On another thread, someone said they were sad that atheists don't have a soul.

What do you think? Does the fact that atheists lack belief in a soul mean they don't have one?

Anonymous wrote:Oh no! Its the ranting Atheist once again asking a question that is extremely stupid, while thinking she has asked a profoundly clever question. Three most posts and we will see:
* jesus never existed
* monothesism was invented at the council of nicea
* I don't need a god to tell me what to do
* religious people deserve ridicule
* I'm just so much smarter than everybody else I jsut can not believe it.
* why do you counter my brilliant questions with ad hominem attacks

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Anonymous wrote:By definition atheists logically don't believe they have a soul and that everything in the world , including themselves is of no universal significance whatsoever. In the big picture, their feelings, dignity and opinions are no more significant than an ant fart.

Any "reasoning" they construct to assign value to their existence is a more hilarious religion than any they reject.

That's not what being an atheist is. An atheist is someone who believes there is no god. Period.

So by what measure is an atheist feelings, dignity, or existence more valuable than a rock which will be around long after the atheist is dust .

I think that would depend on the individual, wouldn't it? It sounds like you find comfort and guidance in having some sort of defined rubric. Not everyone needs that.

That's called worshiping your feelings. Many do that. That belief is shaken terribly on the deathbed. There is also no logical reason an atheist should morally condemn another that would murder them if that gave the murderer meaning in life.

It's not worshipping your feelings. It's having ethics. My ethics include the belief that killing someone is almost always wrong, except in immediate need for self-defense or defense of another. Murder doesn't give someone meaning in life. It takes it away. That's an extremely common ethical principle.

One persons ethics are another persons religion, all made up nonsense to the logical atheist.

Ethics aren't made up. Regarding basic issues, they are pretty consistent across cultures, religion, and eras. For example, all religions have a component of pro-social behavior - do unto others.... And humans have always defined the killing of another human being as either justified or unjustified, based on the circumstances. The circumstances where it's justified may vary culture to culture, religion to religion, but remarkably not by much.

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Anonymous wrote:By definition atheists logically don't believe they have a soul and that everything in the world , including themselves is of no universal significance whatsoever. In the big picture, their feelings, dignity and opinions are no more significant than an ant fart.

Any "reasoning" they construct to assign value to their existence is a more hilarious religion than any they reject.

That's not what being an atheist is. An atheist is someone who believes there is no god. Period.

So by what measure is an atheist feelings, dignity, or existence more valuable than a rock which will be around long after the atheist is dust .

I think that would depend on the individual, wouldn't it? It sounds like you find comfort and guidance in having some sort of defined rubric. Not everyone needs that.

That's called worshiping your feelings. Many do that. That belief is shaken terribly on the deathbed. There is also no logical reason an atheist should morally condemn another that would murder them if that gave the murderer meaning in life.

It's not worshipping your feelings. It's having ethics. My ethics include the belief that killing someone is almost always wrong, except in immediate need for self-defense or defense of another. Murder doesn't give someone meaning in life. It takes it away. That's an extremely common ethical principle.

One persons ethics are another persons religion, all made up nonsense to the logical atheist.

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Anonymous wrote:By definition atheists logically don't believe they have a soul and that everything in the world , including themselves is of no universal significance whatsoever. In the big picture, their feelings, dignity and opinions are no more significant than an ant fart.

Any "reasoning" they construct to assign value to their existence is a more hilarious religion than any they reject.

That's not what being an atheist is. An atheist is someone who believes there is no god. Period.

So by what measure is an atheist feelings, dignity, or existence more valuable than a rock which will be around long after the atheist is dust .

I think that would depend on the individual, wouldn't it? It sounds like you find comfort and guidance in having some sort of defined rubric. Not everyone needs that.

That's called worshiping your feelings. Many do that. That belief is shaken terribly on the deathbed. There is also no logical reason an atheist should morally condemn another that would murder them if that gave the murderer meaning in life.

It's not worshipping your feelings. It's having ethics. My ethics include the belief that killing someone is almost always wrong, except in immediate need for self-defense or defense of another. Murder doesn't give someone meaning in life. It takes it away. That's an extremely common ethical principle.

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Anonymous wrote:By definition atheists logically don't believe they have a soul and that everything in the world , including themselves is of no universal significance whatsoever. In the big picture, their feelings, dignity and opinions are no more significant than an ant fart.

Any "reasoning" they construct to assign value to their existence is a more hilarious religion than any they reject.

That's not what being an atheist is. An atheist is someone who believes there is no god. Period.

So by what measure is an atheist feelings, dignity, or existence more valuable than a rock which will be around long after the atheist is dust .

I think that would depend on the individual, wouldn't it? It sounds like you find comfort and guidance in having some sort of defined rubric. Not everyone needs that.

That's called worshiping your feelings. Many do that. That belief is shaken terribly on the deathbed. There is also no logical reason an atheist should morally condemn another that would murder them if that gave the murderer meaning in life.

Ant fart poster, we have heard your opinion on this many times, and we get it, but it's time to let go!!

