Anonymous
Post 02/25/2015 15:04     Subject: Re:Impressed with Zendaya and her response to having her hair style associated with drug culture
I have to say that I give Guilianna props for not saying "but" or making caveats in her apology so it seemed honest and genuine- she is sure to note that her intent wasn't there but that doesn't matter, you can hurt without malice being in your heart and her acknowledgement of that is important.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2015 14:18     Subject: Impressed with Zendaya and her response to having her hair style associated with drug culture
Anonymous wrote:Oh geez, people. It's Fashion Police, and she made a stupid joke about a girl's ugly hairstyle!!! That's all this is. Period. It's not racist. It's not anti-drug or anti-dreads. Just one stupid joke. Had Joan Rivers said it we wouldn't even be talking about this right now. So stupid.

And guess what -- if someone makes a stupid joke about them -- that person has just as much right to say something back about it.
DA FUQ -- you can joke about me -- but I cannot let you know I do not like it and why?
Don't you be stupid.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2015 14:13     Subject: Impressed with Zendaya and her response to having her hair style associated with drug culture
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh geez, people. It's Fashion Police, and she made a stupid joke about a girl's ugly hairstyle!!! That's all this is. Period. It's not racist. It's not anti-drug or anti-dreads. Just one stupid joke. Had Joan Rivers said it we wouldn't even be talking about this right now. So stupid.


She's no Joan Rivers.


omg! i was too slow. i don't know how fashion police is gonna survive w/out joan. they're gonna be issuing video statement every other award show.

as a black woman i adored joan and she made some way worse comments than this regarding race and sexuality and more. but never in a million could i imagine her apologizing. ever!
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2015 14:07     Subject: Impressed with Zendaya and her response to having her hair style associated with drug culture
Anonymous wrote:Oh geez, people. It's Fashion Police, and she made a stupid joke about a girl's ugly hairstyle!!! That's all this is. Period. It's not racist. It's not anti-drug or anti-dreads. Just one stupid joke. Had Joan Rivers said it we wouldn't even be talking about this right now. So stupid.


She's no Joan Rivers.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2015 13:59     Subject: Impressed with Zendaya and her response to having her hair style associated with drug culture
Oh geez, people. It's Fashion Police, and she made a stupid joke about a girl's ugly hairstyle!!! That's all this is. Period. It's not racist. It's not anti-drug or anti-dreads. Just one stupid joke. Had Joan Rivers said it we wouldn't even be talking about this right now. So stupid.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2015 13:10     Subject: Impressed with Zendaya and her response to having her hair style associated with drug culture
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am about sick unto death of people trying to tell me about what I should or should not be offended by.
Just because when you threw the rock you didn't mean to bust me in my face, doesn't make it hurt any less when it did!It's like some silly game that SOME white people like to play, I'm not you, do not have the same experience as you, do not live in your skin, but I can tell you what should hurt your damn feelings. The bottom line is that there a lot of folk out there that are too damn lazy to think before they speak and do not want to hear it when people call them on their shit. If it does not affect you then it isn't real.
Call it racist, predjudice, stereotyping, I don't give a d***, the bottom line is that it was insensitive and ill-advised and she very nicely got her bony ass handed back to her.
BOOM!


You are free to be offended by anything you want. If it pleases you than Rancic got in trouble for calling Zendaya a dirty hippie, then at least someone came out of the mess happy.


I am not happy or unhappy about it. You obviously missed the point.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2015 13:08     Subject: Impressed with Zendaya and her response to having her hair style associated with drug culture
Anonymous wrote:I am about sick unto death of people trying to tell me about what I should or should not be offended by.
Just because when you threw the rock you didn't mean to bust me in my face, doesn't make it hurt any less when it did!It's like some silly game that SOME white people like to play, I'm not you, do not have the same experience as you, do not live in your skin, but I can tell you what should hurt your damn feelings. The bottom line is that there a lot of folk out there that are too damn lazy to think before they speak and do not want to hear it when people call them on their shit. If it does not affect you then it isn't real.
Call it racist, predjudice, stereotyping, I don't give a d***, the bottom line is that it was insensitive and ill-advised and she very nicely got her bony ass handed back to her.
BOOM!


You are free to be offended by anything you want. If it pleases you than Rancic got in trouble for calling Zendaya a dirty hippie, then at least someone came out of the mess happy.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2015 13:02     Subject: Impressed with Zendaya and her response to having her hair style associated with drug culture
I am about sick unto death of people trying to tell me about what I should or should not be offended by.
Just because when you threw the rock you didn't mean to bust me in my face, doesn't make it hurt any less when it did!It's like some silly game that SOME white people like to play, I'm not you, do not have the same experience as you, do not live in your skin, but I can tell you what should hurt your damn feelings. The bottom line is that there a lot of folk out there that are too damn lazy to think before they speak and do not want to hear it when people call them on their shit. If it does not affect you then it isn't real.
Call it racist, predjudice, stereotyping, I don't give a d***, the bottom line is that it was insensitive and ill-advised and she very nicely got her bony ass handed back to her.
BOOM!
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2015 12:54     Subject: Re:Impressed with Zendaya and her response to having her hair style associated with drug culture
Anonymous wrote:Isn't she the same person who referred to one of the Jenner girls as being "edgy" or some other positive thing for wearing dreds a few months back? I might be more inclined to side with the people who say this isn't a race thing if there wasn't this history of it being good when a white girl does it, but apparently dirty when a black girl does. Not the GR was having overtly racists thoughts, but more the latent racism that plays out in more insidious ways.

