Anonymous
Post 02/24/2015 10:49     Subject: Re:Race and College Admissions
No. In institutions of higher education, affirmative action refers to admission policies that provide equal access to education for those groups that have been historically excluded or underrepresented, such as women and minorities.


Since, you do not like the term affirmative action for Whites (Anglo) let me coin a term for you. Please fell free to reference this.

Centuries of "automatic action" for Anglo-Americans (providing non equal access to education) with regards college admission decisions (D average GPA and all!). This automatic action has existed in the US for centuries.
Anonymous
Post 02/24/2015 07:49     Subject: Re:Race and College Admissions
Affirmation and preferential action for many centuries was always for whites (Anglo). George Bushes attended on this legacy of preferential and affirmative action for Whites (C/D average and all!)
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2015 20:25     Subject: Re:Race and College Admissions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Barack and Michelle Obama both went to Ivies as a result of Affirmative Action.


So what? George W. Bush went to Yale as a result of affirmative action.


G.W. Bush was a black?


No. George W. Bush is a white person who got into Yale because he had a lot of relatives who had gone to Yale and had a lot of money. That's affirmative action.


No. In institutions of higher education, affirmative action refers to admission policies that provide equal access to education for those groups that have been historically excluded or underrepresented, such as women and minorities.


What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2015 20:24     Subject: Race and College Admissions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is absolutely disgusting. How about emulating Asian successes rather than punish them?

Why should the individual Asian kid be punished because his ethnic group is successful?

Do you really want a doctor who was admitted to medical school by having the deck stacked in his favor? I don't. When I look at a diploma on the wall, I want to know it was earned and not gifted.


+100. I may be a progressive in most issues, but I've finally come to agree that "the best way to stop discrimination based on race is to stop discrimination based on race"


Alternatively, the way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to speak openly and candidly on the subject of race, and to apply the Constitution with eyes open to the unfortunate effects of centuries of racial discrimination.

(I didn't write this; Sonia Sotomayor did.)
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2015 20:20     Subject: Race and College Admissions
Anonymous wrote:This is absolutely disgusting. How about emulating Asian successes rather than punish them?

Why should the individual Asian kid be punished because his ethnic group is successful?

Do you really want a doctor who was admitted to medical school by having the deck stacked in his favor? I don't. When I look at a diploma on the wall, I want to know it was earned and not gifted.


+100. I may be a progressive in most issues, but I've finally come to agree that "the best way to stop discrimination based on race is to stop discrimination based on race"
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2015 20:19     Subject: Race and College Admissions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is absolutely disgusting. How about emulating Asian successes rather than punish them?

Why should the individual Asian kid be punished because his ethnic group is successful?

Do you really want a doctor who was admitted to medical school by having the deck stacked in his favor? I don't. When I look at a diploma on the wall, I want to know it was earned and not gifted.


blah blah - because their applications all look the same or very similar - same grades, same scores, same contrived activities. A school has a right to build a well rounded class mad dup of different kinds of people with different skills and talents.


made up


Yes you have.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2015 20:15     Subject: Race and College Admissions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is absolutely disgusting. How about emulating Asian successes rather than punish them?

Why should the individual Asian kid be punished because his ethnic group is successful?

Do you really want a doctor who was admitted to medical school by having the deck stacked in his favor? I don't. When I look at a diploma on the wall, I want to know it was earned and not gifted.


blah blah - because their applications all look the same or very similar - same grades, same scores, same contrived activities. A school has a right to build a well rounded class mad dup of different kinds of people with different skills and talents.


made up
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2015 20:14     Subject: Race and College Admissions
Anonymous wrote:This is absolutely disgusting. How about emulating Asian successes rather than punish them?

Why should the individual Asian kid be punished because his ethnic group is successful?

Do you really want a doctor who was admitted to medical school by having the deck stacked in his favor? I don't. When I look at a diploma on the wall, I want to know it was earned and not gifted.


blah blah - because their applications all look the same or very similar - same grades, same scores, same contrived activities. A school has a right to build a well rounded class mad dup of different kinds of people with different skills and talents.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2015 20:07     Subject: Re:Race and College Admissions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thought it was stacked against Asians and White men.


I thought it was Asians and white women.


+1 It is actually white WOMEN who have college cards stacked against them as there are significantly more of them applying these days.



Aren't white women the primary beneficiaries of affirmative action for jobs?


No blacks are.


This is my experience in the tech area. Might be nudged to look at more resumes for females (and honestly there are plenty of good candidates in my experience) but the push to hire Hispanic and especially Black candidates is intense.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2015 18:22     Subject: Re:Race and College Admissions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Barack and Michelle Obama both went to Ivies as a result of Affirmative Action.


So what? George W. Bush went to Yale as a result of affirmative action.


G.W. Bush was a black?


No. George W. Bush is a white person who got into Yale because he had a lot of relatives who had gone to Yale and had a lot of money. That's affirmative action.


No. In institutions of higher education, affirmative action refers to admission policies that provide equal access to education for those groups that have been historically excluded or underrepresented, such as women and minorities.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2015 17:54     Subject: Race and College Admissions
Anonymous wrote:This is absolutely disgusting. How about emulating Asian successes rather than punish them?

Why should the individual Asian kid be punished because his ethnic group is successful?

Do you really want a doctor who was admitted to medical school by having the deck stacked in his favor? I don't. When I look at a diploma on the wall, I want to know it was earned and not gifted.


I think it's safe to assume that everybody who has an M.D. earned that M.D.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2015 17:53     Subject: Re:Race and College Admissions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Barack and Michelle Obama both went to Ivies as a result of Affirmative Action.


So what? George W. Bush went to Yale as a result of affirmative action.


G.W. Bush was a black?


No. George W. Bush is a white person who got into Yale because he had a lot of relatives who had gone to Yale and had a lot of money. That's affirmative action.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2015 17:12     Subject: Re:Race and College Admissions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Barack and Michelle Obama both went to Ivies as a result of Affirmative Action.


So what? George W. Bush went to Yale as a result of affirmative action.


G.W. Bush was a black?
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2015 17:02     Subject: Re:Race and College Admissions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Barack and Michelle Obama both went to Ivies as a result of Affirmative Action.


So what? George W. Bush went to Yale as a result of affirmative action.


No he went to Yale as a result of Daddy and legacy.


And so did the Kennedys - bet their daddy wrote some letters as well.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2015 16:59     Subject: Race and College Admissions
This is absolutely disgusting. How about emulating Asian successes rather than punish them?

Why should the individual Asian kid be punished because his ethnic group is successful?

Do you really want a doctor who was admitted to medical school by having the deck stacked in his favor? I don't. When I look at a diploma on the wall, I want to know it was earned and not gifted.