Anonymous
05/15/2015 22:51
Subject: Israel tells refugees to go back to Africa or to prison. We didn't do that to Jews fleeing Hitler.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wait, so Israel should open its borders to thousands and thousands of Africans just because they show up?
Should Europe? Should we? Will you absorb thousands of immigrants into your neighborhood?
Israel -- actually any nation -- is under zero obligation to take in immigrants that show up illegally.
It's pretty nice of them to offer a ticket and cash.
Using your logic, no one was under any obligation to help the Jews (gypsies, disabled, etc) fleeing the Holocaust.
That is correct. It was entirely up to the discretion of the United States. Many factors were probably taken into account, not in the least was the ability for the European Jews to assimilate easily and readily into American society and not be a burden.
The problems in Eritrea (and Ethiopia and Somalia and Syria) can not be solved by absorbing their entire populations into other countries. While kind-hearted, this is ridiculously short-sighted.
Not up to the discretion of the Palestinians, of course. The people who, you know, already lived there.
I believe that we are responsible for each other's well-being. By living on this planet, we are beholden to one another. No one is obligated to help victims of human trafficking, or of natural disasters, or of famine, and yet we do. I think the same level of compassion should be applied to people seeking to escape oppressive and war-torn environments.
How many illegals have you personally taken in?
Nice straw man.
I am not a nation.
no
not a nation
But your tax dollars are supporting folks we've taken in. SOMEONE'S paying!
That's fine. They will turn out like other immigrants - get jobs, start businesses.
Anonymous
05/15/2015 22:42
Subject: Israel tells refugees to go back to Africa or to prison. We didn't do that to Jews fleeing Hitler.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You forgot the $3,500 per person part. And a ticket home or to another African country. Kind of a nice thing to do for people who you can't absorb without financial implications for your own country and people
Oh let's not kid ourselves. The issue is not financial. If these were Jews, they would be in.
I agree
Anonymous
05/15/2015 20:51
Subject: Israel tells refugees to go back to Africa or to prison. We didn't do that to Jews fleeing Hitler.
Anonymous wrote:You forgot the $3,500 per person part. And a ticket home or to another African country. Kind of a nice thing to do for people who you can't absorb without financial implications for your own country and people
Oh let's not kid ourselves. The issue is not financial. If these were Jews, they would be in.
Anonymous
05/15/2015 20:44
Subject: Israel tells refugees to go back to Africa or to prison. We didn't do that to Jews fleeing Hitler.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wait, so Israel should open its borders to thousands and thousands of Africans just because they show up?
Should Europe? Should we? Will you absorb thousands of immigrants into your neighborhood?
Israel -- actually any nation -- is under zero obligation to take in immigrants that show up illegally.
It's pretty nice of them to offer a ticket and cash.
Using your logic, no one was under any obligation to help the Jews (gypsies, disabled, etc) fleeing the Holocaust.
That is correct. It was entirely up to the discretion of the United States. Many factors were probably taken into account, not in the least was the ability for the European Jews to assimilate easily and readily into American society and not be a burden.
The problems in Eritrea (and Ethiopia and Somalia and Syria) can not be solved by absorbing their entire populations into other countries. While kind-hearted, this is ridiculously short-sighted.
Not up to the discretion of the Palestinians, of course. The people who, you know, already lived there.
I believe that we are responsible for each other's well-being. By living on this planet, we are beholden to one another. No one is obligated to help victims of human trafficking, or of natural disasters, or of famine, and yet we do. I think the same level of compassion should be applied to people seeking to escape oppressive and war-torn environments.
How many illegals have you personally taken in?
Nice straw man.
I am not a nation.
no
not a nation
But your tax dollars are supporting folks we've taken in. SOMEONE'S paying!
Anonymous
05/15/2015 20:38
Subject: Re:Israel tells refugees to go back to Africa or to prison. We didn't do that to Jews fleeing Hitler.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Right wingers prove again they are the scions of the ideology of: "who gives a fuck about anyone else."
You can offer shelter to a refugee. What's stopping you?
They need a new country, not a sofa to crash on.
You can help one at a time.
They don't want a place to stay. They want a country to let them in. I am happy to approve their asylum request if you will authorize me.
Anonymous
05/15/2015 20:13
Subject: Re:Israel tells refugees to go back to Africa or to prison. We didn't do that to Jews fleeing Hitler.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Right wingers prove again they are the scions of the ideology of: "who gives a fuck about anyone else."
You can offer shelter to a refugee. What's stopping you?
They need a new country, not a sofa to crash on.
You can help one at a time.
Anonymous
05/15/2015 19:17
Subject: Israel tells refugees to go back to Africa or to prison. We didn't do that to Jews fleeing Hitler.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dude, Israelis don't want schwarzes around in the 'homeland'.
Israeli people HATE blacks like you wouldn't believe.
You have to separate your typical upper middle class ashkenazi jewish-american who isn't all that religious (and most probably athiest/agnostic) from israelis.
Most israelis act like the arabs they proclaim to be so different from.
What is that supposed to mean?
clannish, insular, dislike blacks, and not naturally accepting of western liberal thought/ideas/values.
I hate to break it to you, but a large chunk of the Arab world is in Africa.
Sub-saharans are not looked upon with fondness in the maghreb or the arabian peninsula.
