Anonymous
06/18/2015 08:57
Subject: Re:Eight People Shot in Black Church in Charleston, South Carolina
Places of worship are one of the most targeted places for mass shootings.
Many places of worship have armed guards because of this. For example, I think most the synagogues in this area have armed guards for all activities.
Many places of worship have armed guards because of this. For example, I think most the synagogues in this area have armed guards for all activities.
Anonymous
06/18/2015 08:56
Subject: Eight People Shot in Black Church in Charleston, South Carolina
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is awful. Schools and church should always be safe places. I hope they get him alive.
Everywhere should be safe -EVERY.FREAKING.WHERE.
And I do not think the pp bringing up the NRA is wrong. There needs to be a change in the conversation, a shift in the paradigm when it comes to gun violence in this country. ENOUGH IS FREAKING ENOUGH! Dollars to donuts this nut probably was licensed to have a gun. WE NEED TO MAKE IT NEAR TO IMPOSSIBLE TO GET GUNS!
BACKGROUND CHECKS
TRAINING
LIMITS ON TYPES OF GUNS AVAVAILABLE TO LICENSED OWNERS
signed,
a responsible gun owner
Everywhere can't always be safe.
Anonymous
06/18/2015 08:55
Subject: Eight People Shot in Black Church in Charleston, South Carolina
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh...I got another $5 says upon capture he'll be called all kinds of crazies and psychos and mentally disturbed adjectives but you won't hear any mention of the word thug or criminal or any other inherently violent adjective to describe him nor will he be paraded throughout the media as typifying the entire white race - he'll be regarded as an anomaly.
Why should he be? The entire white race does not go around shooting up churches-this guy is an anomaaly-a crazy, gun toting, sociopathic anomaly!
Not saying he should merely making note of the contrast between the media's perception/depiction of a white guy who kills someone (sociopathic anomaly) and a non-white person who kills someone (typical black thug or common Hispanic gang-banger). When non-whites commit atrocities it's a reflection on ALL of them whereas when whites that commit atrocities its not portrayed as such.
And if the perp here were Muslim, you just KNOW he'd be immediately typecast as a "terrorist" and not a lone mentally ill guy. There is an absolute double standard when it comes to white violent criminals, and others.
Bingo
It would depend on how the act was committed. Did the Muslim scream Allahu Akbar prior? Was he known to others as radicalized? I'm a conservative and I do believe this Charleston shooting was a hate crime and that the kid was identifying with a group like the Klan. A lot of radicalized Muslims are also 'lone wolves' especially ones in this country. They are influenced by terrorist organizations but might not have a hard link, i.e. are a formal member of ISIS. ISIS is, in fact, calling for 'lone wolves' in the States.
The Klan is a terrorist organization, so if you think he was inspired by them, this is also an act of terrorism.
Absolutely.
Anonymous
06/18/2015 08:54
Subject: Eight People Shot in Black Church in Charleston, South Carolina
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh...I got another $5 says upon capture he'll be called all kinds of crazies and psychos and mentally disturbed adjectives but you won't hear any mention of the word thug or criminal or any other inherently violent adjective to describe him nor will he be paraded throughout the media as typifying the entire white race - he'll be regarded as an anomaly.
I don't think this is true. Gifford's shooter WAS 'crazy' - as evidenced by those who had interacted with him, and by his patterns of stalking, etc. Ditto the Aurora shooter. This man is not 'crazy' in that sense, nor will he be portrayed as such. It's clear from police statements so far that this man is a sociopath.
Sociopaths are "normal" then? Is it no longer included in the DSM?
Sociopaths are fit to stand trial. Paranoid schizophrenics are often not.
Anonymous
06/18/2015 08:54
Subject: Re:Eight People Shot in Black Church in Charleston, South Carolina
We have to stop allowing terrorists and mentally ill persons to buy and obtain guns in this country. But the NRA feels that a sale is a sale regardless of who is buying their product or what they are going to use it for. I wish to God the American people would wise up to this simple fact and stop believing that this has anything to do with the 2nd amendment or our right to bear arms!!
Signed - A GUN OWNER.
Signed - A GUN OWNER.
Anonymous
06/18/2015 08:54
Subject: Eight People Shot in Black Church in Charleston, South Carolina
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh...I got another $5 says upon capture he'll be called all kinds of crazies and psychos and mentally disturbed adjectives but you won't hear any mention of the word thug or criminal or any other inherently violent adjective to describe him nor will he be paraded throughout the media as typifying the entire white race - he'll be regarded as an anomaly.
