Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:40 feeder kids isn't a huge increase from last year. Hyde and Stoddert have always sent a good number of kids. Stoddert is becoming more IB but the older grades still has a out of OOB as does Hyde.

Pride was holding 50 spots for IB. Not feeder but IB. Missed it by a mile which is sad.

WHO CARES???? you are clearly looking for way to justify your reason for NOT choosing Hardy. Please leave us out of it. And why do so many on this thread believe that the only kids worth attracting are those who live in the actual boundary? Are you really implying that anyone outside of your zip code is substandard?

What is that all about?

It's just about wanting to send your kid to a neighborhood school -- I don't care if a lot of kids at a school are OOB, but I think it is nice to have a strong IB component.

desirability for of Hardy for high SES IB families with choices is a function of school leadership, school curriculum/offerings/physicalplant etc, number of feeder students, and number of "true" IB students. All four matter, and the debate is about how much.

Prob of choosing H - A*(sl) + B(SC) + C(F%) + D(IB%) Where SL is a summary of school leadership factors, SC is a summary of school offering factors, F% is % from feeders and IB% is a true IB percentage

(SC) is a function of SL , lagged. Feeder percentage is a function of SL and SC, also lagged. IB% is a function of SL, SC, and F%, all lagged.

SC is ALSO a function of feeder% and IB% as those changes will impact curriculum offerings. IB% is also a function of lagged IB% (IE previous years IB%)

The interrelationships are why schools flip. The lags are why it takes time.

SL has improved with Pride. SC appears to have improved significantly. Feeder% is clearly up, though perhaps a bit more slowly than forecast a year ago. IB% is likely up but there is no data yet. All these should result in the 2015 feeder and IB% going up even further.

My kids don't go to Hardy. They're not old enough yet.

I don't criticize people for not sending their kids to Hardy. They should do what they think is best for their families.

Never have I posted for others to go to Hardy. All of my posts (and there have been several, always identifiable) have been about assessing the progress at Hardy. I take issue with moving the goalposts in arbitrary and ridiculous directions.

Anonymous wrote:Where to begin...keep on thinking that everyone else thinks like you. Or, realize that you're deeply mistaken. Feeder percentage matters for academic quality. IB percentage matters for playdates. Take your pick.

I know nothing about Pride, yet I'm fairly confident that "privately she is [NOT] just as concerned about the true IB as we all are."

Jacka$$. That's all I really have to say. You're well on your way to ruining two threads with the useless drivel.

--Annoyed IB parent (who lives in an expensive SFH IB for Mann, if you care about those types of things)

The same poster who keeps writing - apparently one of the few Mann parents in years to send a kid to Hardy

Where to begin...keep on thinking that everyone else thinks like you. Or, realize that you're deeply mistaken. Feeder percentage matters for academic quality. IB percentage matters for playdates. Take your pick.

I know nothing about Pride, yet I'm fairly confident that "privately she is [NOT] just as concerned about the true IB as we all are."

Jacka$$. That's all I really have to say. You're well on your way to ruining two threads with the useless drivel.

--Annoyed IB parent (who lives in an expensive SFH IB for Mann, if you care about those types of things)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The IB number is still very low and missed the goal Pride had hoped for last spring. She is focused on only giving out feeder numbers rather than IB numbers.

Principal Pride is right. Given the organization of DCPS schools after Rhee, her given constituency are now the feeder school , not the IB families. There's several IB 6th graders who are not from feeder schools, so I would not be surprised if the number of 6th graders from feeder schools matched more or less the number of IB 6th graders.

You have to understand that, for a Principal of a diverse school, flagging out in victory the number of 6th grade IB kids (as opposed to feeders school kids) would be seen as an hostile move by a significant part of her current (and potential) families. She is a committed and experience professional, she knows she needs to promote the school for future applicants, but she also and most importantly needs to take care of the currently enrolled students and their families.

+1

I completely agree that true IB is the most relevant metric.

However I also agree that the principal is in a delicate position and must be careful not to create divisions within the school community, and thus I also completely agree with her publicly stated focus on the feeder schools. I am sure that privately she is just as concerned about true IB as we all are, but it is not politically astute for her to discuss this publicly. I recommend cutting her some slack and trusting that she wants the same thing you do, provided that you observe that her actions are consistent with that goal (as I believe they are).