Uh, there are black muslims all over Africa. Lots of black people outside of sub saharan africa.
Anonymous
05/15/2015 16:42
Subject: Israel tells refugees to go back to Africa or to prison. We didn't do that to Jews fleeing Hitler.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dude, Israelis don't want schwarzes around in the 'homeland'.
Israeli people HATE blacks like you wouldn't believe.
You have to separate your typical upper middle class ashkenazi jewish-american who isn't all that religious (and most probably athiest/agnostic) from israelis.
Most israelis act like the arabs they proclaim to be so different from.
What is that supposed to mean?
clannish, insular, dislike blacks, and not naturally accepting of western liberal thought/ideas/values.
I hate to break it to you, but a large chunk of the Arab world is in Africa.
Sub-saharans are not looked upon with fondness in the maghreb or the arabian peninsula.
Anonymous
05/15/2015 16:41
Subject: Israel tells refugees to go back to Africa or to prison. We didn't do that to Jews fleeing Hitler.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dude, Israelis don't want schwarzes around in the 'homeland'.
Israeli people HATE blacks like you wouldn't believe.
You have to separate your typical upper middle class ashkenazi jewish-american who isn't all that religious (and most probably athiest/agnostic) from israelis.
Most israelis act like the arabs they proclaim to be so different from.
What is that supposed to mean?
clannish, insular, dislike blacks, and not naturally accepting of western liberal thought/ideas/values.
How do the Israeli's treat their women and homosexuals? Seem like there would be more in those two groups than blacks.
That's little comfort if you are an Ethiopian Jew.
Anonymous
05/15/2015 16:33
Subject: Israel tells refugees to go back to Africa or to prison. We didn't do that to Jews fleeing Hitler.
Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dude, Israelis don't want schwarzes around in the 'homeland'.
Israeli people HATE blacks like you wouldn't believe.
You have to separate your typical upper middle class ashkenazi jewish-american who isn't all that religious (and most probably athiest/agnostic) from israelis.
Most israelis act like the arabs they proclaim to be so different from.
What is that supposed to mean?
clannish, insular, dislike blacks, and not naturally accepting of western liberal thought/ideas/values.
How do the Israeli's treat their women and homosexuals? Seem like there would be more in those two groups than blacks.
Muslima
05/15/2015 16:24
Subject: Israel tells refugees to go back to Africa or to prison. We didn't do that to Jews fleeing Hitler.
Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dude, Israelis don't want schwarzes around in the 'homeland'.
Israeli people HATE blacks like you wouldn't believe.
You have to separate your typical upper middle class ashkenazi jewish-american who isn't all that religious (and most probably athiest/agnostic) from israelis.
Most israelis act like the arabs they proclaim to be so different from.
What is that supposed to mean?
clannish, insular, dislike blacks, and not naturally accepting of western liberal thought/ideas/values.
Stereotypical much?
Anonymous
05/15/2015 16:21
Subject: Israel tells refugees to go back to Africa or to prison. We didn't do that to Jews fleeing Hitler.
Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dude, Israelis don't want schwarzes around in the 'homeland'.
Israeli people HATE blacks like you wouldn't believe.
You have to separate your typical upper middle class ashkenazi jewish-american who isn't all that religious (and most probably athiest/agnostic) from israelis.
Most israelis act like the arabs they proclaim to be so different from.
What is that supposed to mean?
clannish, insular, dislike blacks, and not naturally accepting of western liberal thought/ideas/values.
I hate to break it to you, but a large chunk of the Arab world is in Africa.
Anonymous
05/15/2015 16:18
Subject: Israel tells refugees to go back to Africa or to prison. We didn't do that to Jews fleeing Hitler.
Muslima wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dude, Israelis don't want schwarzes around in the 'homeland'.
Israeli people HATE blacks like you wouldn't believe.
You have to separate your typical upper middle class ashkenazi jewish-american who isn't all that religious (and most probably athiest/agnostic) from israelis.
Most israelis act like the arabs they proclaim to be so different from.
What is that supposed to mean?
clannish, insular, dislike blacks, and not naturally accepting of western liberal thought/ideas/values.
Muslima
05/15/2015 16:08
Subject: Israel tells refugees to go back to Africa or to prison. We didn't do that to Jews fleeing Hitler.
Anonymous wrote:Dude, Israelis don't want schwarzes around in the 'homeland'.
Israeli people HATE blacks like you wouldn't believe.
You have to separate your typical upper middle class ashkenazi jewish-american who isn't all that religious (and most probably athiest/agnostic) from israelis.
Most israelis act like the arabs they proclaim to be so different from.
What is that supposed to mean?
Anonymous
05/15/2015 15:46
Subject: Israel tells refugees to go back to Africa or to prison. We didn't do that to Jews fleeing Hitler.
Dude, Israelis don't want schwarzes around in the 'homeland'.
Israeli people HATE blacks like you wouldn't believe.
You have to separate your typical upper middle class ashkenazi jewish-american who isn't all that religious (and most probably athiest/agnostic) from israelis.
Most israelis act like the arabs they proclaim to be so different from.
Israeli people HATE blacks like you wouldn't believe.
You have to separate your typical upper middle class ashkenazi jewish-american who isn't all that religious (and most probably athiest/agnostic) from israelis.
Most israelis act like the arabs they proclaim to be so different from.