Why should he be? The entire white race does not go around shooting up churches-this guy is an anomaaly-a crazy, gun toting, sociopathic anomaly!
Not saying he should merely making note of the contrast between the media's perception/depiction of a white guy who kills someone (sociopathic anomaly) and a non-white person who kills someone (typical black thug or common Hispanic gang-banger). When non-whites commit atrocities it's a reflection on ALL of them whereas when whites that commit atrocities its not portrayed as such.
And if the perp here were Muslim, you just KNOW he'd be immediately typecast as a "terrorist" and not a lone mentally ill guy. There is an absolute double standard when it comes to white violent criminals, and others.
Bingo
It would depend on how the act was committed. Did the Muslim scream Allahu Akbar prior? Was he known to others as radicalized? I'm a conservative and I do believe this Charleston shooting was a hate crime and that the kid was identifying with a group like the Klan. A lot of radicalized Muslims are also 'lone wolves' especially ones in this country. They are influenced by terrorist organizations but might not have a hard link, i.e. are a formal member of ISIS. ISIS is, in fact, calling for 'lone wolves' in the States.
The Klan is a terrorist organization, so if you think he was inspired by them, this is also an act of terrorism.
Anonymous
06/18/2015 08:54
Subject: Eight People Shot in Black Church in Charleston, South Carolina
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ban Guns.. They will make bombs.. Ban pressure cookers and pipes... They will poison food.
Ok -- I'm still good with 1 less person getting struck down by a gun.
What the freak is your point, that people will kill people anyway so let them have any and all kinds of weapons? Not smart, my friend. Rather foolish actually.
By your logic, we should also ban cars.
Anonymous
06/18/2015 08:49
Subject: Eight People Shot in Black Church in Charleston, South Carolina
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh...I got another $5 says upon capture he'll be called all kinds of crazies and psychos and mentally disturbed adjectives but you won't hear any mention of the word thug or criminal or any other inherently violent adjective to describe him nor will he be paraded throughout the media as typifying the entire white race - he'll be regarded as an anomaly.
I don't think this is true. Gifford's shooter WAS 'crazy' - as evidenced by those who had interacted with him, and by his patterns of stalking, etc. Ditto the Aurora shooter. This man is not 'crazy' in that sense, nor will he be portrayed as such. It's clear from police statements so far that this man is a sociopath.
Sociopaths are "normal" then? Is it no longer included in the DSM?
Anonymous
06/18/2015 08:48
Subject: Eight People Shot in Black Church in Charleston, South Carolina
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh...I got another $5 says upon capture he'll be called all kinds of crazies and psychos and mentally disturbed adjectives but you won't hear any mention of the word thug or criminal or any other inherently violent adjective to describe him nor will he be paraded throughout the media as typifying the entire white race - he'll be regarded as an anomaly.
Why should he be? The entire white race does not go around shooting up churches-this guy is an anomaaly-a crazy, gun toting, sociopathic anomaly!
Not saying he should merely making note of the contrast between the media's perception/depiction of a white guy who kills someone (sociopathic anomaly) and a non-white person who kills someone (typical black thug or common Hispanic gang-banger). When non-whites commit atrocities it's a reflection on ALL of them whereas when whites that commit atrocities its not portrayed as such.
And if the perp here were Muslim, you just KNOW he'd be immediately typecast as a "terrorist" and not a lone mentally ill guy. There is an absolute double standard when it comes to white violent criminals, and others.
Bingo
It would depend on how the act was committed. Did the Muslim scream Allahu Akbar prior? Was he known to others as radicalized? I'm a conservative and I do believe this Charleston shooting was a hate crime and that the kid was identifying with a group like the Klan. A lot of radicalized Muslims are also 'lone wolves' especially ones in this country. They are influenced by terrorist organizations but might not have a hard link, i.e. are a formal member of ISIS. ISIS is, in fact, calling for 'lone wolves' in the States.
Huh? Why would this matter in your distinction? Mentally ill people shout all sorts of things, including religious slogans. I think you need to re-examine your prejudices on how you distinguish between lone crazies (who may use religious as a personal tool), and organized terrorism, and hate crimes.
