Anonymous wrote: Oh and we answer friends' and pediatrician's questions honestly. The whole "OMG IT IS A SECRET! YOU HAVE NO BIZNESS KNOWING! I WILL LIE TO YOU EVERY TIME!" is what I'd call the "crazy" strain of gun culture. Anyone concerned about safety is fine talking about what they do to stay safe.

You are stupid. I don't talk about gun ownership to anyone other than close friends who are also gun owners. Nobody else has any need to know.

Blabbing about it to other people just invites trouble -- even if it is only the hysteria on display in this thread.

Anonymous wrote:I see nothing wrong with lethal weapons in the house, but it needs to come with and all-household-safety education, clear and above board, not a secretive hole-in-corner business.

Depends how old they are. When they are old enough to understand the need for security - i.e., not telling other people we have guns in the house - then they get to know about them.

Anonymous wrote:And yes, the rule for playdates and such is that if someone asks, you do not lie, and you explain the safety systems in place in your house. If they don't ask, you don't disclose.

Nope. If someone asks, you lie - unless and until they are close enough friends that they can be trusted.

I simply don't care if you think you have a right to know about it. Because you don't.

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Anonymous wrote:
I'm a Male. x-military SF with real combat experience, not admin or truck duty etc.

I own just the basic for self defense that is not accessible to children. People that are gun fanatics make me sick. They usually fall into two categories. Someone that is perverted and a real risk to society, luckily that makes the vast minority of folks. Most are men with fantasies of fulfilling their inner macho selves that have never lived it in reality. Covering up their fantasies with "it's just a hobby". Either way it makes me sick how cavalier this country is with people that have no business owning such an arsenal.

Lady, stick to your "guns" and lay the law down with your obsessed hubby.

OP, please listen to this man.

"He" is totally making shit up. Probably including the "I'm a Male" part. Seriously -- who the hell says "I'm a Male" not "I'm a man"?

Anonymous wrote:Please inform the parents of your children's friends about guns in your house. I would not allow my child to be in your home and would appreciate knowing in advance. Thanks.

Yes because there is not enough partisan bickering in washington -- we need to extend it to playdates.

I'm not a fan of guns, but have grown to appreciate them since my siblings have them. They're fun to shoot. There is skill level involved. I think they own 2-3 each. They are responsible, lock them, buy their guns legally and have concealed carry permits.

Not everyone who owns a weapon or two is looking to start up their own militia.

Anonymous wrote:
I'm a Male. x-military SF with real combat experience, not admin or truck duty etc.

I own just the basic for self defense that is not accessible to children. People that are gun fanatics make me sick. They usually fall into two categories. Someone that is perverted and a real risk to society, luckily that makes the vast minority of folks. Most are men with fantasies of fulfilling their inner macho selves that have never lived it in reality. Covering up their fantasies with "it's just a hobby". Either way it makes me sick how cavalier this country is with people that have no business owning such an arsenal.

Lady, stick to your "guns" and lay the law down with your obsessed hubby.

OP, please listen to this man.

It is a hobby for assholes. Your husband is a shit.

Anonymous wrote:Please inform the parents of your children's friends about guns in your house. I would not allow my child to be in your home and would appreciate knowing in advance. Thanks.

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Anonymous wrote:I actually never thought of it as a hobby. Thanks for that perspective, PP's.

Guns are not a hobby.

Collecting stamps is a hobby. Cooking gourmet food is a hobby. Knitting is a hobby. Guns are made with one fundamental purpose: to injure and kill. No matter if they're used for "harmless things" like target practice, the ultimate purpose of a gun is to kill a living being (or injure it). I would be livid if my husband suddenly became passionate about guns. I would not let them keep them in the house.

Anonymous wrote:I grew up without guns and don't see the need, although I'm not opposed to them or anything. Just not in my house, I guess. But DH is getting more and more into them, buying without telling me and such. His wish list for Christmas includes laser sights and things like that. We have a young child and he thinks it's fine to introduce guns at a young age. I'm just no ok with all this and yes it's new since marriage. Anyone else experienced this?

No way I'd tolerate guns in the house with a minor child. If he's so dead set on playing Rambo, he can keep them in a safe place somewhere out of the house.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up without guns and don't see the need, although I'm not opposed to them or anything. Just not in my house, I guess. But DH is getting more and more into them, buying without telling me and such. His wish list for Christmas includes laser sights and things like that. We have a young child and he thinks it's fine to introduce guns at a young age. I'm just no ok with all this and yes it's new since marriage. Anyone else experienced this?

Just a phase -- like any hobby. Don't try to control it.

I would also say having grown up around guns that if your DH knows a firearm and is a good teacher, that it is a great education for a child to be responsibly introduced to firearms.

Are you kidding? There's no need a minor needs to be introduced to firearms. Dad's "hobby", as you term it, is too much of a risk. My father is a total shit, but the one good thing he did in life was to get rid of all his firearms after I was born. He always said guns and children should not be in the same house. And, for the broken clock principle, he's right on that one.

I'm a Male. x-military SF with real combat experience, not admin or truck duty etc.

I own just the basic for self defense that is not accessible to children. People that are gun fanatics make me sick. They usually fall into two categories. Someone that is perverted and a real risk to society, luckily that makes the vast minority of folks. Most are men with fantasies of fulfilling their inner macho selves that have never lived it in reality. Covering up their fantasies with "it's just a hobby". Either way it makes me sick how cavalier this country is with people that have no business owning such an arsenal.

Lady, stick to your "guns" and lay the law down with your obsessed hubby.

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Please inform the parents of your children's friends about guns in your house. I would not allow my child to be in your home and would appreciate knowing in advance. Thanks.

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+2

+100.

If I were in your position, OP, I'd spend some time learning why the sudden interest in guns. If it is some kind of hobby, then I'd say, great, have a great time at the target range. That said, he will have to rent a storage unit and store them there because for me it is absolutely unacceptable to have a gun in the house with a child. It's unnecessary and a danger very easily avoided. It's a firm line in the sand and he would just have to deal. Sometimes, one partner's bottom line decides the issue. Let's say I want another child and I run into his bottom line that he doesn't want any more children. Well, I respect his bottom line or I leave.

You are not required to give into something that makes you feel unsafe for someone else's hobby.

Of course, it is quite possible after hearing about his interest guns, you may feel fine with a gun safe or whatever other safety precautions. You should make sure that everyone in your family has very good safety training and inform parents that you have guns in the house so that those of us who feel strongly about gun control don't accidentally accept a playdate at your house. It's the least you can do.

My dh wanted to get some gun and keep them in the house. I explained to him that I know how to shoot a gun and that I am very accurate. Then I explained that sometimes I have vivid dreams about him cheating. I am afraid that after one of those, I might try to shoot him.

I was only half kidding. He has seen me wake up angry at him for his behavior in my dream/nightmare. He decided not to get any guns...

So really? Your husbands hobby is more important than your children's safety??

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Anonymous wrote:Please inform the parents of your children's friends about guns in your house. I would not allow my child to be in your home and would appreciate knowing in advance. Thanks.

This.

You need not worry, none of MY friends are sanctimommies, so you're safe.

And if somehow I missed one, oops!