Goddamn people in this thread are dumb.

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Not a single person has said that except you. Including the quote I gave you above. Again, reading comprehension here.

Then please explain what you believe "Type 2 diabetes is 100% a lifestyle (obesity) related disease" means.

It means that obesity leads to type 2 diabetes. Which is 100% controllable by a lifestyle choice. Unlike people who develop type II through other means, like genetics, age or inactivity due to long term disability.

Again, just like lung cancer can develop in someone who has never smoked - out of their control. Lung cancer from smoking - in their control.

BTW, I am not the person who originally posted the quote you gave, but I am the person who pointed out obesity leads to several healthy issues.

Lung cancer is not 100% a lifestyle related disease -- given that there are people who get lung cancer who never smoked or were exposed to second-hand smoke.

And type II diabetes is not 100% an obesity related disease -- given that there are people who get type II diabetes who are not obese. (And there are also people who are obese and do not have type II diabetes, but that's a different issue.)

Oh for fucks sake! YES I SAID THAT.

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Not a single person has said that except you. Including the quote I gave you above. Again, reading comprehension here.

Then please explain what you believe "Type 2 diabetes is 100% a lifestyle (obesity) related disease" means.

It means that obesity leads to type 2 diabetes. Which is 100% controllable by a lifestyle choice. Unlike people who develop type II through other means, like genetics, age or inactivity due to long term disability.

Again, just like lung cancer can develop in someone who has never smoked - out of their control. Lung cancer from smoking - in their control.

BTW, I am not the person who originally posted the quote you gave, but I am the person who pointed out obesity leads to several healthy issues.

Lung cancer is not 100% a lifestyle related disease -- given that there are people who get lung cancer who never smoked or were exposed to second-hand smoke.

And type II diabetes is not 100% an obesity related disease -- given that there are people who get type II diabetes who are not obese. (And there are also people who are obese and do not have type II diabetes, but that's a different issue.)

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think glorifying morbidly obese is any better than glorifying super skinny. Neither is healthy. But I also don't believe in tearing people down because of their weight. Tess seems like a wonderful person and if she is happy, who am I to judge.

Her doctor should be judging her. Just because she "seems like a wonderful person" and "says" she is happy, does not make her a hero.

I read once where she said she thought no one could ever love her because she was fat and she had accepted that until she met her fiance Nick. That is a terrible thing to accept about yourself, especially because she has control over her body and can do something about it. Makes me sad.

What? That someone can love you unconditionally because they see something special about the person you are?

She was feeling unlovable because people like you were screaming that being fat made her worthless. But I guess Nick never got your message and now Tess has chosen to ignore you and live her life.

There was a time when I thought like you. And you know what happened to me? I gained weight. And you know what? I'm still me. The people who love ME are still by my side. The people who liked me for what my body looked like have long since scattered.

Wow are you stupid or overly sensitive or bad at reading or what? I said it made me feel sad that she thought no one could love her and that she just had to accept that. My heart went out to her. I didn't want someone else just to accept their fate because they were fat, because except in the most extenuating circumstances you have control over doing something about it.

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Not a single person has said that except you. Including the quote I gave you above. Again, reading comprehension here.

Then please explain what you believe "Type 2 diabetes is 100% a lifestyle (obesity) related disease" means.

People who have a genetic propensity to develop Type 2 diabetes can control that propensity to some degree. But they are pitting themselves against a biological process that others are not dealing with. Unless they eat an extremely regimented diet they are going to put on the pounds.

I've been dealing with insulin resistance for years (not diabetes). If I wasn't as careful about my diet as I am, I would have diabetes. It sucks but it is what it is. And, no, I do not fault myself for it or think that I'm genetically inferior in any way. I do understand why some people just say f*ck it and go on the meds though. Eventually I'll be there myself.

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Wrong, wrong, wrong. Type 2 diabetes is 100% a lifestyle (obesity) related disease.

What are your medical qualifications? Actual medical doctors disagree with you.

http://media.jamanetwork.com/news-item/adults-who-are-normal-weight-at-time-diabetes-diagnosis-have-higher-rate-death-than-those-who-are-overweight-at-diagnosis/

One research study that other studies and common medical advice disputes.

Nobody disputes -- or, at least, nobody should dispute -- that there are non-obese people who develop Type II diabetes.

Apparently the first PP does. My DH was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes at age 32. He was of normal weight, ate appropriately and exercised regularly. We knew it was probably just a matter of time before he developed it. See, he's of Hispanic descent and has a very strong family history of diabetes. His mother, aunt, uncle and grandmother have Type 2 diabetes, are a healthy weight, eat appropriately and are physically active. We'll be watching our kids for it as well. In the meantime, we all have healthy diets and exercise.

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Not a single person has said that except you. Including the quote I gave you above. Again, reading comprehension here.

Then please explain what you believe "Type 2 diabetes is 100% a lifestyle (obesity) related disease" means.

It means that obesity leads to type 2 diabetes. Which is 100% controllable by a lifestyle choice. Unlike people who develop type II through other means, like genetics, age or inactivity due to long term disability.

Again, just like lung cancer can develop in someone who has never smoked - out of their control. Lung cancer from smoking - in their control.