I think it is probably the same with the uniforms: I bet most IB families think they should go, but some IB families currently attending think that it would needlessly antagonize many OOB families, who support the uniforms by the sound of it, if they advocate to do away with them. Again, I recommend cutting those IB families some slack. They have to do this balancing act.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]40 feeder kids isn't a huge increase from last year. Hyde and Stoddert have always sent a good number of kids. Stoddert is becoming more IB but the older grades still has a out of OOB as does Hyde.

Pride was holding 50 spots for IB. Not feeder but IB. Missed it by a mile which is sad. [/quote]

WHO CARES???? you are clearly looking for way to justify your reason for NOT choosing Hardy. Please leave us out of it. And why do so many on this thread believe that the only kids worth attracting are those who live in the actual boundary? Are you really implying that anyone outside of your zip code is substandard?

What is that all about?[/quote]

Arguably one reason people like a neighborhood school is that kids can socialize with kids they will see in the neighborhood. Plus more IB will confirm the desirability - the test of the market. Hardy won't be "DC's second Deal" till the IB numbers are close to comparable, I guess.

That said, I think from the other thread that the IB numbers ARE up this year, and as others state, the increase in feeder numbers will make the school more attractive to IB families. [/quote]

But what are the current numbers? If the school has them they should release them. All this delay and rumor makes it seem like they are hiding the numbers.[/quote]

Have any school profiles been updated for the new school year? I can see why the principal might not want to give this (non)issue a whole lot of time and energy, but the IB percentage will be released at some point.[/quote]

Yes. The counting was done this week at Hardy. Figures will be out in a month, but the number will be a weighted average of all grades.
The principal had to face parental anger at some point last year. Parents of enrolled students claimed she was devoting too much energy and time into school promotion with the feeder schools. So I am not surprised she is being more cautious this year. After all, she is paid and has a duty to supervise the school operations for her current students, [b]not to amuse prospective parents.[/b][/quote]

Prospective parents, it should be said, who themselves are not very amused by the prospect of enrolling their kids at Hardy.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:40 feeder kids isn't a huge increase from last year. Hyde and Stoddert have always sent a good number of kids. Stoddert is becoming more IB but the older grades still has a out of OOB as does Hyde.

Pride was holding 50 spots for IB. Not feeder but IB. Missed it by a mile which is sad.

WHO CARES???? you are clearly looking for way to justify your reason for NOT choosing Hardy. Please leave us out of it. And why do so many on this thread believe that the only kids worth attracting are those who live in the actual boundary? Are you really implying that anyone outside of your zip code is substandard?

What is that all about?

Arguably one reason people like a neighborhood school is that kids can socialize with kids they will see in the neighborhood. Plus more IB will confirm the desirability - the test of the market. Hardy won't be "DC's second Deal" till the IB numbers are close to comparable, I guess.

That said, I think from the other thread that the IB numbers ARE up this year, and as others state, the increase in feeder numbers will make the school more attractive to IB families.

But what are the current numbers? If the school has them they should release them. All this delay and rumor makes it seem like they are hiding the numbers.

Have any school profiles been updated for the new school year? I can see why the principal might not want to give this (non)issue a whole lot of time and energy, but the IB percentage will be released at some point.

Yes. The counting was done this week at Hardy. Figures will be out in a month, but the number will be a weighted average of all grades.
The principal had to face parental anger at some point last year. Parents of enrolled students claimed she was devoting too much energy and time into school promotion with the feeder schools. So I am not surprised she is being more cautious this year. After all, she is paid and has a duty to supervise the school operations for her current students, not to amuse prospective parents.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:40 feeder kids isn't a huge increase from last year. Hyde and Stoddert have always sent a good number of kids. Stoddert is becoming more IB but the older grades still has a out of OOB as does Hyde.

Pride was holding 50 spots for IB. Not feeder but IB. Missed it by a mile which is sad.

WHO CARES???? you are clearly looking for way to justify your reason for NOT choosing Hardy. Please leave us out of it. And why do so many on this thread believe that the only kids worth attracting are those who live in the actual boundary? Are you really implying that anyone outside of your zip code is substandard?

What is that all about?

