Anonymous
Post 05/18/2015 20:38     Subject: Duke professor's racist comments
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I'd be concerned that a Duke polisci professor is referring to "the blacks" -- not a very nuanced analysis.


Oh really? What is the approved languge now?


People who've spent more than 10 minutes with a black person knows that we are not referred to as "the blacks". Hell, you can learn that on DCUMs.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2015 20:37     Subject: Duke professor's racist comments
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I'd be concerned that a Duke polisci professor is referring to "the blacks" -- not a very nuanced analysis.

You've never heard an educated AA person make reference to "the whites"?
Get real.


No, I haven't.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2015 20:29     Subject: Duke professor's racist comments
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:(article link below) Your thoughts? While I believe in freedom of speech, it saddens me to see yet another professor fail to understand the complexity of the issue. I have never heard of an Asian American being subjected to police brutality and yes there are Asian gang members and Asian criminals too. I have never heard of an educated Asian man being pulled over by police when the only possible reason is he is driving a new Mercedes. As far as I know, Asian Americans were not told to sit at the back of the bus, and drink from separate water fountains and they did not have to worry about being tarred and feathered for dating a person who is white. There is so much more to consider than this, but how is it someone makes it to becoming a professor without having an open minded, an ability to see all aspects of an issue and empathy?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/duke-professor-criticized-for-online-comments-about-african-americans/ar-BBjQOfY?ocid=iehp


Well I'm sure you've heard of Asian Americans being yanked off planes because of their turbans or otherwise being discriminated against because they looked Arab right?


Most of America does not understand that Indians are a sub-set of the group "Asians."


+1. Most Americans know very little about world or even US history other than Lincoln and MLK were great guys, and both assasinated.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2015 20:25     Subject: Re:Duke professor's racist comments
Anonymous wrote:
“Every Asian student has a very simple old American first name that symbolizes their desire for integration,” his online comment said. “Virtually every black has a strange new name that symbolizes their lack of desire for integration. The amount of Asian-white dating is enormous and so surely will be the intermarriage. Black-white dating is almost non-existent because of the ostracism by blacks of anyone who dates a white.”

The comment concluded: “It was appropriate that a Chinese design won the competition for the Martin Luther King state (sic). King helped them overcome. The blacks followed Malcolm X.”


Seriously? Not only is that racist, it's moronic. "Every Asian student as a simple old American first name"? "Virtually every black has a strange new name"?

Holy crap. What an idiot.

I don't even know what to say about the idea that "the blacks" followed Malcolm X and not MLK.


The "every" is an obvious exaggeration, but the gist of his comments is spot on.

Truth hurts.

Compare names, and any outcome you want, in heavy-Asian vs heavy-AA areas.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2015 20:22     Subject: Duke professor's racist comments
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

While there is no denying the Chinese Exclusion Act's racism, the more recent Asian American experience is hardly one of prevalent racism.

Asians are one of the most successful segments of American society. While Asian people are a minority among the population, they are generally excluded from affirmative action programs (how racist is that!!?!).

While there are exceptions of course, recent Asain immigrants are highly successful in America, and their first generation children tend to be phenomenally successful.

Please don't start playing the victim card as Asians; it is tiresome enough when constantly played by all the other minorities, as well as this administration.


If you actually knew a something more about Asian Americans than model-minority sterotypes, you would know that you can't generalize all Asian American groups. Asian Americans have the widest intra-racial achievement gaps of any race. Vietnamese, Cambodian, and Laotian Americans are some of the poorest of the poor in the United States. They have some of the highest high school drop out rates in the country, and among the worst health outcomes.


+1

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/innovations/wp/2015/05/18/why-calling-asian-americans-a-model-minority-glosses-over-crucial-issues/

quote:

" The White House Initiative on Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders (WHIAAPI) often cites compelling data to make this case: Asian American and African American students have the highest rates of remedial coursework; one out of four Korean Americans go without health insurance; one of every three AAPIs is limited in English proficiency; and only 18 percent of Native Hawaiians and Pacific Islanders over the age of 25 hold a college degree.

