Anonymous
Post 10/09/2014 18:45     Subject: I live in MD and DH lives in VA

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Anonymous wrote:From UVA website

Q: If my parents are divorced am I eligible for in-state educational privileges if I live outside of Virginia and my non-custodial parent lives in Virginia?
A: Yes, if the non-custodial parent contributes substantially to your support and is domiciled in Virginia.

http://www.virginia.edu/provost/vastatus/faqs.html


I wonder how you would prove substantial contributions?



We did this for DS. Ex proved it by claiming him on his taxes.


So your DS resided with you and attended a high school not in VA?


I was able to get in-state tuition to UVA law school (back when there was a huge difference between in-state and out-of-state) because my father paid for my college (private, in another state) and claimed me as a dependent. It wasn't questioned at all even though I had never lived in Virginia before.


So the key is to allow the parent to claim their child as a dependent who you plan on using for IS tuition.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2014 17:15     Subject: Re:I live in MD and DH lives in VA

Anonymous wrote:My kids are the ones who may have gotten accepted if we didn't live where we do in Virginia. After the shock wore off that they couldn't get into the state flagship college, the burden of getting in was actually lifted. We went all over the US touring colleges with the 3 kids and they all found very different great fit colleges that they never would have considered if UVA looked like a good possibility. And I came around to understanding why a kid from ROVA with a weaker application gets the spot over my kid. Looking back, none of the kids or DH or I would change a thing.

This has been our experience as well.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2014 17:15     Subject: I live in MD and DH lives in VA

Anonymous wrote:11:57 here...my kid didn't graduate from an Arlington County school, but we live in Arlington. Sounds like 3/4 of the kids who get into UVA from Langley choose not to attend...that's what's shutting the next 10% out, too many kids treating is as a safety.

With all the historical data showing that about 12 Langley kids choose UVA each year, I'm positive UVA would know how to increase that yeild. If they wanted to.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2014 17:01     Subject: I live in MD and DH lives in VA

11:57 here...my kid didn't graduate from an Arlington County school, but we live in Arlington. Sounds like 3/4 of the kids who get into UVA from Langley choose not to attend...that's what's shutting the next 10% out, too many kids treating is as a safety.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2014 16:14     Subject: Re:I live in MD and DH lives in VA

My kids are the ones who may have gotten accepted if we didn't live where we do in Virginia. After the shock wore off that they couldn't get into the state flagship college, the burden of getting in was actually lifted. We went all over the US touring colleges with the 3 kids and they all found very different great fit colleges that they never would have considered if UVA looked like a good possibility. And I came around to understanding why a kid from ROVA with a weaker application gets the spot over my kid. Looking back, none of the kids or DH or I would change a thing.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2014 16:04     Subject: I live in MD and DH lives in VA

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Anonymous wrote:He might have a slightly better chance applying from Maryland. Why not change his residency after graduation and pay for 1 year out of state?


For VTech maybe (if you are full pay) but not for UVA. Much better chance as IS resident than OOS. UVA is very hard as OOS.



The reverse is true because OOS pay much more. It is far more difficult to get into UVA and some of the other VA state universities if you are applying from FCPS. UVA will take only a select few from Langley, Mclean, etc. If you are applying from other, more rural parts of the state of VA you are OK.


That is a myth about admissions from NOVA.


Agreed. If you look at the admissions numbers, the number from NoVa are in line w/ the numbers from the rest of the state. It's possible that the NoVa students have higher stats, but they're certainly not getting rejected in higher proportions.

From : http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/does-uva-have-a-quota-for-northern-virginia-admissions/2013/11/25/559685ba-557b-11e3-835d-e7173847c7cc_story.html

"The acceptance rate for in-state students is about 40 percent, compared to about 20 percent for out-of-state students, McCance said.

According to data maintained by the State Council of Higher Education for Virginia, the acceptance rate in 2012-2013 for Fairfax (which had 2,248 applicants) was 41 percent, for Loudoun (which had 678 applicants) was 36 percent, for Prince William County (which had 433 applicants) was 35 percent, and for Arlington (which had 298 applicants) was 41 percent.

Over the past five years, admissions rates ranged from 41 percent to 47 percent in Fairfax, from 36 to 44 percent in Loudoun, from 35 to 46 in Prince William, and from 41 to 47 percent in Arlington."


I don't know why you're attempted to deny the facts: coming from LHS/MHS, you need to be top 10%, over. 4.0 gpa, tons of APs, great test scores, activities, recommendations etc etc. to get into UVA. The UVA admissions dept tells NVa parents outright that the admissions break will go to the kid outside of this area. It's just a fact.



I agree with the bolded part above. You need a 4.6, extraordinary atheletic skills, or musical talent, lots of AP courses, great letters, and a "passion". Only 13 in my DS's class from Langley went to UVA. We didn't even bother to apply. The competition from Langley is fierce and UVA is on going to take the top of the top. BTW, my DS's class had 70 valedictorians. What? you ask. That kids who get grades over a 4.0. In my day there was one. The No. Va kids really get screwed in this competition for state slots.


Then move to Grundy and apply.


We knew a family that actually did this. DD was above average, but not top 10%. Moved to Danville after DD's sophmore year. DD got accepted to UVA. Much easier to get in from ROVA.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2014 14:08     Subject: I live in MD and DH lives in VA

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Anonymous wrote:OOS students have it the worst.


OOS admission rates are much lower than in state because there are way more applicants for many fewer spots. The in state rate is actually something like 40%. OOS is closer tor 20%.

Kids from MoCo have even lower odds than the Langley kids.

Seems fair.


Right. It is a state school.


Though OOS students who are legacies have the same acceptance rate as in-state, and grad programs count


So what. They are legacies. Grad school counts? I didn't know that.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2014 13:02     Subject: I live in MD and DH lives in VA

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Anonymous wrote:From UVA website

Q: If my parents are divorced am I eligible for in-state educational privileges if I live outside of Virginia and my non-custodial parent lives in Virginia?
A: Yes, if the non-custodial parent contributes substantially to your support and is domiciled in Virginia.

http://www.virginia.edu/provost/vastatus/faqs.html


I wonder how you would prove substantial contributions?



We did this for DS. Ex proved it by claiming him on his taxes.


So your DS resided with you and attended a high school not in VA?


I was able to get in-state tuition to UVA law school (back when there was a huge difference between in-state and out-of-state) because my father paid for my college (private, in another state) and claimed me as a dependent. It wasn't questioned at all even though I had never lived in Virginia before.