Anonymous
09/30/2015 09:32
Subject: Was this racist? I need a reality check.
Why is this racist? A majority of those on "welfare" are white.
Anonymous
09/30/2015 09:29
Subject: Re:Was this racist? I need a reality check.
OK, yeah, I think there really is a lot of fraud in Medicare and Medicaid. But I think it's largely perpetuated by doctors and other healthcare providers, not patients. So how do you want to fix that, OP?
Anonymous
09/30/2015 09:09
Subject: Re:Was this racist? I need a reality check.
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:OP, Sock Puppeting is also a form of fraud. If you want to have a discussion with yourself, please do it elsewhere.
Ha! Any chance you'll identify some of OP's sock puppet responses?
That'd be quite simple, actually. Just look back at the multiple posts with poor comma use.
jsteele
09/30/2015 09:05
Subject: Re:Was this racist? I need a reality check.
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:OP, Sock Puppeting is also a form of fraud. If you want to have a discussion with yourself, please do it elsewhere.
Ha! Any chance you'll identify some of OP's sock puppet responses?
Sure, the sock puppet posts are throughout the thread including the first page, but 09/30/2015 07:45 on this page is one example.
Anonymous
09/30/2015 09:01
Subject: Was this racist? I need a reality check.
No, not racist.
Anonymous
09/30/2015 08:55
Subject: Re:Was this racist? I need a reality check.
jsteele wrote:OP, Sock Puppeting is also a form of fraud. If you want to have a discussion with yourself, please do it elsewhere.
Ha! Any chance you'll identify some of OP's sock puppet responses?
Anonymous
09/30/2015 08:40
Subject: Was this racist? I need a reality check.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It wasn't racist, but your fraud comment wasn't cool either. There's not as much fraud as you think.
Love,
a white person on food stamps
The OP didn't state how much fraud s/he thinks there is. So how would you know?
Also fraud in medicaid and medicare is HUGE. I mean f the OP for wanting to see that money go to people who actually need it.
And it wasn't remotely racist OP but thats kind of how it goes now a days right? Arguments can be won and/or shut down with the cry of "privilege" now.
There are a lot of doctors who are defrauding the system.
Anonymous
09/30/2015 08:30
Subject: Was this racist? I need a reality check.
Anonymous wrote:It wasn't racist, but your fraud comment wasn't cool either. There's not as much fraud as you think.
Love,
a white person on food stamps
Welfare, medicaid and medicare fraud are ENORMOUS. Has nothing to do with race, and there are many people on who legit need the assistance, but don't kid yourself.
jsteele
09/30/2015 07:47
Subject: Re:Was this racist? I need a reality check.
OP, Sock Puppeting is also a form of fraud. If you want to have a discussion with yourself, please do it elsewhere.
Anonymous
09/30/2015 07:46
Subject: Re:Was this racist? I need a reality check.
No, it was not racist at all.
It seems that the standard response these days to anything that differs from one’s beliefs is “You are racist.”
That response is intended to shut down discussion of the topic at hand.
Why? Because the person saying this has no logical retort.
Nothing you said was untrue.
Our system is not working and does need reform. There is fraud - much more than people are willing to acknowledge.
Rest easy, OP. You said nothing wrong.
It seems that the standard response these days to anything that differs from one’s beliefs is “You are racist.”
That response is intended to shut down discussion of the topic at hand.
Why? Because the person saying this has no logical retort.
Nothing you said was untrue.
Our system is not working and does need reform. There is fraud - much more than people are willing to acknowledge.
Rest easy, OP. You said nothing wrong.
Anonymous
09/30/2015 07:45
Subject: Was this racist? I need a reality check.
It's not like OP said there should be no welfare. Sounds like she is looking for a better welfare. But the touchy ass f*ck PC police have to clutch their pearls and cry racism.
Anonymous
09/30/2015 07:39
Subject: Was this racist? I need a reality check.
I have no idea what's wrong with what the OP said. Can someone clearly state it?
I work in the system, and it does need help. But the "fraud" you guys are all talking about in the medical systems (Medicaid and Medicare are very different creatures folks) is mostly committed by the doctors and other medical professionals. Not the recipients. They bill for services never provided. Double bill. And all that.
And most people on what we consider "welfare" programs are white. Not getting the racist thing at all.
I work in the system, and it does need help. But the "fraud" you guys are all talking about in the medical systems (Medicaid and Medicare are very different creatures folks) is mostly committed by the doctors and other medical professionals. Not the recipients. They bill for services never provided. Double bill. And all that.
And most people on what we consider "welfare" programs are white. Not getting the racist thing at all.
Anonymous
09/30/2015 05:25
Subject: Was this racist? I need a reality check.
Anonymous wrote:The funny thing about the fraud thing to me is that in my experience, the perpetrators of the fraud are not reflective of the demographics of those who are entitled to receive benefits. I work with homeless women and children; it is my full time job. They receive many "benefits" that they are entitled to. Nobody is committing fraud, nobody is living large. On the other hand, several of my coworkers, who are paid a good wage, are committing benefit fraud. They claim that they are separated from their husbands or will not identify children's fathers in order to make their incomes look artificially low. One woman, married with one child, husband works and makes a very good living, has a friend who works for WIC so receives free formula/food vouchers. It kills me to see my clients barely surviving while my coworkers are driving nice cars, living in nice homes, dressing well, etc, and receiving the same benefits! And nobody is secretive about it at all. People request days off for WIC appointments and housing inspections, and I know damn well they don't qualify!
OP here. There is no excuse for that. Shame on people for gaming a system that was put in place to help people in a desperate situation.
The whole thing I want is for the "benefits" to actually be beneficial instead of just barely sustaining. One way to do that is if we had more funds for those who need them.
Anonymous
09/30/2015 05:21
Subject: Was this racist? I need a reality check.
Anonymous wrote:The funny thing about the fraud thing to me is that in my experience, the perpetrators of the fraud are not reflective of the demographics of those who are entitled to receive benefits. I work with homeless women and children; it is my full time job. They receive many "benefits" that they are entitled to. Nobody is committing fraud, nobody is living large. On the other hand, several of my coworkers, who are paid a good wage, are committing benefit fraud. They claim that they are separated from their husbands or will not identify children's fathers in order to make their incomes look artificially low. One woman, married with one child, husband works and makes a very good living, has a friend who works for WIC so receives free formula/food vouchers. It kills me to see my clients barely surviving while my coworkers are driving nice cars, living in nice homes, dressing well, etc, and receiving the same benefits! And nobody is secretive about it at all. People request days off for WIC appointments and housing inspections, and I know damn well they don't qualify!
Oh that makes my blood boil. See we need a better system.
Anonymous
09/30/2015 05:16
Subject: Was this racist? I need a reality check.
The funny thing about the fraud thing to me is that in my experience, the perpetrators of the fraud are not reflective of the demographics of those who are entitled to receive benefits. I work with homeless women and children; it is my full time job. They receive many "benefits" that they are entitled to. Nobody is committing fraud, nobody is living large. On the other hand, several of my coworkers, who are paid a good wage, are committing benefit fraud. They claim that they are separated from their husbands or will not identify children's fathers in order to make their incomes look artificially low. One woman, married with one child, husband works and makes a very good living, has a friend who works for WIC so receives free formula/food vouchers. It kills me to see my clients barely surviving while my coworkers are driving nice cars, living in nice homes, dressing well, etc, and receiving the same benefits! And nobody is secretive about it at all. People request days off for WIC appointments and housing inspections, and I know damn well they don't qualify!