The model minority label makes things worse for large sections of these communities, because their needs are often overlooked or misunderstood and then rarely addressed in government programs and by social-service organizations. Lack of disaggregated data perpetuates this label."
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2015 20:18     Subject: Duke professor's racist comments
Anonymous wrote:Japanese internment camps?


... and Chinese Exclusion Act?
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2015 20:14     Subject: Duke professor's racist comments
Anonymous wrote:Blacks get a boost in admissions at duke - stop complaining.

Put it this way - would you rather not get affirmative action and not have professors like this OR would you want race-blind admissions like Caltech AND race-blind professors?
Oh, those are the choices? I didn't know that one automatically dictated the other. And they don't.....in case you were wondering.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2015 20:14     Subject: Duke professor's racist comments
Anonymous wrote:Blacks get a boost in admissions at duke - stop complaining.

Put it this way - would you rather not get affirmative action and not have professors like this OR would you want race-blind admissions like Caltech AND race-blind professors?


Or like like the UC system
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2015 20:09     Subject: Duke professor's racist comments
Anonymous wrote:Uh Chinese building the transcontinental railroad?


The white guys who built most of it (along the Union Pacific route) would be surprised to hear about it.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2015 19:45     Subject: Duke professor's racist comments
Blacks get a boost in admissions at duke - stop complaining.

Put it this way - would you rather not get affirmative action and not have professors like this OR would you want race-blind admissions like Caltech AND race-blind professors?
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2015 19:27     Subject: Re:Duke professor's racist comments
From the University that gave us the "Group of 88." Not surprised
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2015 18:44     Subject: Duke professor's racist comments
Anonymous wrote:(article link below) Your thoughts? While I believe in freedom of speech, it saddens me to see yet another professor fail to understand the complexity of the issue. I have never heard of an Asian American being subjected to police brutality and yes there are Asian gang members and Asian criminals too. I have never heard of an educated Asian man being pulled over by police when the only possible reason is he is driving a new Mercedes. As far as I know, Asian Americans were not told to sit at the back of the bus, and drink from separate water fountains and they did not have to worry about being tarred and feathered for dating a person who is white. There is so much more to consider than this, but how is it someone makes it to becoming a professor without having an open minded, an ability to see all aspects of an issue and empathy?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/duke-professor-criticized-for-online-comments-about-african-americans/ar-BBjQOfY?ocid=iehp


Uh Chinese building the transcontinental railroad?
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2015 17:21     Subject: Duke professor's racist comments
Anonymous wrote:I would not get too worked up about Jerry Hough. When I took his classes in the 80s, I thought he was a smart guy with a lot to say about the Soviet Union. But I also thought he was very scatter-brained and disorganized, like he was starting to show signs of dementia.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2015 16:45     Subject: Duke professor's racist comments
I would not get too worked up about Jerry Hough. When I took his classes in the 80s, I thought he was a smart guy with a lot to say about the Soviet Union. But I also thought he was very scatter-brained and disorganized, like he was starting to show signs of dementia.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2015 16:30     Subject: Duke professor's racist comments
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:(article link below) Your thoughts? While I believe in freedom of speech, it saddens me to see yet another professor fail to understand the complexity of the issue. I have never heard of an Asian American being subjected to police brutality and yes there are Asian gang members and Asian criminals too. I have never heard of an educated Asian man being pulled over by police when the only possible reason is he is driving a new Mercedes. As far as I know, Asian Americans were not told to sit at the back of the bus, and drink from separate water fountains and they did not have to worry about being tarred and feathered for dating a person who is white. There is so much more to consider than this, but how is it someone makes it to becoming a professor without having an open minded, an ability to see all aspects of an issue and empathy?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/duke-professor-criticized-for-online-comments-about-african-americans/ar-BBjQOfY?ocid=iehp


Well I'm sure you've heard of Asian Americans being yanked off planes because of their turbans or otherwise being discriminated against because they looked Arab right?


Most of America does not understand that Indians are a sub-set of the group "Asians."


So too are people from the Middle East (excluding Northern Africa).