Anonymous
08/31/2015 21:40
Subject: Anti-Indian sentiment on DCUM
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Indian woman here who has not experienced this in real life BUT I also have had a really hard time making friends with the white parents of my DD's friends. I don't know if perhaps an unarticulated anti-Indian sentiment is the reason or if there's just something wrong with me (never had trouble making friends before though).
I think it has more to do with the cultural differences, mode of conversation, areas of interest, aspects of humor, etc which are different when it comes to Americans versus Indians or, for that matter, some other foreign group.
I can relate to some of what you say but OTOH my children are, if anything, more comfortable with Americans than they are with Indians. In fact, they are actually uncomfortable with some who have recently arrived from England.
Depends -- if PP grew up in India and just came here for marriage 5 yrs ago, I tend to agree with you. If she was born and raised in Rochester NY to Indian parents, I tend to think her modes of conversation, interests, and humor are no different than any white woman in her 30s.
Anonymous
08/31/2015 21:30
Subject: Anti-Indian sentiment on DCUM
Anonymous wrote:Indian woman here who has not experienced this in real life BUT I also have had a really hard time making friends with the white parents of my DD's friends. I don't know if perhaps an unarticulated anti-Indian sentiment is the reason or if there's just something wrong with me (never had trouble making friends before though).
I think it has more to do with the cultural differences, mode of conversation, areas of interest, aspects of humor, etc which are different when it comes to Americans versus Indians or, for that matter, some other foreign group.
I can relate to some of what you say but OTOH my children are, if anything, more comfortable with Americans than they are with Indians. In fact, they are actually uncomfortable with some who have recently arrived from England.
Anonymous
08/31/2015 21:29
Subject: Anti-Indian sentiment on DCUM
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm Indian -- born and raised in the U.S. -- and I've said it on other threads, I hate the first gen Indians coming over in the 2000s. I won't get into every detail why, but they are bringing over their ass backwards way of thinking and their superiority complexes and arrogance and they won't even attempt to tone it down or realize that such traits aren't looked upon favorably.
I avoid them.
I posted just before and I totally agree. What the hell is going on in India these days? My parents' generation was much more modest, grounded, cultured and interesting. India is just gross now.
Same thing is happening in Korea and China. It's the "nouveau riche" disease.
Exactly. Inject luxury goods into any culture that hasn't had them before AND is already obsessed with social class/who is ahead or behind of who -- and you get noveau riche disease bc it is much easier to show off your designer bag than to open your checkbook and show people your bank balance. Though I've always said -- if it was socially acceptable to show people your bank balance, most people at an Indian party would do it. Alas it isn't so you can talk incessantly about your Mercedes and put down whoever came in a Honda.
Anonymous
08/31/2015 21:27
Subject: Anti-Indian sentiment on DCUM
Anonymous wrote:Indian woman here who has not experienced this in real life BUT I also have had a really hard time making friends with the white parents of my DD's friends. I don't know if perhaps an unarticulated anti-Indian sentiment is the reason or if there's just something wrong with me (never had trouble making friends before though).
They may be assuming things about you. I'm Indian and I know lots of Indians ONLY hang out with other Indians socially, on weekends etc -- esp first gen Indians. If you're trying to talk with your DD's friends' parents -- they may be assuming you're being nice but you wouldn't be interested in ever getting together because you have a dawat every weekend or you have your inlaws living with you or you only socialize with family or whatever.
Anonymous
08/31/2015 21:08
Subject: Anti-Indian sentiment on DCUM
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm Indian -- born and raised in the U.S. -- and I've said it on other threads, I hate the first gen Indians coming over in the 2000s. I won't get into every detail why, but they are bringing over their ass backwards way of thinking and their superiority complexes and arrogance and they won't even attempt to tone it down or realize that such traits aren't looked upon favorably.
I avoid them.
I posted just before and I totally agree. What the hell is going on in India these days? My parents' generation was much more modest, grounded, cultured and interesting. India is just gross now.
Same thing is happening in Korea and China. It's the "nouveau riche" disease.
Anonymous
08/31/2015 21:06
Subject: Anti-Indian sentiment on DCUM
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just find them soooooooo annoying. I am white married to an Indian guy.
You've posted similar statements before. Every, single time I feel so sorry for your half Indian children who will face the same discrimination and prejudices from society and their own mother.
Umm I've never posted on here about thisWhy can't I have an opinion? I've been to India 5 times. I stayed for a month each time, spending time in Mumbai, Goa, Delhi, and several other places on my way to the lower reaches of the Himalayas. For all I know my kids will turn out damaged and horribly behaving adults. You never know.
The trait I have seen SO often— unabashed arrogance, their need to command center stage, to talk endlessly, to constantly interrupt, all from the beginning of an encounter to the end of an encounter. Indians rarely dialogue, they monologue. It is hard not to conclude that they see themselves as special, better, more knowledgeable about anything and everything than the person they find themselves with. I invariably come away from such conversations—if they can be called that—thinking of Indians as simply insufferable. And yet while I don’t why they are this way, I suspect it is very much bound up with India’s long rigid caste system, one in which privilege and the sense of entitlement and so much more have been determined by position in a stifling class hierarchy as formal and determining as any the world has ever known.
Can all Indians be characterized as I have drawn attention to them here? Certainly not. But, then, it is not without reason that Indians and Koreans and Americans and Jews and Arabs and Russians are often stereotyped. They are stereotyped because more often than not through experience we come to expect them to act in particular ways, and more often than not we are not disappointed.
Dear god I feel so sorry for your poor husband. Or is he as much of an asshole as you are?
