Anonymous
Post 06/27/2015 02:27     Subject: Disagreement with my husband
My FIL was not cut as a child, and had to get cut as an adult due to severe and reoccurring urinary tract infections. He told my spouse some very icky details about not being cut that are TMI in extreme. He is a very clean and intelligent man,btw.

Our 3rd son suffered a small rip in his circ and had bleeding that was hard to stop. It was terrifying. I'd still get any male child cut.

Having a penis doesn't give fathers more right to choose for their son. You carry this child and birth him.

Is your spouse cut? If he is, why does he object to your son being cut?
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2015 12:01     Subject: Disagreement with my husband
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Circumcision is barbaric. Please don't mutilate your son by removing the most functional and sensitive part of his sex organ. Consider if you were removing the inner labia of your daughter because it might be "cleaner".


Haha oh please. I thank my lucky stars that my parents chose to circumcise me when I was a baby (so I couldn't remember it).

I've had multiple friends who did it in their early 20's because they were self-conscious about it for aesthetic reasons (and these weren't guys who lacked overall confidence or had any problem attracting ladies). I did not envy their pain and recovery period, but I do know they don't regret their decision to circumcise later in life.


Another man here. I call bullshit.


PP here...not sure why this is so hard to believe? It was three brothers, all from the same family, all decided in their twenties to do this at the same time.

I'm friends with all three--hence multiple friends.


What?
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2015 11:57     Subject: Disagreement with my husband
Anonymous wrote:I agree with 18:41. This is an optional, cosmetic surgery. If your spouse is against it, do not do it. The foreskin can always be removed later in life. If you remove it now, it cannot be repaired. I was opposed to circumcision and NOTHING my spouse could say would sway me, because all the arguments for it did not seem convincing to me.


This. It doesn't matter who changes the diapers or who has the penis. Whoever wants optional surgery for the child should not be able to force it on the spouse who does not. FWIW, I circumcised my son and we BOTH agreed.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2015 11:55     Subject: Re:Disagreement with my husband
Anonymous wrote:Oh! This one.

Your child isn't going to "look like" your husband until he is well into his teens (unless you are Greek or something. I'm Italian, no hate.) That said. This isn't your husbands decision! You are the one growing this penis, are you going to take a bit of ownership about cutting some of it off?

I did. I have two boys, I circumcised both of them. I live in a place where that is simply what one does. And you know what? I'm okay with that.

I shave my legs. I have pierced ears. My boys wear short hair, my girls, long hair (though thats recent), she also adorns earrings. I like cultural norms. And to those who call it barbaric? do you ……put orthodontics on your children? pierce their ears? Do you monitor their diets? Against their wills, perhaps? Do you immunize them? Shoot them full of chemicals containing all sorts of disease? (I do that too….but work with me here). IF you do those things you are disregarding the autonomy of your child. So you've already crossed the line. I just crossed it farther to conform with the 90% rate of white boys in my area who are circumcised.

As a woman who grew up in this area (not proud) the first time I encountered an uncut one I was………………24? He was Australian. I admit that after he flew me out to Arizona and we…..did all that stuff I was having flash backs to a Marty Stauffer video about wild pigs. I didn't like it. I'm not proud to say that but when he wanted to move me to Australia I said no, because of ….well, I just wasn't used to those bits. Had it been the norm I'm sure we may have had a smashing life in Aus. But. Cultural norms. THey matter. And LADIES. THey aren't "UP TO DADDY". That is so weird. MAke an informed decision. My last 2 were performed my a mohel because they were home births…even though we aren't jewish. I'd rather do that then go to the hospital after a calm birth ~ so , yes, I saw it,and yes, it was okay,and yes, I stand by my decision.



Wow! That's a lot of sharing.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2015 11:46     Subject: Disagreement with my husband
Anonymous wrote:Oh the Midwest...not a surprise.


It's only slightly lower in the South and East, which encompasses DC. And along racial lines those areas are almost identical to the Midwest.

