Anonymous
05/18/2021 22:18
Subject: 5th-6th grade math / Map-M
Is Math 6+ truly open ended? Don’t they have map m algebra?
Anonymous
05/17/2021 14:53
Subject: 5th-6th grade math / Map-M
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
My 5th grade DD's MAP score was something in the 260s, and I am requesting a switch to Algebra for next year.
I am well aware that the supposedly advanced math tracks in most schools are meaningless, because all that's taught is applying the formula. This is easy for children like my daughter, who is a fast learner.
The real work of mathematics needs to be done outside of school, in places like AoPS, where students are trained in actual logical reasoning and problem solving.
We did Algebra this year in 6th and no regrets and its gone very well. I would absolutely encourage you to do a prep class this summer to make sure she can handle it. We did one last summer and it was fantastic. AIM is just pre-algebra.
Thank you, this was my thought as well. The middle school math chair said he might test DD to see whether she's ready, so I'll time the prep accordingly. I'm sure she can do it, since we've been desultorily teaching her algebraic equations and inequalities at home. This stuff is not hard, and since I have a high schooler on the advanced math track (who took Algebra in 7th), I know that in high school, it's still not hard. Like I said, MCPS and other public school systems completely skip the actual reasoning part... unless the kids are in magnets
Anonymous
05/17/2021 14:28
Subject: 5th-6th grade math / Map-M
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looking at this old thread and wondering if my soon-to-be rising 6th grader should consider Algebra next year?
Their last MAP-M was around 280. They didn't get picked for the magnet lottery and were mostly bored to tears by Compacted 5/6.
They're supposed to take AIM next year which may be kind of basic for them. The only reason this might be good is they might be more challenged and engaged.
Any advice?
A 280 in the MAP K2-5 is pretty good, but it must be considered that the test intentionally excludes any post 5th grade material, it includes only what they refer to as "extensions."
Our DC also got a 273 (in 4th grade), thanks to Covid-related semi-home schooling boost.
Insist on having your child take the K6+ test - that's the truly open-ended test that extends all the way to 12th grade.
If they score > 260 in that test they're ready for Algebra.
It depends on the kid. Really any kid over 245 is ready for Algebra. The test changes once you hit Algebra so scores can change but once they get on their MS track and do well the MAP scores are pretty meaningless.
Anonymous
05/17/2021 14:26
Subject: 5th-6th grade math / Map-M
Anonymous wrote:
My 5th grade DD's MAP score was something in the 260s, and I am requesting a switch to Algebra for next year.
I am well aware that the supposedly advanced math tracks in most schools are meaningless, because all that's taught is applying the formula. This is easy for children like my daughter, who is a fast learner.
The real work of mathematics needs to be done outside of school, in places like AoPS, where students are trained in actual logical reasoning and problem solving.
We did Algebra this year in 6th and no regrets and its gone very well. I would absolutely encourage you to do a prep class this summer to make sure she can handle it. We did one last summer and it was fantastic. AIM is just pre-algebra.
Anonymous
05/17/2021 14:16
Subject: 5th-6th grade math / Map-M
My 5th grade DD's MAP score was something in the 260s, and I am requesting a switch to Algebra for next year.
I am well aware that the supposedly advanced math tracks in most schools are meaningless, because all that's taught is applying the formula. This is easy for children like my daughter, who is a fast learner.
The real work of mathematics needs to be done outside of school, in places like AoPS, where students are trained in actual logical reasoning and problem solving.
Anonymous
05/17/2021 14:09
Subject: 5th-6th grade math / Map-M
Anonymous wrote:Looking at this old thread and wondering if my soon-to-be rising 6th grader should consider Algebra next year?
Their last MAP-M was around 280. They didn't get picked for the magnet lottery and were mostly bored to tears by Compacted 5/6.
They're supposed to take AIM next year which may be kind of basic for them. The only reason this might be good is they might be more challenged and engaged.
Any advice?
A 280 in the MAP K2-5 is pretty good, but it must be considered that the test intentionally excludes any post 5th grade material, it includes only what they refer to as "extensions."
Our DC also got a 273 (in 4th grade), thanks to Covid-related semi-home schooling boost.
Insist on having your child take the K6+ test - that's the truly open-ended test that extends all the way to 12th grade.
If they score > 260 in that test they're ready for Algebra.
Anonymous
05/16/2021 17:45
Subject: 5th-6th grade math / Map-M
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Mine is in compacted math got 260 and is in IM next year. If your kid is strong and is coasting you should ask to test them. My old DS is same coaster will not admit things are boring.
Anonymous wrote:For parents of current 5th graders - quick survey and trying to see if the info would help me talk to my DC's teachers.
What was your child's 5th grade spring MAP-M score?
Is your child in compacted 5/6 math?
Will your child take Math 6 or IM next year?
I'll go first: 243/Not in compacted/Math 6 next year.
Wondering if this score is good to request a test for IM placement?
additional info: DC is solid in math, tends to coast along if not challenged. Should I let DC be in Math 6 and coast along or request acceleration? Trying to see what the average MAP-M 5th grade spring scores are and where my DC is.
Is there any point in talking to the teachers? Thanks for your input!
As I posted earlier in previous years 240 was the cutoff for being placed in 6th grade IM. I think it was a soft cutoff. I'd discuss with your kids MS counselor.