Anonymous
06/18/2015 08:41
Subject: Eight People Shot in Black Church in Charleston, South Carolina
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh...I got another $5 says upon capture he'll be called all kinds of crazies and psychos and mentally disturbed adjectives but you won't hear any mention of the word thug or criminal or any other inherently violent adjective to describe him nor will he be paraded throughout the media as typifying the entire white race - he'll be regarded as an anomaly.
Why should he be? The entire white race does not go around shooting up churches-this guy is an anomaaly-a crazy, gun toting, sociopathic anomaly!
Not saying he should merely making note of the contrast between the media's perception/depiction of a white guy who kills someone (sociopathic anomaly) and a non-white person who kills someone (typical black thug or common Hispanic gang-banger). When non-whites commit atrocities it's a reflection on ALL of them whereas when whites that commit atrocities its not portrayed as such.
And if the perp here were Muslim, you just KNOW he'd be immediately typecast as a "terrorist" and not a lone mentally ill guy. There is an absolute double standard when it comes to white violent criminals, and others.
Bingo
It would depend on how the act was committed. Did the Muslim scream Allahu Akbar prior? Was he known to others as radicalized? I'm a conservative and I do believe this Charleston shooting was a hate crime and that the kid was identifying with a group like the Klan. A lot of radicalized Muslims are also 'lone wolves' especially ones in this country. They are influenced by terrorist organizations but might not have a hard link, i.e. are a formal member of ISIS. ISIS is, in fact, calling for 'lone wolves' in the States.
Anonymous
06/18/2015 08:38
Subject: Eight People Shot in Black Church in Charleston, South Carolina
The woman he left alive to tell the story apparently died later at the hospital. I hope she gave the officers information before passing. Such a shame overall.
God rest their souls
God rest their souls
Anonymous
06/18/2015 08:32
Subject: Eight People Shot in Black Church in Charleston, South Carolina
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh...I got another $5 says upon capture he'll be called all kinds of crazies and psychos and mentally disturbed adjectives but you won't hear any mention of the word thug or criminal or any other inherently violent adjective to describe him nor will he be paraded throughout the media as typifying the entire white race - he'll be regarded as an anomaly.
Why should he be? The entire white race does not go around shooting up churches-this guy is an anomaaly-a crazy, gun toting, sociopathic anomaly!
Not saying he should merely making note of the contrast between the media's perception/depiction of a white guy who kills someone (sociopathic anomaly) and a non-white person who kills someone (typical black thug or common Hispanic gang-banger). When non-whites commit atrocities it's a reflection on ALL of them whereas when whites that commit atrocities its not portrayed as such.
And if the perp here were Muslim, you just KNOW he'd be immediately typecast as a "terrorist" and not a lone mentally ill guy. There is an absolute double standard when it comes to white violent criminals, and others.
Bingo
Anonymous
06/18/2015 08:31
Subject: Eight People Shot in Black Church in Charleston, South Carolina
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ban Guns.. They will make bombs.. Ban pressure cookers and pipes... They will poison food.
Ok -- I'm still good with 1 less person getting struck down by a gun.
What the freak is your point, that people will kill people anyway so let them have any and all kinds of weapons? Not smart, my friend. Rather foolish actually.
+1. Another area where Obama could and should have made a difference, yet he shrank like a violet to focus on who knows what.
Anonymous
06/18/2015 08:26
Subject: Eight People Shot in Black Church in Charleston, South Carolina
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh...I got another $5 says upon capture he'll be called all kinds of crazies and psychos and mentally disturbed adjectives but you won't hear any mention of the word thug or criminal or any other inherently violent adjective to describe him nor will he be paraded throughout the media as typifying the entire white race - he'll be regarded as an anomaly.
Why should he be? The entire white race does not go around shooting up churches-this guy is an anomaaly-a crazy, gun toting, sociopathic anomaly!
Not saying he should merely making note of the contrast between the media's perception/depiction of a white guy who kills someone (sociopathic anomaly) and a non-white person who kills someone (typical black thug or common Hispanic gang-banger). When non-whites commit atrocities it's a reflection on ALL of them whereas when whites that commit atrocities its not portrayed as such.
And if the perp here were Muslim, you just KNOW he'd be immediately typecast as a "terrorist" and not a lone mentally ill guy. There is an absolute double standard when it comes to white violent criminals, and others.
Anonymous
06/18/2015 08:25
Subject: Eight People Shot in Black Church in Charleston, South Carolina
This is terrorism. Not only were elected officials targeted, but today is the anniversary of a planned slave revolt at that church.