The only area of the county that is dramatically different is the West.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2015 11:31     Subject: Disagreement with my husband
Oh the Midwest...not a surprise.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2015 10:23     Subject: Re:Disagreement with my husband
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:(OP here) At least one of my comments get deleted and idk why? I don't feel like typing it up again but I basically said that boys now a days are still almost always circumcised as far as I knew and from what I've seen changing diapers at day care, just about every boy is cut, and if my son isn't circumcisied he'll be the odd one out


Circumcision may not be as prevalent as you think.

Overall from 1999 to 2010, the CDC’s weighted analysis found that the approximate percentage of newborn US males who were circumcised was approximately 59.1% according to the NHDS, 57.8% according to the NIS, and 55.8% according to the CDM. The incidence of newborn male circumcision decreased over time in all 3 data sources: from 62.5% in 1999 to 56.9% in 2008
according to the NHDS; from 63.5% in 1999 to 56.3% in 2008 according to the NIS; and from 58.4% in 2001 to
54.7% in 2010 according to the CDM. (analysis only included data taken from hospitals.)


Broad statistics like this tell only a piece of the story. The changing demographics in certain areas of the country have a greater effect on the overall stats than changing attitudes among those groups who have routinely circumcised. Circumcision among whites is still well into the 60%'s nationwide, and the overall rate in the midwest is still pushing 80%. The lowest rate of circumcision is among Hispanics, and geographically it's in the West (notice the correlation). Additionally, it's the lowest in 18 States where it's not covered by medicaid, and 24% higher in States where it's covered. So a good chunk of these decisions are simply financial, not ethical. And since stats only report newborn circumcision at the birth hospital, circumcisions performed more cheaply later, uninsured, are not reflected.

Bottom line is that many would like you to believe that all the upper/middle class white boys are going to be sporting turtle necks soon, when it's not nearly as prevalent among certain groups as they portray.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2015 08:47     Subject: Disagreement with my husband
I am not circumcised. We had our three sons circumcised, although our Dr. advised against it. If I knew then, what I know now, I would probably have been against it.

Anonymous
Post 06/26/2015 08:26     Subject: Disagreement with my husband
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Circumcision is barbaric. Please don't mutilate your son by removing the most functional and sensitive part of his sex organ. Consider if you were removing the inner labia of your daughter because it might be "cleaner".


Haha oh please. I thank my lucky stars that my parents chose to circumcise me when I was a baby (so I couldn't remember it).

I've had multiple friends who did it in their early 20's because they were self-conscious about it for aesthetic reasons (and these weren't guys who lacked overall confidence or had any problem attracting ladies). I did not envy their pain and recovery period, but I do know they don't regret their decision to circumcise later in life.


Another man here. I call bullshit.


PP here...not sure why this is so hard to believe? It was three brothers, all from the same family, all decided in their twenties to do this at the same time.

I'm friends with all three--hence multiple friends.


Poster above...I'm not trying to sway the debate either way. Like the poster above me, just providing another data point.

And also pointing out, that I never thought my parents decision to circumcise me was barbaric. I'm very happy they did it for aesthetic reasons.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2015 08:14     Subject: Disagreement with my husband
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Circumcision is barbaric. Please don't mutilate your son by removing the most functional and sensitive part of his sex organ. Consider if you were removing the inner labia of your daughter because it might be "cleaner".


Haha oh please. I thank my lucky stars that my parents chose to circumcise me when I was a baby (so I couldn't remember it).

I've had multiple friends who did it in their early 20's because they were self-conscious about it for aesthetic reasons (and these weren't guys who lacked overall confidence or had any problem attracting ladies). I did not envy their pain and recovery period, but I do know they don't regret their decision to circumcise later in life.


Another man here. I call bullshit.


PP here...not sure why this is so hard to believe? It was three brothers, all from the same family, all decided in their twenties to do this at the same time.

I'm friends with all three--hence multiple friends.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2015 22:07     Subject: Disagreement with my husband
I was premature and was not circumcised because the doctor didn't think I could handle the trauma.

I played sports in jr high and high school so I spent a lot of time around other boys in the locker room and shower. Being uncircumcised was never an issue.

I never had a problem getting girls either.

- just a sample of one.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2015 21:35     Subject: Disagreement with my husband
There are even many Jewish people who have had enough.

http://www.jewsagainstcircumcision.org/