Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 10:26     Subject: Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How are they going to enforce this?


Seems like four pages of posters missed this point.

This is completely unenforceable. This is nothing more than class warfare on the poor, Ronald Reagan's Cadillac driving Welfare Queen (who didn't actually exist) all over again.

Kansas GOP is driving that state into the ground fiscally...pay no attention, let's scapegoat the poors.

Are you 100% sure? Because I have a friend who works for Social Services, and she sees plenty of those (I assume the Cadillac part doesn't have to be taken literally.)
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 10:16     Subject: Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Catholics believe in the dignity of the poor. This is the opposite.


Tattoos amd gambling are dignified in the eyes of the Catholic church?


Allowing people to make their own choices, is an important


For people who rely on public assistance for everything, there are already many restrictions. Food stamps, WIC, medicaid, housing assistance, daycare subsidy . . . All of these forms of aid are targeted to specific needs. Cash benefits through TANF are usually a small portion of the package. Allowing people to make their own choices, and allocate this portion of their resources as they see fit, is appropriate.



As outlined by you, maybe we are providing too much. What incentives are we providing to them to get a job if the taxpayers are paying for everything?


"incentive . . . to get a job" sounds like slavery. Who are you to tell them they have to work?

It's a free country. Maybe they don't want to work.


Hello, right-wing troll -- I mean, provocateur -- no, I mean troll.

Seriously, you're going to give one of your compatriots a spittle-meltdown.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 10:08     Subject: Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Really mean! It's horrible to have to be forced onto welfare instead of working. And if that's not punishment enough, now people from fly-over country and imposing restrictions to punish people for being poor!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2015/04/06/kansas-wants-to-ban-welfare-recipients-from-seeing-movies-going-swimming-on-governments-dime/

Regular folks are allowed to get tattoos, take the family to the movies, and maybe have a little fun once in a while at the casino; why shouldn't people from lesser-resources communities have the same rights?



FORCED onto welfare? What a joke, OP.


I have it on good authority that jobs are hard to come by. That authority is the entire Republican Party, circa 2009-2015.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 10:08     Subject: Re:Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Kansas Budget Constraints Are Stifling Transportation Funds

God forbid Sally takes her kids to see Frozen.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 10:03     Subject: Re:Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Anonymous wrote:You guys are suckers.

Kansas' budget is a dumpster fire, so much so that some school districts are closing early because of Brownback's idiotic cuts (http://www.kansas.com/news/state/article17246126.html )

Please pay no attention to that....let's beat this welfare mother like a pinata because she wants to take her kids to the pool.


+1

Exactly! That's part of the point I was making earlier.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 10:03     Subject: Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Catholics believe in the dignity of the poor. This is the opposite.


Tattoos amd gambling are dignified in the eyes of the Catholic church?


Allowing people to make their own choices, is an important


For people who rely on public assistance for everything, there are already many restrictions. Food stamps, WIC, medicaid, housing assistance, daycare subsidy . . . All of these forms of aid are targeted to specific needs. Cash benefits through TANF are usually a small portion of the package. Allowing people to make their own choices, and allocate this portion of their resources as they see fit, is appropriate.



As outlined by you, maybe we are providing too much. What incentives are we providing to them to get a job if the taxpayers are paying for everything?


"incentive . . . to get a job" sounds like slavery. Who are you to tell them they have to work?

It's a free country. Maybe they don't want to work.


Great! Then they are welcome to starve.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 10:02     Subject: Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Anonymous wrote:Really mean! It's horrible to have to be forced onto welfare instead of working. And if that's not punishment enough, now people from fly-over country and imposing restrictions to punish people for being poor!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2015/04/06/kansas-wants-to-ban-welfare-recipients-from-seeing-movies-going-swimming-on-governments-dime/

Regular folks are allowed to get tattoos, take the family to the movies, and maybe have a little fun once in a while at the casino; why shouldn't people from lesser-resources communities have the same rights?


Um, because they can't pay for them? Since when are tattoos, movies and a little fun "rights?"
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 10:01     Subject: Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Anonymous wrote:Really mean! It's horrible to have to be forced onto welfare instead of working. And if that's not punishment enough, now people from fly-over country and imposing restrictions to punish people for being poor!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2015/04/06/kansas-wants-to-ban-welfare-recipients-from-seeing-movies-going-swimming-on-governments-dime/

Regular folks are allowed to get tattoos, take the family to the movies, and maybe have a little fun once in a while at the casino; why shouldn't people from lesser-resources communities have the same rights?



