Anonymous wrote:Are there two sick babies in this thread? The OP said DS but someone later on said 'she' was still nursing?
And yeah, the 'idiot nurse' comment was just unnecessary. I'm gonna chalk it up to the OP being worried and stressed.

I saw that too... Now I'm suspicious.

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Anonymous wrote:A stomach virus isn't airborne so how exactly would visiting relatives pass this to a 3 week old. It's going to be pretty difficult to do that.

Stomach viruses spread like wildfire. Where have you been?

To a 3 week old?

Assume they touched the baby. Touched kid's hands. Kid puts hand in mouth. Boom.

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Anonymous wrote:A stomach virus isn't airborne so how exactly would visiting relatives pass this to a 3 week old. It's going to be pretty difficult to do that.

Stomach viruses spread like wildfire. Where have you been?

To a 3 week old?

OP, I would be incredibly mad at the family! I wish I could print out this thread and show to my ILs.

When I just had DC, ILs pushed and pushed for us to take the days-old-baby everywhere, "because that what Americans do" (we are immigrants). MIL would not shut up about how babies just can't get sick and we need to take him to the mall (I hate malls, I never go myself, why suddenly bring a baby there?). To appease his mom, DH took the baby grocery shopping, which further convinced her that babies don't get sick.

I wish your little one gets better soon!

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Anonymous wrote:We called our family health specialist and he suggested we go in as a precaution.

He read at 100.6 when we arrived, and it hasn't spiked above 100.8. They did want to do a spinal tap but we refused, they were reluctant but said as long as it didn't start spiking they would just keep him observation. He is nursing a bit, but vomits. He was dehydrated so they had to put in an IV to get fluids in him. It was horrible, they had to put it in his head and the idiot nurse didn't seem to be able to do it properly so they had to call in someone else. Not a happy mom. However, once he started getting fluids he perked up and nursed a lot more. Fever about the same, and no more vomiting within the last 4 hours. He is having several very loose BMs and they want to keep him till Monday just to make sure. We will see how he is doing tomorrow and make plans from there.

We didn't know the visiting family had the stomach virus. They had been sick the night before and the youngest vomited at our house a few times.

Yes. The idiot nurse. Who had trouble because your three week old was dehydrated. Since you already refused standard medical protocols. But clearly it was her fault.

And if the worst happens I am quite sure the drs and hospital will be to blame.

+1

OP, I would think some gratitude would be in order here.

Anonymous wrote:A stomach virus isn't airborne so how exactly would visiting relatives pass this to a 3 week old. It's going to be pretty difficult to do that.

Stomach viruses spread like wildfire. Where have you been?

A stomach virus isn't airborne so how exactly would visiting relatives pass this to a 3 week old. It's going to be pretty difficult to do that.

Omfg at all of this. OP...good luck raising your kid, you are going to need a lot of it.

OP - I know you are stressed. I have been there. My first child had a seizure when he was 4 weeks old. He is 25 now and we still have no idea what caused it and it never happened again. Getting the IV started was very difficult. And my baby was fully hydrated. It took about eight sticks with four different people. Finally, a former combat medic was able to get the IV started. It was horrible. I was a wreck. But it wasn't the fault of the nurses. It's really tough to start an IV on a baby that tiny. A dehydrated baby is even more challenging.

I also agree with the other posters. You should not have refused the spinal tap. You are assuming your baby has a stomach virus simply because he was exposed. There are many other things that can cause fever, vomiting, and diarrhea in an infant. Many of them are life threatening. You are making it more difficult for the medical professionals to help your child.

Take a deep breath. Step back. And let them do what they need to do. If it's too much for you, let someone else stay with the baby for a little while. Leave the hospital while they do the spinal tap if you need to.

OP, come the f--- on. Are you a pediatric nurse? Do you have any idea how difficult it is to get a vein in a tiny baby, much less one who is sick and dehydrated? Often times with my sick kid they had to get a NICU nurse coming off shift to try. We had several scalp ivs, many more infiltrating before getting a central line. They are not doing these things to torture your baby.

I get that you are stressed, but maybe start taking this seriously instead of acting like you're getting bad service in a restaurant.

