Anonymous
09/07/2015 15:35
Subject: How much percentage of AAP kids go to TJ and how much of non AAP?
Carson also had a 100% pass rate on the SOLs last year in Algebra, Geometry & Algebra II (and many non-AAP kids will take at least Algebra). So they are doing something very right in terms of math education.
Anonymous
09/07/2015 15:29
Subject: How much percentage of AAP kids go to TJ and how much of non AAP?
^^also, note that Carson & Rocky Run are almost 2/3 AAP. Longfellow is more than 1/2.
Anonymous
09/07/2015 15:24
Subject: How much percentage of AAP kids go to TJ and how much of non AAP?
In the last admission cycle:
Carson. 88
Longfellow 66
Rock Run 45
So these three Middle Scool Centers account for half of FCPS's TJ admits. And Carson alone is 20-25%. So yes, apparently AAP matters.
Carson. 88
Longfellow 66
Rock Run 45
So these three Middle Scool Centers account for half of FCPS's TJ admits. And Carson alone is 20-25%. So yes, apparently AAP matters.
Anonymous
09/07/2015 13:23
Subject: Re:How much percentage of AAP kids go to TJ and how much of non AAP?
Anonymous wrote:So are kids who are non-AAP at a disadvantage. My son recently told us that he wanted to go to TJ for sometime now.
Would huim not being in AAP hurt his application. He is going into Geometry this year.
let’s look at it this way. An AAP centre like Rachel Carson will get 65-70 kids into TJ each year.
A nearby MS, like Franklin (with open “honours” no less) will get in 3,
So does that tell you what you want to know?
Anonymous
09/07/2015 13:16
Subject: Re:How much percentage of AAP kids go to TJ and how much of non AAP?
So are kids who are non-AAP at a disadvantage. My son recently told us that he wanted to go to TJ for sometime now.
Would huim not being in AAP hurt his application. He is going into Geometry this year.
Would huim not being in AAP hurt his application. He is going into Geometry this year.
Anonymous
08/25/2015 08:35
Subject: Re:How much percentage of AAP kids go to TJ and how much of non AAP?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Gen-Ed students have taken compacted math in many schools for years.
In theory, compacted math is supposed to be available for every elementary student in FCPS that qualifies.
In practice, there are many schools who have so few kids who qualify that it is difficult to make it happen. At our base school, "compacted math" was a 2 days a week pullout that didn't happen half the time because of various conflicts.
It was like this at DC's center school - only level IV AAP received full time advanced math. I complained, and complained, and complained some more. At first I was told that GEN ED students couldn't be in the same class as level IV AAP. I couldn't understand why, since they would be in the same math in middle school if the students qualified. I also asked how they were complying with the mandate that all students have access to advanced math - that includes being on track to take the 7th grade SOL in 6th grade to qualify for algebra. DC was provided fulltime advanced services with his class (gen Ed) where they grouped the kids throughout by ability. Starting the next year, the center school grouped all the students - AAP and GEN ED together by ability. DC is in a class with mostly Level IV AAP students. Some of the Level IV AAP students who are not strong in math are in the lower groups.
How did you complain to get changes made? Letters? Conference?
Anonymous
08/17/2015 13:53
Subject: Re:How much percentage of AAP kids go to TJ and how much of non AAP?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My Son just got admission to TJ. We know lot of kids who are in TJ and who have finished TJ and working etc. Here is my take on it.
TJ is a fantastic school with lot of opportunities to do Research and technology which is not available in other schools. It has lot to offer. Student should be intelligent and very hard working in order to enjoy at TJ. They have lot of sports activities also. It is the No.1 STEM school in the Nation for a reason. But lot of parents wants kids to join the school and they don't want kids to work hard. You can't have both. You cannot join the best school without working hard. You should join TJ because of what facilities it offers to do research, courses it offers that is not available in other schools and the friends you make there. Once you learn all the things it offers you will be successful in life no matter what college you go and you will get a fantastic job. I have seen lot of kids out of TJ getting scholarships to colleges and doing really really well after college.
Not #1 anymore...
Number 1 high school in the country by Newsweek.
Anonymous
08/17/2015 13:42
Subject: Re:How much percentage of AAP kids go to TJ and how much of non AAP?
Anonymous wrote:My Son just got admission to TJ. We know lot of kids who are in TJ and who have finished TJ and working etc. Here is my take on it.
TJ is a fantastic school with lot of opportunities to do Research and technology which is not available in other schools. It has lot to offer. Student should be intelligent and very hard working in order to enjoy at TJ. They have lot of sports activities also. It is the No.1 STEM school in the Nation for a reason. But lot of parents wants kids to join the school and they don't want kids to work hard. You can't have both. You cannot join the best school without working hard. You should join TJ because of what facilities it offers to do research, courses it offers that is not available in other schools and the friends you make there. Once you learn all the things it offers you will be successful in life no matter what college you go and you will get a fantastic job. I have seen lot of kids out of TJ getting scholarships to colleges and doing really really well after college.
Not #1 anymore...
Anonymous
08/15/2015 13:51
Subject: Re:How much percentage of AAP kids go to TJ and how much of non AAP?
Anonymous wrote:Gen-Ed students have taken compacted math in many schools for years.
In theory, compacted math is supposed to be available for every elementary student in FCPS that qualifies.
In practice, there are many schools who have so few kids who qualify that it is difficult to make it happen. At our base school, "compacted math" was a 2 days a week pullout that didn't happen half the time because of various conflicts.