FORCED onto welfare? What a joke, OP.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 10:01     Subject: Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Catholics believe in the dignity of the poor. This is the opposite.


Tattoos amd gambling are dignified in the eyes of the Catholic church?


Allowing people to make their own choices, is an important


For people who rely on public assistance for everything, there are already many restrictions. Food stamps, WIC, medicaid, housing assistance, daycare subsidy . . . All of these forms of aid are targeted to specific needs. Cash benefits through TANF are usually a small portion of the package. Allowing people to make their own choices, and allocate this portion of their resources as they see fit, is appropriate.



As outlined by you, maybe we are providing too much. What incentives are we providing to them to get a job if the taxpayers are paying for everything?


"incentive . . . to get a job" sounds like slavery. Who are you to tell them they have to work?

It's a free country. Maybe they don't want to work.



Free for whom?
It certainly isn’t free for those of us who work in order to support others who COULD work but choose not to because all their needs are taken care of by the government using the money of those who work.....
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 09:47     Subject: Re:Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

You guys are suckers.

Kansas' budget is a dumpster fire, so much so that some school districts are closing early because of Brownback's idiotic cuts (http://www.kansas.com/news/state/article17246126.html )

Please pay no attention to that....let's beat this welfare mother like a pinata because she wants to take her kids to the pool.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 09:35     Subject: Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Catholics believe in the dignity of the poor. This is the opposite.


Tattoos amd gambling are dignified in the eyes of the Catholic church?


Allowing people to make their own choices, is an important


For people who rely on public assistance for everything, there are already many restrictions. Food stamps, WIC, medicaid, housing assistance, daycare subsidy . . . All of these forms of aid are targeted to specific needs. Cash benefits through TANF are usually a small portion of the package. Allowing people to make their own choices, and allocate this portion of their resources as they see fit, is appropriate.



As outlined by you, maybe we are providing too much. What incentives are we providing to them to get a job if the taxpayers are paying for everything?


"incentive . . . to get a job" sounds like slavery. Who are you to tell them they have to work?

It's a free country. Maybe they don't want to work.


That's fine. Don't make me pay for them
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 09:27     Subject: Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Catholics believe in the dignity of the poor. This is the opposite.


Tattoos amd gambling are dignified in the eyes of the Catholic church?


Allowing people to make their own choices, is an important


For people who rely on public assistance for everything, there are already many restrictions. Food stamps, WIC, medicaid, housing assistance, daycare subsidy . . . All of these forms of aid are targeted to specific needs. Cash benefits through TANF are usually a small portion of the package. Allowing people to make their own choices, and allocate this portion of their resources as they see fit, is appropriate.



As outlined by you, maybe we are providing too much. What incentives are we providing to them to get a job if the taxpayers are paying for everything?


"incentive . . . to get a job" sounds like slavery. Who are you to tell them they have to work?

It's a free country. Maybe they don't want to work.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 09:24     Subject: Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Anonymous wrote:How are they going to enforce this?


Seems like four pages of posters missed this point.

This is completely unenforceable. This is nothing more than class warfare on the poor, Ronald Reagan's Cadillac driving Welfare Queen (who didn't actually exist) all over again.

Kansas GOP is driving that state into the ground fiscally...pay no attention, let's scapegoat the poors.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 09:12     Subject: Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

How are they going to enforce this?
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2015 09:09     Subject: Mean spirited welfare reform in Kansas targeting tattoos, massages, and gambling

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Catholics believe in the dignity of the poor. This is the opposite.


Tattoos amd gambling are dignified in the eyes of the Catholic church?


Allowing people to make their own choices, is an important


For people who rely on public assistance for everything, there are already many restrictions. Food stamps, WIC, medicaid, housing assistance, daycare subsidy . . . All of these forms of aid are targeted to specific needs. Cash benefits through TANF are usually a small portion of the package. Allowing people to make their own choices, and allocate this portion of their resources as they see fit, is appropriate.



As outlined by you, maybe we are providing too much. What incentives are we providing to them to get a job if the taxpayers are paying for everything?