You have given yourself grand relevance, that's great. What you don't understand is that not everyone craves relevance and supernatural meaning. Call me a blip or an ant fart, it doesn't matter because I don't think either one of us is destined for a special outcome after death. But if you want to hope for one, feel free.

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Anonymous wrote:By definition atheists logically don't believe they have a soul and that everything in the world , including themselves is of no universal significance whatsoever. In the big picture, their feelings, dignity and opinions are no more significant than an ant fart.

Any "reasoning" they construct to assign value to their existence is a more hilarious religion than any they reject.

That's not what being an atheist is. An atheist is someone who believes there is no god. Period.

So by what measure is an atheist feelings, dignity, or existence more valuable than a rock which will be around long after the atheist is dust .

I think that would depend on the individual, wouldn't it? It sounds like you find comfort and guidance in having some sort of defined rubric. Not everyone needs that.

That's called worshiping your feelings. Many do that. That belief is shaken terribly on the deathbed. There is also no logical reason an atheist should morally condemn another that would murder them if that gave the murderer meaning in life.

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Anonymous wrote:Well. I'm an atheist and I feel like I have a soul, but I guess I don't know exactly what a soul is. Most of my family are atheists. We all give back to our communities a lot and help people in need either through our careers or voluntarily. Does that mean we have souls and will be saved if we're wrong!!!

No. You have to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior in order to be saved and be granted access to the Kingdom of Heaven. You are a sinner, for we are all sinners. Repent.

that is fucked up, and I'm a Christian.

In what way are you a Christian, swearing like that and swearing like that while you are denying the essential tenets of Christianity?

NP, there is more than one way to be a Christian.

Uh, not really. Do tell, though.

NP but I will bite. There are lots of different interpretations of Christianity. Is that not apparent to you? Views on Christianity are about as wide as you can make them. I would say basic tenet is only that you believe that Jesus Christ was the son of god and that you basically strive to follow the teachings of Christ as best you understand them. What those teachings are is open to interpretation. I personally believe that it is just to try to be a good person, try to forgive, try to be kind. I don't take the central message as one of salvation if I believe because to me trying to be more Christ-like in ones actions is much more important that objectively expressing my beliefs or judging those that don't believe. I am supposed to love those people too.

Yes. This.

If you've broken one commandment you have a debt you can't pay back . Humans situation is so dire, God sent his son to be tortured and killed to absorb the justice required to whitewash us and make us cohabit able with pure and just love in heaven.

That is Christianity .

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Anonymous wrote:By definition atheists logically don't believe they have a soul and that everything in the world , including themselves is of no universal significance whatsoever. In the big picture, their feelings, dignity and opinions are no more significant than an ant fart.

Any "reasoning" they construct to assign value to their existence is a more hilarious religion than any they reject.

That's not what being an atheist is. An atheist is someone who believes there is no god. Period.

So by what measure is an atheist feelings, dignity, or existence more valuable than a rock which will be around long after the atheist is dust .

I think that would depend on the individual, wouldn't it? It sounds like you find comfort and guidance in having some sort of defined rubric. Not everyone needs that.

That's called worshiping your feelings. Many do that. That belief is shaken terribly on the deathbed. There is also no logical reason an atheist should morally condemn another that would murder them if that gave the murderer meaning in life.

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Anonymous wrote:By definition atheists logically don't believe they have a soul and that everything in the world , including themselves is of no universal significance whatsoever. In the big picture, their feelings, dignity and opinions are no more significant than an ant fart.

Any "reasoning" they construct to assign value to their existence is a more hilarious religion than any they reject.

That's not what being an atheist is. An atheist is someone who believes there is no god. Period.

So by what measure is an atheist feelings, dignity, or existence more valuable than a rock which will be around long after the atheist is dust .

I think that would depend on the individual, wouldn't it? It sounds like you find comfort and guidance in having some sort of defined rubric. Not everyone needs that.

That's called worshiping your feelings. Many do that. That belief is shaken terribly on the deathbed. There is also no logical reason an atheist should morally condemn another that would murder them if that gave the murderer meaning in life.

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Anonymous wrote:By definition atheists logically don't believe they have a soul and that everything in the world , including themselves is of no universal significance whatsoever. In the big picture, their feelings, dignity and opinions are no more significant than an ant fart.

Any "reasoning" they construct to assign value to their existence is a more hilarious religion than any they reject.

That's not what being an atheist is. An atheist is someone who believes there is no god. Period.

So by what measure is an atheist feelings, dignity, or existence more valuable than a rock which will be around long after the atheist is dust .

I think that would depend on the individual, wouldn't it? It sounds like you find comfort and guidance in having some sort of defined rubric. Not everyone needs that.

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Anonymous wrote:I think everyone has a soul. And I also don't believe atheists, or anyone else, is going to hell.

So an empty hell, or no hell at all?

I don't believe in hell at all. Of all religious tenets, the concept of hell as a place is the one that should be outright rejected. There is no physical hell. It's a scare tactic and and it serves to make us fear death.

And you know that how? You've there and came back?

I know because people who were raised without fear of hell do not have this fear. It is taught to children and to adults who are "seeking" something.

No, my friend, you do not know! That is your belief, you have no proof or evidence for this. Your opinion is one in hundredths....