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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She's a spontaneous girl... which didn't work so well for the formula of the show. Funny how you have the ones who won't kiss or won't stay overnight in the fantasy suite and then you have the ones like Kaitlyn who can't wait a few weeks to have an overnight.

Kaitlyn is far nicer than any of the Bachelorettes who have gone before, and her biggest advantage is that she's not a lying hypocrite.

So true! I guess we're just used to the code words and the somewhat mysterious fantasy suites sex.

She's said she isn't ashamed but then is very regretful of what she did like there was no way to stop it. That's the part I don't like. Like you didn't think that was gonna piss off the rest of the dudes?

I think its complex - she feels she can go with how she feels but she's not worked out that if she thinks it through first, rather than being spontaneous, she might work out how it will make her and others feel after. She's kind of not taking responsibility for herself, but she's also aware that she's free to do what she wants.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She's a spontaneous girl... which didn't work so well for the formula of the show. Funny how you have the ones who won't kiss or won't stay overnight in the fantasy suite and then you have the ones like Kaitlyn who can't wait a few weeks to have an overnight.

Kaitlyn is far nicer than any of the Bachelorettes who have gone before, and her biggest advantage is that she's not a lying hypocrite.

So true! I guess we're just used to the code words and the somewhat mysterious fantasy suites sex.

She's said she isn't ashamed but then is very regretful of what she did like there was no way to stop it. That's the part I don't like. Like you didn't think that was gonna piss off the rest of the dudes?

Anonymous wrote:I just can't see Nick as sexy.

I feel like he was born to a play Puck and that's all. I cannot get beyond that!

I finally figured out why I find him somewhat attractive. He reminds me of an adult Ben Savage from Boy Meets World!

Anonymous wrote:Anyone think the producers told Kaitlyn to keep Nick around?

I can imagine a conversation that starts

Producer "So Kaitlyn what is going to look worse, dropping a guy you've slept with or one you haven't?"

Anyone think the producers told Kaitlyn to keep Nick around?

I just can't see Nick as sexy.

I feel like he was born to a play Puck and that's all. I cannot get beyond that!

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Anonymous wrote:So they are giving her the opportunity to have sex with all the guys to fix the mess she created?

Yeah, I commented earlier as well -- pretty gross (but not for her, or the guys -- we'll see ...)

You guys - it's always three overnight dates. It's always the final three. The only thing that's different this time is that there isn't a 4th guy getting a hometown date. She's not getting overnights with three guys because of what happened with Nick - it's three overnights because that's the formula.

Previous seasons have had sex before the overnights (Ben's season in the ocean, Juan Pablo debatably also in the ocean - both on camera). Kaitlyn's pre-fantasty suite sex was in her hotel room, but I fail to see how that makes it more offensive than what's happened in prior seasons.

Anonymous wrote:I spotted this page on Nick, and looks like he's really trying to grab attention; at first, I didn't recognize him. He looks much more buff here, and well, just being a slime-ball, trying to show off, I think.
http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2015/07/03/is-nick-viall-using-the-bachelorette-f

He is tired of being called effeminate and goofy I expect, which is why he has been working out. Who knows what he is looking for. I doubt he even has a clear idea.

I spotted this page on Nick, and looks like he's really trying to grab attention; at first, I didn't recognize him. He looks much more buff here, and well, just being a slime-ball, trying to show off, I think.
http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2015/07/03/is-nick-viall-using-the-bachelorette-f

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Anonymous wrote:Glad JJ is gone. Not enough bleach to get rid of that visual.

I think it will be Shawn, Nick and Jared as final 3. Joe is going home. He reminds me of that troll doll they put on top of pencils.

Shawn, Nick and Ben. Remember there is a Ben left and the Bens were always better than Jared.

She has good chemistry with Jared, but it may be too much like that of a friend/brother.

Anonymous wrote:Glad JJ is gone. Not enough bleach to get rid of that visual.

I think it will be Shawn, Nick and Jared as final 3. Joe is going home. He reminds me of that troll doll they put on top of pencils.

Shawn, Nick and Ben. Remember there is a Ben left and the Bens were always better than Jared.

Glad JJ is gone. Not enough bleach to get rid of that visual.

I think it will be Shawn, Nick and Jared as final 3. Joe is going home. He reminds me of that troll doll they put on top of pencils.

Anonymous wrote:17:06 here. I just said earlier what PP did. The overnight dates are coming ahead of the hometown ones. Chris H. has changed the way the events are happening, tailored to Kaitlyn's experience.

That's what I thought! I thought that overnights came after hometowns....then started doubting my memory on that one.

glad you cleared it up.

Anonymous wrote:She's a spontaneous girl... which didn't work so well for the formula of the show. Funny how you have the ones who won't kiss or won't stay overnight in the fantasy suite and then you have the ones like Kaitlyn who can't wait a few weeks to have an overnight.

Kaitlyn is far nicer than any of the Bachelorettes who have gone before, and her biggest advantage is that she's not a lying hypocrite.

She's a spontaneous girl... which didn't work so well for the formula of the show. Funny how you have the ones who won't kiss or won't stay overnight in the fantasy suite and then you have the ones like Kaitlyn who can't wait a few weeks to have an overnight.