Anonymous
Post 08/17/2015 11:41     Subject: Marriage
Anonymous wrote:

With the case of my exH here were all the benefits he received:
1) Free household cleaning (with the exception of him doing laundry and dishes).
2) Free yard work (he never did any yard work)
3) Sex (which quickly dwindled the more often he reminded me that he made more and therefore did not have to do anything around the house and what a horrible Mother I was.)
4) Time to go to the gym while I played with our child (and he never returned the favor to me)
5) Didn't pay a single childcare expense (because he convinced me this was a fair trade for him paying the other bills, would be true if he didn't make 3x what I did)

Anyway, can you see why he is single now?


You chose him.
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2015 11:40     Subject: Marriage
Anonymous wrote:
Then why does the standard of living for women go down after divorce, whereas for men it goes up?


Because men age like fine wine while women age like milk.
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2015 11:37     Subject: Marriage
Anonymous wrote:I worked for a family law firm, and seeing almost every single fucking one of the women in these relationships be the ones who got fucked over


How so? Please provide specific examples with detail. No one forced these women to marry anyone.
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2015 10:33     Subject: Marriage
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At times it seems to me that marriage is a grand scheme, a ruse designed to use women to benefit men. I truly see way more advantages for men than for women in the institution of marriage.


Allright ladies, clueless husband here. I would genuinely appreciate some explanation of how I have the better deal in marriage. Please be specific because I would like to know why you believe this, but so far this thread has been entirely flame bait without any actual intelligent points to support the OP's position.


With the case of my exH here were all the benefits he received:
1) Free household cleaning (with the exception of him doing laundry and dishes).
2) Free yard work (he never did any yard work)
3) Sex (which quickly dwindled the more often he reminded me that he made more and therefore did not have to do anything around the house and what a horrible Mother I was.)
4) Time to go to the gym while I played with our child (and he never returned the favor to me)
5) Didn't pay a single childcare expense (because he convinced me this was a fair trade for him paying the other bills, would be true if he didn't make 3x what I did)

Anyway, can you see why he is single now?


No I do not see why he is single.
Every family has a different arrangement. It sounds like you agreed to stay home with the children in exchange for him being the earner.
At some point this stopped working for you both and made you both resentful but you still both benefited from each other's sacrifices.


PP here, sorry I misread I thought you said you provided the childcare. So you paid for it in exchange for him paying for all the other bills.
You still had an agreement that you actively chose that at some point this stopped working for you both and made you both resentful. You still both benefited from each other's sacrifices.
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2015 10:29     Subject: Marriage
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At times it seems to me that marriage is a grand scheme, a ruse designed to use women to benefit men. I truly see way more advantages for men than for women in the institution of marriage.


Allright ladies, clueless husband here. I would genuinely appreciate some explanation of how I have the better deal in marriage. Please be specific because I would like to know why you believe this, but so far this thread has been entirely flame bait without any actual intelligent points to support the OP's position.


With the case of my exH here were all the benefits he received:
1) Free household cleaning (with the exception of him doing laundry and dishes).
2) Free yard work (he never did any yard work)
3) Sex (which quickly dwindled the more often he reminded me that he made more and therefore did not have to do anything around the house and what a horrible Mother I was.)
4) Time to go to the gym while I played with our child (and he never returned the favor to me)
5) Didn't pay a single childcare expense (because he convinced me this was a fair trade for him paying the other bills, would be true if he didn't make 3x what I did)

Anyway, can you see why he is single now?


Most men don't care about these things. Women think that chores are value added. Most bachelors who live alone only make their bed when they expect company. They clean to conform to female expectations and desire for nice looking house. We just want sex and Sportscenter.
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2015 10:13     Subject: Marriage
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At times it seems to me that marriage is a grand scheme, a ruse designed to use women to benefit men. I truly see way more advantages for men than for women in the institution of marriage.


Allright ladies, clueless husband here. I would genuinely appreciate some explanation of how I have the better deal in marriage. Please be specific because I would like to know why you believe this, but so far this thread has been entirely flame bait without any actual intelligent points to support the OP's position.


With the case of my exH here were all the benefits he received:
1) Free household cleaning (with the exception of him doing laundry and dishes).
2) Free yard work (he never did any yard work)
3) Sex (which quickly dwindled the more often he reminded me that he made more and therefore did not have to do anything around the house and what a horrible Mother I was.)
4) Time to go to the gym while I played with our child (and he never returned the favor to me)
5) Didn't pay a single childcare expense (because he convinced me this was a fair trade for him paying the other bills, would be true if he didn't make 3x what I did)

Anyway, can you see why he is single now?