MICRO-AGGRESSIONS!
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2015 12:51     Subject: Impressed with Zendaya and her response to having her hair style associated with drug culture
Anonymous wrote:Yes but tying it to race was unnecessary. I think Giuliana meant it in a "dreads, like hippies and weed ha ha" type of way. She didn't mean it in a "you're black so.... Weed." Way.

As a black person I'm so over the race card being played at the wrong time.

The main issue was STEREOTYPING -- what part of that do you not understand? Whether it was stereotyping black people with locks or someone else with locks, the issue was the narrow brush with which Guilana painted a picture of someone with locks. Black, Brown or purple, anyone has a right to speak up if they feel that they are being narrowly, incorrectly, and even offensively (even if unintentionally so) defined. Just because you meant no malice, does not I have no right to let you know your actions are offensive. When you lob a bomb, don't get pissy when it blows up in your face.

#haveaseat
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2015 12:46     Subject: Impressed with Zendaya and her response to having her hair style associated with drug culture
Anonymous wrote:https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/singer-zendaya-calls-out-giuliana-rancic-for-111954684778.html

Impressive and refined way to stand up for what is right. I am very, very impressed with this girl's (she is 18 so still really a girl IMO) statement which you can read at the end of the article. She is both well spoken and yet clearly offended and rightly so. My DD (11) loves her from TV and its refreshing to see that a Disney-esque televison personality and popstar is actually to be admired. Finally, a role model worthy of my DD's admiration!

My DD is blonde and blue-eyed and I have pointed out to her stereo types on these tweeny-bopper TV shows many times: from the all too common and long-standing racists ones to the less discussed "pretty blonde girl" always cast as the dumb girl or the mean-girl. I love that a female celebrity from one of these shows (shows that all to often perpetuate these stereotypes) has stepped up to tear a nasty stereotype down!


+10000
Stereotyping is why "Jessie" is on our list of banned shows
they need to miss with me with that ignorant mess
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2015 11:53     Subject: Impressed with Zendaya and her response to having her hair style associated with drug culture
Anonymous wrote:I read Guiliana's comment before I saw Zendaya's response or any of the backlash. The exact thought that went through my head was "damn, bobble head just basically called her a dirty hippie." Not because of the locs, but because of the patchouli reference.

That it would be interpreted as a racial slur never crossed my mind.


I agree with this poster. I don't think of "black people" when I think of dreadlocks, I think of "hippie" types of any race. I've see more white people with dreadlocks.


White, 40 year old, female.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2015 11:49     Subject: Impressed with Zendaya and her response to having her hair style associated with drug culture
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Patchouli, dreadlocks, and weed are white hippie things, especially to someone Guiliana's age. It was a stupid comment, but it wasn't racist.


Locs are not a white hippie thing, but much more prevalent in the black community as a normal hairstyle. Therefore if the only thing you think when you see you see a loc style is weed and patchouli, you're denigrating a whole natural hair choice of a race of people. Who already have enough pressure on hair choices without your misguided judgment.


Actually locs, weed and patchouli have been a white hippie thing. You are incorrect in that. Back in the day I knew a group of white hippies that would perfectly fit that description. And when she made that comment that's what I thought of. So I believe it is very possibly GR didn't mean it that way. AND she's apologized regardless.


I don't know any AA people who wear patchouli, only white hippie chicks.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2015 11:47     Subject: Impressed with Zendaya and her response to having her hair style associated with drug culture
Anonymous wrote:Patchouli, dreadlocks, and weed are white hippie things, especially to someone Guiliana's age. It was a stupid comment, but it wasn't racist.



I have no idea what Guiliana was referencing, but I get the hippie reference. Totally makes me think of Burning Man culture.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2015 11:34     Subject: Impressed with Zendaya and her response to having her hair style associated with drug culture
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Patchouli, dreadlocks, and weed are white hippie things, especially to someone Guiliana's age. It was a stupid comment, but it wasn't racist.


Locs are not a white hippie thing, but much more prevalent in the black community as a normal hairstyle. Therefore if the only thing you think when you see you see a loc style is weed and patchouli, you're denigrating a whole natural hair choice of a race of people. Who already have enough pressure on hair choices without your misguided judgment.


Actually locs, weed and patchouli have been a white hippie thing. You are incorrect in that. Back in the day I knew a group of white hippies that would perfectly fit that description. And when she made that comment that's what I thought of. So I believe it is very possibly GR didn't mean it that way. AND she's apologized regardless.