BTW, I am not the person who originally posted the quote you gave, but I am the person who pointed out obesity leads to several healthy issues.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think glorifying morbidly obese is any better than glorifying super skinny. Neither is healthy. But I also don't believe in tearing people down because of their weight. Tess seems like a wonderful person and if she is happy, who am I to judge.

Her doctor should be judging her. Just because she "seems like a wonderful person" and "says" she is happy, does not make her a hero.

I read once where she said she thought no one could ever love her because she was fat and she had accepted that until she met her fiance Nick. That is a terrible thing to accept about yourself, especially because she has control over her body and can do something about it. Makes me sad.

What? That someone can love you unconditionally because they see something special about the person you are?

She was feeling unlovable because people like you were screaming that being fat made her worthless. But I guess Nick never got your message and now Tess has chosen to ignore you and live her life.

There was a time when I thought like you. And you know what happened to me? I gained weight. And you know what? I'm still me. The people who love ME are still by my side. The people who liked me for what my body looked like have long since scattered.

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Not a single person has said that except you. Including the quote I gave you above. Again, reading comprehension here.

Then please explain what you believe "Type 2 diabetes is 100% a lifestyle (obesity) related disease" means.

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Give me that any day of this. Her arms are so inflated and are likely or will soon be edema that is makes me nauseous to look, this woman is not healthy and her need to make a cool slogan like "Eff your beauty standards" and champion fat acceptance is so sad. If only she put all that effort into a treadmill and portion control.

So don't look.

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Wrong, wrong, wrong. Type 2 diabetes is 100% a lifestyle (obesity) related disease.

What are your medical qualifications? Actual medical doctors disagree with you.

http://media.jamanetwork.com/news-item/adults-who-are-normal-weight-at-time-diabetes-diagnosis-have-higher-rate-death-than-those-who-are-overweight-at-diagnosis/

One research study that other studies and common medical advice disputes.

Nobody disputes -- or, at least, nobody should dispute -- that there are non-obese people who develop Type II diabetes.

That is why this statement was made "Lung cancer and emphysema doesn't only afflict smokers, but smokers accept that risk when they continue their addiction. Diabetes, cancer and infertility are all afflictions of obesity."

Reading comprehension is your friend.

If there are non-obese people who develop Type II diabetes, then Type II diabetes is not a 100% obesity-related disease.

Not a single person has said that except you. Including the quote I gave you above. Again, reading comprehension here.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think glorifying morbidly obese is any better than glorifying super skinny. Neither is healthy. But I also don't believe in tearing people down because of their weight. Tess seems like a wonderful person and if she is happy, who am I to judge.

Her doctor should be judging her. Just because she "seems like a wonderful person" and "says" she is happy, does not make her a hero.

Is she calling herself a freakin' hero? Or did she just dare to grace the front cover of a magazine? I say good for her.

FWIW, no teenage girl is going to start porking out just because Tess is comfortable with herself. But maybe it will inspire some girls to be less bitchy about weight and body image. That would be nice.

The discussion point, which has obviously gone over your head, is whether or not People magazine (or any other pub for that matter) should be glorifying obesity. My answer to that is no. And by putting Tess on the cover, and giving her message of "fat acceptance" legs, they are doing that in some small fashion.

Don't worry, they'll be back to glorifying skinny, botoxed women next week and all the fatties will be put back in their place

Give me that any day of this. Her arms are so inflated and are likely or will soon be edema that is makes me nauseous to look, this woman is not healthy and her need to make a cool slogan like "Eff your beauty standards" and champion fat acceptance is so sad. If only she put all that effort into a treadmill and portion control.

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Wrong, wrong, wrong. Type 2 diabetes is 100% a lifestyle (obesity) related disease.

What are your medical qualifications? Actual medical doctors disagree with you.

http://media.jamanetwork.com/news-item/adults-who-are-normal-weight-at-time-diabetes-diagnosis-have-higher-rate-death-than-those-who-are-overweight-at-diagnosis/

One research study that other studies and common medical advice disputes.

Nobody disputes -- or, at least, nobody should dispute -- that there are non-obese people who develop Type II diabetes.

That is why this statement was made "Lung cancer and emphysema doesn't only afflict smokers, but smokers accept that risk when they continue their addiction. Diabetes, cancer and infertility are all afflictions of obesity."

Reading comprehension is your friend.

If there are non-obese people who develop Type II diabetes, then Type II diabetes is not a 100% obesity-related disease.

I think it's ok that she's on the cover, would use it as a learning opportunity with my kids if they pointed it out.

I would tell my kids that our bodies needs a certain amount of calories for energy and to function. I would also tell my kids that she probably eats more calories than her body needs on a regular basis or she might have a medical condition which has caused her to gain weight.

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Anonymous wrote:

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Type 2 diabetes is 100% a lifestyle (obesity) related disease.

What are your medical qualifications? Actual medical doctors disagree with you.

http://media.jamanetwork.com/news-item/adults-who-are-normal-weight-at-time-diabetes-diagnosis-have-higher-rate-death-than-those-who-are-overweight-at-diagnosis/

One research study that other studies and common medical advice disputes.

Nobody disputes -- or, at least, nobody should dispute -- that there are non-obese people who develop Type II diabetes.

That is why this statement was made "Lung cancer and emphysema doesn't only afflict smokers, but smokers accept that risk when they continue their addiction. Diabetes, cancer and infertility are all afflictions of obesity."

Reading comprehension is your friend.