No I do not see why he is single.
Every family has a different arrangement. It sounds like you agreed to stay home with the children in exchange for him being the earner.
At some point this stopped working for you both and made you both resentful but you still both benefited from each other's sacrifices.
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2015 10:06     Subject: Marriage
Whose fault was it that he was making 3x you? Stop blaming other people for your problems.
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2015 09:09     Subject: Marriage
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At times it seems to me that marriage is a grand scheme, a ruse designed to use women to benefit men. I truly see way more advantages for men than for women in the institution of marriage.


Allright ladies, clueless husband here. I would genuinely appreciate some explanation of how I have the better deal in marriage. Please be specific because I would like to know why you believe this, but so far this thread has been entirely flame bait without any actual intelligent points to support the OP's position.


With the case of my exH here were all the benefits he received:
1) Free household cleaning (with the exception of him doing laundry and dishes).
2) Free yard work (he never did any yard work)
3) Sex (which quickly dwindled the more often he reminded me that he made more and therefore did not have to do anything around the house and what a horrible Mother I was.)
4) Time to go to the gym while I played with our child (and he never returned the favor to me)
5) Didn't pay a single childcare expense (because he convinced me this was a fair trade for him paying the other bills, would be true if he didn't make 3x what I did)

Anyway, can you see why he is single now?
TheNewGirl
Post 08/17/2015 08:27     Subject: Marriage
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Anonymous
Post 08/17/2015 08:13     Subject: Marriage
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At times it seems to me that marriage is a grand scheme, a ruse designed to use women to benefit men. I truly see way more advantages for men than for women in the institution of marriage.


Allright ladies, clueless husband here. I would genuinely appreciate some explanation of how I have the better deal in marriage. Please be specific because I would like to know why you believe this, but so far this thread has been entirely flame bait without any actual intelligent points to support the OP's position.


Clueless wife here. I don't feel this way at all. I feel part of a team and I'm grateful for it. We both benefit from eachother equally. I wouldn't have the opportunity to be the mother that I am without the sacrifices he makes. He's a fantastic father to our children as well. There would be a huge void in their lives without him.
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2015 07:16     Subject: Marriage
Anonymous wrote:At times it seems to me that marriage is a grand scheme, a ruse designed to use women to benefit men. I truly see way more advantages for men than for women in the institution of marriage.


Allright ladies, clueless husband here. I would genuinely appreciate some explanation of how I have the better deal in marriage. Please be specific because I would like to know why you believe this, but so far this thread has been entirely flame bait without any actual intelligent points to support the OP's position.
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2015 06:10     Subject: Marriage
Anonymous wrote:Probably because many divorced women have unrealistic expectations that their alimony and child support should act as total replacement for their marital lifestyle. But if they can't find a new man to latch onto, it's frequently insufficient.


Alot of states are modernizing the concept of "alimony" to eliminate lifetime spousal support. Barring some extreme condition, no woman should live forever supported by her ex husband, without even getting a job herself. It's not the 1900s, women can get jobs too and support themselves. Thank god the laws are fixing this defect.

Child support is a different matter entirely. Obviously the children need ongoing support until they reach adulthood. But in situations of 50/50 custody, I see no major reason why one parent should make large payments to the other, when already the time and costs of parenting are being split equally.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2015 18:29     Subject: Marriage
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At times it seems to me that marriage is a grand scheme, a ruse designed to use women to benefit men. I truly see way more advantages for men than for women in the institution of marriage.


Of course it is.

On the other hand, divorce is the ruse designed to use men to benefit women, so at least there's a balance.


Then why does the standard of living for women go down after divorce, whereas for men it goes up?


Because the income increases for women starts to plateau and decrease after having children, whereas for men it continues to grow. Thus men, are earning more after children than women and have a higher income, overall.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2015 18:25     Subject: Marriage
Probably because many divorced women have unrealistic expectations that their alimony and child support should act as total replacement for their marital lifestyle. But if they can't find a new man to latch onto, it's frequently insufficient.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2015 18:13     Subject: Marriage
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At times it seems to me that marriage is a grand scheme, a ruse designed to use women to benefit men. I truly see way more advantages for men than for women in the institution of marriage.


Of course it is.

On the other hand, divorce is the ruse designed to use men to benefit women, so at least there's a balance.


Then why does the standard of living for women go down after divorce, whereas for men it goes up?