Anonymous wrote:

Again, Common Core is not a curriculum, or method of teaching, it's a standard.

And, once more, a standard without testing means nothing.

?? A standard is an articulation of what you think students should know/know how to do. You don't need to test it for students to achieve the standard. It's hard to *know* if they've achieved it without some sort of measure, but it's not integral to learning it.

Again, Common Core is not a curriculum, or method of teaching, it's a standard.

And, once more, a standard without testing means nothing.

Anonymous wrote:

Kentucky high schoolers just finished their third year of Common Core tests. Only 37.9 percent were deemed proficient. So for three frigging YEARS, they've been "learning" this tripe -- and most have no idea what they are doing.

Common Core is confusing students and truly screwing up their education.

I'm pretty sure pre CC Kentucky students scores weren't that great, either. I'm sure CC has made it worse, but that's probably because the curriculum changed in the middle of their schooling years. I don't think it was a good idea to apply it to HS kids. They haven't grown up with CC math for example, so, to have to take an exam based on CC would be hard.

Anonymous wrote:

Kentucky high schoolers just finished their third year of Common Core tests. Only 37.9 percent were deemed proficient. So for three frigging YEARS, they've been "learning" this tripe -- and most have no idea what they are doing.

Common Core is confusing students and truly screwing up their education.

Again, Common Core is not a curriculum, or method of teaching, it's a standard.

Anonymous wrote:

So, in other words, the Common Core standards are bad because they're brand-new and untested, plus also they're unnecessary because they're nothing new.

Why are they good? Please clarify and explain. And, by the way, place value has always been taught. It is just that now, they are demanding that it be taught in a confusing manner.

NP.

Then they were not being taught well in MCPS because some of the upper grade (MS, HS) math teachers were saying that some of the kids that were in advanced math were missing some basics, like place value. This was part of the reason they stopped advancing kids so quickly in math - they were missing basics.

2.0 math is confusing to some people, including some adults (most of which is I think because adults are not used to doing math this way). But those that are good at math will always be good at math no matter how it is taught. It certainly won't make them dumb. For those that aren't as good at math, 2.0 math will explain math concepts better; for others, it may make it more confusing. But then again, the old way of teaching math wasn't meeting everyone's needs either.

I agree, for some kids that are advanced in math, 2.0 math the way it is being taught can be frustrating because of the repetition, spending days if not weeks on some particular concept. But in public school, with class sizes as big as they are (see the other thread about K class sizes which applies across the board to all ES grades), I can understand why the curriculum requires something to be reviewed for a long time and not just a few days - to make sure all kids get it (although I'm sure there will be some that don't get it).

The level of ignorance in this thread is staggering. Here's a clue: If you're comparing Singapore Math to Everyday Math to Common Core Math, you probably don't get it.

Anonymous wrote:

Common Core math is going to make our kids dummies. This will be the lost generation because of this failed experiment.

Unlike their parents who can't do third grade math problems. Wait--what?

So, in other words, the Common Core standards are bad because they're brand-new and untested, plus also they're unnecessary because they're nothing new.

Why are they good? Please clarify and explain. And, by the way, place value has always been taught. It is just that now, they are demanding that it be taught in a confusing manner.

Anonymous wrote:

OK, here's one problem my child had recently: 352 + 418

And here's another problem my child had just last Friday: 7 x 5

Okay. We've always done that. Why do we need to have CC?

So, in other words, the Common Core standards are bad because they're brand-new and untested, plus also they're unnecessary because they're nothing new.

Anonymous wrote:

OK, here's one problem my child had recently: 352 + 418

And here's another problem my child had just last Friday: 7 x 5

Okay. We've always done that. Why do we need to have CC?

2.0 math is not about *NOT* doing those kinds of math, but about how there are different ways to do them which explains place values. It also teaches the kids what exactly 7 x 5 means, ie. groupings, and not just rote memory of 7 x 5 = 35.

OK, here's one problem my child had recently: 352 + 418

And here's another problem my child had just last Friday: 7 x 5

Okay. We've always done that. Why do we need to have CC?

Anonymous wrote:

Because stuff like "yesterday my child had math homework, and everything was fine" typically doesn't go viral.

Great! Could you post a sample of good test questions please? I've only seen confusing oens.

OK, here's one problem my child had recently: 352 + 418

And here's another problem my child had just last Friday: 7 x 5

Anonymous wrote:

Kentucky high schoolers just finished their third year of Common Core tests. Only 37.9 percent were deemed proficient. So for three frigging YEARS, they've been "learning" this tripe -- and most have no idea what they are doing.

Common Core is confusing students and truly screwing up their education.

Either that, or their education before the Common Core wasn't very good, and this is the evidence of it.

Oh, then it must be the poorly written materials! You can't judge the results by the standards! ps I'm being sarcastic.

Kentucky high schoolers just finished their third year of Common Core tests. Only 37.9 percent were deemed proficient. So for three frigging YEARS, they've been "learning" this tripe -- and most have no idea what they are doing.

Common Core is confusing students and truly screwing up their education.