It varies by school. Kids with that kind of score were offered AIM or Algebra at our school. That cut off sounds very high. There is no test for IM. Just call the middle school and request your child be put in IM/AIM. You don't need compacted math to be in a higher math especially with that score.
Anonymous
05/16/2021 17:44
Subject: 5th-6th grade math / Map-M
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looking at this old thread and wondering if my soon-to-be rising 6th grader should consider Algebra next year?
Their last MAP-M was around 280. They didn't get picked for the magnet lottery and were mostly bored to tears by Compacted 5/6.
They're supposed to take AIM next year which may be kind of basic for them. The only reason this might be good is they might be more challenged and engaged.
Any advice?
If your kid was bored with compacted then AIM isn't going to be any better. DC also skipped it and went directly to algebra. In retrospect, I feel it was the right choice, but also don't see acceleration as an end personally more of a matter of helping DC learn at their own pace.
This. We jumped directly to Algebra. Some schools allow it some don't. I didn't see the point in it but my child picked it and is much happier. Some schools are flexible. We were told if we choose algebra and it wasn't working we could go back to AIM no issue. Even in the magnet, those magnets don't all offer Algebra so you may be better off at your home school if you are looking for math acceleration.
Anonymous
05/15/2021 11:24
Subject: 5th-6th grade math / Map-M
Anonymous wrote:Looking at this old thread and wondering if my soon-to-be rising 6th grader should consider Algebra next year?
Their last MAP-M was around 280. They didn't get picked for the magnet lottery and were mostly bored to tears by Compacted 5/6.
They're supposed to take AIM next year which may be kind of basic for them. The only reason this might be good is they might be more challenged and engaged.
Any advice?
If your kid was bored with compacted then AIM isn't going to be any better. DC also skipped it and went directly to algebra. In retrospect, I feel it was the right choice, but also don't see acceleration as an end personally more of a matter of helping DC learn at their own pace.
Anonymous
05/15/2021 11:18
Subject: 5th-6th grade math / Map-M
Anonymous wrote:Mine is in compacted math got 260 and is in IM next year. If your kid is strong and is coasting you should ask to test them. My old DS is same coaster will not admit things are boring.
Anonymous wrote:For parents of current 5th graders - quick survey and trying to see if the info would help me talk to my DC's teachers.
What was your child's 5th grade spring MAP-M score?
Is your child in compacted 5/6 math?
Will your child take Math 6 or IM next year?
I'll go first: 243/Not in compacted/Math 6 next year.
Wondering if this score is good to request a test for IM placement?
additional info: DC is solid in math, tends to coast along if not challenged. Should I let DC be in Math 6 and coast along or request acceleration? Trying to see what the average MAP-M 5th grade spring scores are and where my DC is.
Is there any point in talking to the teachers? Thanks for your input!
As I posted earlier in previous years 240 was the cutoff for being placed in 6th grade IM. I think it was a soft cutoff. I'd discuss with your kids MS counselor.
Anonymous
05/14/2021 10:57
Subject: 5th-6th grade math / Map-M
Mine is in compacted math got 260 and is in IM next year. If your kid is strong and is coasting you should ask to test them. My old DS is same coaster will not admit things are boring.
Anonymous wrote:For parents of current 5th graders - quick survey and trying to see if the info would help me talk to my DC's teachers.
What was your child's 5th grade spring MAP-M score?
Is your child in compacted 5/6 math?
Will your child take Math 6 or IM next year?
I'll go first: 243/Not in compacted/Math 6 next year.
Wondering if this score is good to request a test for IM placement?
additional info: DC is solid in math, tends to coast along if not challenged. Should I let DC be in Math 6 and coast along or request acceleration? Trying to see what the average MAP-M 5th grade spring scores are and where my DC is.
Is there any point in talking to the teachers? Thanks for your input!
Anonymous
05/14/2021 10:26
Subject: 5th-6th grade math / Map-M
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:what does MAP-M measure exactly? more math knowledge or just deeper thinking.
Its easy to beat the MAP Math scores if you work ahead with your child. 250's is not uncommon if kids are super smart or have supplemented at home. When it hits Algebra often the scores go down the first test or two as the test changes so if you are talking about 5-6 math and your 6th grader is in Algebra it will drastically drop.
Yes, that's true with any subject.
Anonymous
05/13/2021 16:24
Subject: 5th-6th grade math / Map-M
Anonymous wrote:what does MAP-M measure exactly? more math knowledge or just deeper thinking.
Its easy to beat the MAP Math scores if you work ahead with your child. 250's is not uncommon if kids are super smart or have supplemented at home. When it hits Algebra often the scores go down the first test or two as the test changes so if you are talking about 5-6 math and your 6th grader is in Algebra it will drastically drop.
Anonymous
05/13/2021 16:19
Subject: 5th-6th grade math / Map-M
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:PP here correction MAP-M score was 449. Sorry for the typo
Try again, that’s still very wrong.
Yeah, MAP scores don't go up to 400. Do you mean 249?
Anonymous
05/13/2021 16:02
Subject: 5th-6th grade math / Map-M
Anonymous wrote:PP here correction MAP-M score was 449. Sorry for the typo
Try again, that’s still very wrong.