Note...I super love the part where parents who refuse a spinal tap in situations such as you describe might need to explain your refusal to child welfare services after you have a discussion about potentially being charged with medical neglect.

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Anonymous wrote:We called our family health specialist and he suggested we go in as a precaution.

He read at 100.6 when we arrived, and it hasn't spiked above 100.8. They did want to do a spinal tap but we refused, they were reluctant but said as long as it didn't start spiking they would just keep him observation. He is nursing a bit, but vomits. He was dehydrated so they had to put in an IV to get fluids in him. It was horrible, they had to put it in his head and the idiot nurse didn't seem to be able to do it properly so they had to call in someone else. Not a happy mom. However, once he started getting fluids he perked up and nursed a lot more. Fever about the same, and no more vomiting within the last 4 hours. He is having several very loose BMs and they want to keep him till Monday just to make sure. We will see how he is doing tomorrow and make plans from there.

We didn't know the visiting family had the stomach virus. They had been sick the night before and the youngest vomited at our house a few times.

Yes. The idiot nurse. Who had trouble because your three week old was dehydrated. Since you already refused standard medical protocols. But clearly it was her fault.

And if the worst happens I am quite sure the drs and hospital will be to blame.

+1. OP sounds like the kind who always knows better than the doctors.

I can respect that they have a formal education, however most of what is done is to protect them (legality) not what's best for their patients. We know the risks associated with a spinal tap, and that's a last resort. Doctors and nurses are trained to follow protocol, even when it's unnecessary to protect the hospital.

Maybe the nurse wasn't an idiot, but she could care less the discomfort my baby felt. They disassociate from the patient, and it hurts to see.

Omfg. You are such an idiot. Nurses and drs are incredibly compassionate for the most part. They aren't protecting the hospital the spinal tap is done at that age at that level to PROTECT YOUR KID.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We called our family health specialist and he suggested we go in as a precaution.

He read at 100.6 when we arrived, and it hasn't spiked above 100.8. They did want to do a spinal tap but we refused, they were reluctant but said as long as it didn't start spiking they would just keep him observation. He is nursing a bit, but vomits. He was dehydrated so they had to put in an IV to get fluids in him. It was horrible, they had to put it in his head and the idiot nurse didn't seem to be able to do it properly so they had to call in someone else. Not a happy mom. However, once he started getting fluids he perked up and nursed a lot more. Fever about the same, and no more vomiting within the last 4 hours. He is having several very loose BMs and they want to keep him till Monday just to make sure. We will see how he is doing tomorrow and make plans from there.

We didn't know the visiting family had the stomach virus. They had been sick the night before and the youngest vomited at our house a few times.

Yes. The idiot nurse. Who had trouble because your three week old was dehydrated. Since you already refused standard medical protocols. But clearly it was her fault.

And if the worst happens I am quite sure the drs and hospital will be to blame.

+1. OP sounds like the kind who always knows better than the doctors.

I can respect that they have a formal education, however most of what is done is to protect them (legality) not what's best for their patients. We know the risks associated with a spinal tap, and that's a last resort. Doctors and nurses are trained to follow protocol, even when it's unnecessary to protect the hospital.

Maybe the nurse wasn't an idiot, but she could care less the discomfort my baby felt. They disassociate from the patient, and it hurts to see.

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Anonymous wrote:We called our family health specialist and he suggested we go in as a precaution.

He read at 100.6 when we arrived, and it hasn't spiked above 100.8. They did want to do a spinal tap but we refused, they were reluctant but said as long as it didn't start spiking they would just keep him observation. He is nursing a bit, but vomits. He was dehydrated so they had to put in an IV to get fluids in him. It was horrible, they had to put it in his head and the idiot nurse didn't seem to be able to do it properly so they had to call in someone else. Not a happy mom. However, once he started getting fluids he perked up and nursed a lot more. Fever about the same, and no more vomiting within the last 4 hours. He is having several very loose BMs and they want to keep him till Monday just to make sure. We will see how he is doing tomorrow and make plans from there.

We didn't know the visiting family had the stomach virus. They had been sick the night before and the youngest vomited at our house a few times.

Your family should have told you that they were sick the night before and shouldn't have come over to a house with a newborn. How irresponsible.

Both stupid and incredibly irresponsible.