Arguably one reason people like a neighborhood school is that kids can socialize with kids they will see in the neighborhood. Plus more IB will confirm the desirability - the test of the market. Hardy won't be "DC's second Deal" till the IB numbers are close to comparable, I guess.

That said, I think from the other thread that the IB numbers ARE up this year, and as others state, the increase in feeder numbers will make the school more attractive to IB families.

But what are the current numbers? If the school has them they should release them. All this delay and rumor makes it seem like they are hiding the numbers.

Have any school profiles been updated for the new school year? I can see why the principal might not want to give this (non)issue a whole lot of time and energy, but the IB percentage will be released at some point.

If even half of folks in-boundary for Hardy sent their kids to Hardy, that scholastic year would be better quality than Deal, overnight. With a few exceptions, like sports and (ahem) uniforms, that is. Just send your kids there, all of you, and you'll never lose any sleep over it.

Anonymous wrote:

But what are the current numbers? If the school has them they should release them. All this delay and rumor makes it seem like they are hiding the numbers.

People have given possible reasons above. I prefer not to speculate based on delays in releasing data.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:40 feeder kids isn't a huge increase from last year. Hyde and Stoddert have always sent a good number of kids. Stoddert is becoming more IB but the older grades still has a out of OOB as does Hyde.

Pride was holding 50 spots for IB. Not feeder but IB. Missed it by a mile which is sad.

WHO CARES???? you are clearly looking for way to justify your reason for NOT choosing Hardy. Please leave us out of it. And why do so many on this thread believe that the only kids worth attracting are those who live in the actual boundary? Are you really implying that anyone outside of your zip code is substandard?

What is that all about?

Arguably one reason people like a neighborhood school is that kids can socialize with kids they will see in the neighborhood. Plus more IB will confirm the desirability - the test of the market. Hardy won't be "DC's second Deal" till the IB numbers are close to comparable, I guess.

That said, I think from the other thread that the IB numbers ARE up this year, and as others state, the increase in feeder numbers will make the school more attractive to IB families.

But what are the current numbers? If the school has them they should release them. All this delay and rumor makes it seem like they are hiding the numbers.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:40 feeder kids isn't a huge increase from last year. Hyde and Stoddert have always sent a good number of kids. Stoddert is becoming more IB but the older grades still has a out of OOB as does Hyde.

Pride was holding 50 spots for IB. Not feeder but IB. Missed it by a mile which is sad.

WHO CARES???? you are clearly looking for way to justify your reason for NOT choosing Hardy. Please leave us out of it. And why do so many on this thread believe that the only kids worth attracting are those who live in the actual boundary? Are you really implying that anyone outside of your zip code is substandard?

What is that all about?

No one says the kids are substandard. Unfortunately Hardy is perceived as substandard, certainly as compared to Deal.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:40 feeder kids isn't a huge increase from last year. Hyde and Stoddert have always sent a good number of kids. Stoddert is becoming more IB but the older grades still has a out of OOB as does Hyde.

Pride was holding 50 spots for IB. Not feeder but IB. Missed it by a mile which is sad.

WHO CARES???? you are clearly looking for way to justify your reason for NOT choosing Hardy. Please leave us out of it. And why do so many on this thread believe that the only kids worth attracting are those who live in the actual boundary? Are you really implying that anyone outside of your zip code is substandard?

What is that all about?

Arguably one reason people like a neighborhood school is that kids can socialize with kids they will see in the neighborhood. Plus more IB will confirm the desirability - the test of the market. Hardy won't be "DC's second Deal" till the IB numbers are close to comparable, I guess.

That said, I think from the other thread that the IB numbers ARE up this year, and as others state, the increase in feeder numbers will make the school more attractive to IB families.

Anonymous wrote:Why are IB children so special that everyone needs their numbers? How about how many children tested into the more rigorous courses? Isn't the issue really how strong your child's peers will be rather than where they live in the city?

Apparently it's like being pure blood, half blood or muggle born.

We're an IB Eaton family who won't have a shot at Deal.

I just can't get my hackles up for this one. Hardy looks fine to me. It seems like a solid school whose stock is only rising and in about 4 years when we need it, I have high hopes for where it will be. Uniforms don't make me a bat an eye, frankly I think they are a great idea for schools across the board.