Anonymous
08/31/2015 21:04
Subject: Anti-Indian sentiment on DCUM
Indian woman here who has not experienced this in real life BUT I also have had a really hard time making friends with the white parents of my DD's friends. I don't know if perhaps an unarticulated anti-Indian sentiment is the reason or if there's just something wrong with me (never had trouble making friends before though).
Anonymous
08/31/2015 20:44
Subject: Anti-Indian sentiment on DCUM
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:None of this shit is getting anyone into TJ.
What does TJ stand for?
troll - everyone know what TJ is.
Anonymous
08/31/2015 19:52
Subject: Anti-Indian sentiment on DCUM
Anonymous wrote:I think Indians are the next intellectuals who will save our country from those who have been here for more than two generations. I am highly pro-Indian.
What about Latinos?
Anonymous
08/31/2015 19:40
Subject: Anti-Indian sentiment on DCUM
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm Indian -- born and raised in the U.S. -- and I've said it on other threads, I hate the first gen Indians coming over in the 2000s. I won't get into every detail why, but they are bringing over their ass backwards way of thinking and their superiority complexes and arrogance and they won't even attempt to tone it down or realize that such traits aren't looked upon favorably.
I avoid them.
I posted just before and I totally agree. What the hell is going on in India these days? My parents' generation was much more modest, grounded, cultured and interesting. India is just gross now.
Lots is going on -- but I think there is materialism like never before; brand name clothing, shoes, cars and the ability to buy it all on credit - didn't exist 20 or 40 yrs ago. You hand those things to people who've never had it before and who are naturally materialistic and it's a recipe for gross behavior and gives them yet another reason to tout their own success and look down at others.
Like I said -- can't stand them and I avoid them.
Anonymous
08/31/2015 19:35
Subject: Anti-Indian sentiment on DCUM
Anonymous wrote:I'm Indian -- born and raised in the U.S. -- and I've said it on other threads, I hate the first gen Indians coming over in the 2000s. I won't get into every detail why, but they are bringing over their ass backwards way of thinking and their superiority complexes and arrogance and they won't even attempt to tone it down or realize that such traits aren't looked upon favorably.
I avoid them.
I posted just before and I totally agree. What the hell is going on in India these days? My parents' generation was much more modest, grounded, cultured and interesting. India is just gross now.
Anonymous
08/31/2015 19:08
Subject: Anti-Indian sentiment on DCUM
I'm Indian -- born and raised in the U.S. -- and I've said it on other threads, I hate the first gen Indians coming over in the 2000s. I won't get into every detail why, but they are bringing over their ass backwards way of thinking and their superiority complexes and arrogance and they won't even attempt to tone it down or realize that such traits aren't looked upon favorably.
I avoid them.
I avoid them.
Anonymous
08/31/2015 18:22
Subject: Re:Anti-Indian sentiment on DCUM
I was born in India, bred in America and based on my experiences just about every post here has an element of truth (we're dealing with 1.2 billion people, after all):
- Indians do, generally, feel superior to others -- this is growing with India's economic growth and the phenomenal success of the Indian diaspora (which obviously tended toward the cream in the 60's,70's, less so with immigrants sponsored by family members).
- India is a horrible place to visit -- filthy, classist, sexist, no sense of law and order. You WILL get sick when you visit.
- India was civilized and cultured when Europe was in the dark ages; incredibly rich poetry, literature, art, textiles, etc.
- Indians are status/wealth obsessed -- Laxshmi is the goddess of wealth and worldly success is worshipped and a sign of divine reward; monotheistic religions tend to focus more on the afterlife (other than Judaism).
- Indians do tend to look down on white women who've married Indian men; they're seen as not being good enough to have gotten a white man (colonial brainwashing/insecurity showing up).
- Indians are incredibly hospitable and generous with guests and family and are appalled by what they see as the lack of family bonding and hospitality in America.
- Some white people feel uncomfortable when brown people are confident.
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- Indians do, generally, feel superior to others -- this is growing with India's economic growth and the phenomenal success of the Indian diaspora (which obviously tended toward the cream in the 60's,70's, less so with immigrants sponsored by family members).
- India is a horrible place to visit -- filthy, classist, sexist, no sense of law and order. You WILL get sick when you visit.
- India was civilized and cultured when Europe was in the dark ages; incredibly rich poetry, literature, art, textiles, etc.
- Indians are status/wealth obsessed -- Laxshmi is the goddess of wealth and worldly success is worshipped and a sign of divine reward; monotheistic religions tend to focus more on the afterlife (other than Judaism).
- Indians do tend to look down on white women who've married Indian men; they're seen as not being good enough to have gotten a white man (colonial brainwashing/insecurity showing up).
- Indians are incredibly hospitable and generous with guests and family and are appalled by what they see as the lack of family bonding and hospitality in America.
- Some white people feel uncomfortable when brown people are confident.
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Anonymous
08/31/2015 18:06
Subject: Re:Anti-Indian sentiment on DCUM
Anonymous wrote:I don't like going to Indian owned convenience stores. The family usually runs them and they stare. No smile, no thank you, look at you like you're a thief.
Other than that, I have no interaction with them.
Really? I find the Indian people I meet to be some of the warmest folk!
Anonymous
08/31/2015 17:13
Subject: Re:Anti-Indian sentiment on DCUM
I have interacted with students of many different nationalities over the years, and it seems to me that Indian and some Pakistani boys are especially spoiled compared to other boys and Indian girls. They were very class conscious and extremely reluctant to engage in any activities that they consider below them. I do feel sorry for Indian women married to Indian men who end up having to work and the. also take care of both their own family and their extended families. It must be a very heavy burden to bear.