It was like this at DC's center school - only level IV AAP received full time advanced math. I complained, and complained, and complained some more. At first I was told that GEN ED students couldn't be in the same class as level IV AAP. I couldn't understand why, since they would be in the same math in middle school if the students qualified. I also asked how they were complying with the mandate that all students have access to advanced math - that includes being on track to take the 7th grade SOL in 6th grade to qualify for algebra. DC was provided fulltime advanced services with his class (gen Ed) where they grouped the kids throughout by ability. Starting the next year, the center school grouped all the students - AAP and GEN ED together by ability. DC is in a class with mostly Level IV AAP students. Some of the Level IV AAP students who are not strong in math are in the lower groups.
Anonymous
08/15/2015 12:56
Subject: Re:How much percentage of AAP kids go to TJ and how much of non AAP?
Anonymous wrote:In some areas of the county, parents aren't really pushing for things like this and principals are happy not to spend money on an AART or other math teacher to teach it.
+1
Site-based management wins, no matter what the parents demand of FCPS (or central office states is a requirement, such as advanced math at all elementary schools).
Anonymous
08/15/2015 11:14
Subject: Re:How much percentage of AAP kids go to TJ and how much of non AAP?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fact that AAP kids seem to get into TJ in greater numbers has nothing to do with AAP. These kids were already off-the-charts bright and if AAP went away tomorrow, most of them would still get in.
And AAP tracks to compacted math/ Algebra in 7th, which doesn't hurt on the entrance exams.
My Gen Ed kids took Honors Algebra in 7th, so what?
Coming out of lots of ESs that's not possible/ very difficult because you have to pass advanced 7th grade math. Gen Ed kids usually get 6th, although I'm sure there are exceptions.
Many ESs now offer compacted math to kids not in AAP. In those schools, the kids who successfully complete compacted math finish ES at the same math level as AAP kids. AAP kids and Gen Ed kids who have completed compacted math must still test at certain benchmarks to take Hn Algebra 1 in 7th grade.
Gen-Ed students have taken compacted math in many schools for years. My eldest is about to start college took compacted math in ES and it wasn't a new thing.
The county has been very un-equal in this -- so you should count yourself and your children lucky. I know for a fact, that until last fall, my kids' ES (non center/non Level4) was the only school in our pyramid that offered 3rd-6th adv. math. There was one other ES that offered it in 6th grade only. I believe, starting last fall that school and one other school now offer 3rd -6th adv. math. I think there is at least one other ES that does not offer it at all.
I don't think it's a matter of kids "qualifying" for it. B/c really, there are capable children in every school. It's a matter of priorities. In some areas of the county, parents aren't really pushing for things like this and principals are happy not to spend money on an AART or other math teacher to teach it.
Anonymous
08/15/2015 09:08
Subject: Re:How much percentage of AAP kids go to TJ and how much of non AAP?
Gen-Ed students have taken compacted math in many schools for years.
In theory, compacted math is supposed to be available for every elementary student in FCPS that qualifies.
In practice, there are many schools who have so few kids who qualify that it is difficult to make it happen. At our base school, "compacted math" was a 2 days a week pullout that didn't happen half the time because of various conflicts.
Anonymous
08/14/2015 22:10
Subject: Re:How much percentage of AAP kids go to TJ and how much of non AAP?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fact that AAP kids seem to get into TJ in greater numbers has nothing to do with AAP. These kids were already off-the-charts bright and if AAP went away tomorrow, most of them would still get in.
And AAP tracks to compacted math/ Algebra in 7th, which doesn't hurt on the entrance exams.
My Gen Ed kids took Honors Algebra in 7th, so what?
Coming out of lots of ESs that's not possible/ very difficult because you have to pass advanced 7th grade math. Gen Ed kids usually get 6th, although I'm sure there are exceptions.
Many ESs now offer compacted math to kids not in AAP. In those schools, the kids who successfully complete compacted math finish ES at the same math level as AAP kids. AAP kids and Gen Ed kids who have completed compacted math must still test at certain benchmarks to take Hn Algebra 1 in 7th grade.
Gen-Ed students have taken compacted math in many schools for years. My eldest is about to start college took compacted math in ES and it wasn't a new thing.
And back then,. they had to pass the 8th grade SOL to gain access to 7th Grade Algebra Honors (in addition to the Iowa score).
Anonymous
08/14/2015 22:08
Subject: Re:How much percentage of AAP kids go to TJ and how much of non AAP?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fact that AAP kids seem to get into TJ in greater numbers has nothing to do with AAP. These kids were already off-the-charts bright and if AAP went away tomorrow, most of them would still get in.
And AAP tracks to compacted math/ Algebra in 7th, which doesn't hurt on the entrance exams.
My Gen Ed kids took Honors Algebra in 7th, so what?
Coming out of lots of ESs that's not possible/ very difficult because you have to pass advanced 7th grade math. Gen Ed kids usually get 6th, although I'm sure there are exceptions.
Many ESs now offer compacted math to kids not in AAP. In those schools, the kids who successfully complete compacted math finish ES at the same math level as AAP kids. AAP kids and Gen Ed kids who have completed compacted math must still test at certain benchmarks to take Hn Algebra 1 in 7th grade.
Gen-Ed students have taken compacted math in many schools for years. My eldest is about to start college took compacted math in ES and it wasn't a new thing.