Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 13:56     Subject: Re:Net Worth Disparity among whites and blacks/hispanics


and soon to support some adult children... shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves... intergenerational transfer


Has nothing to do with race. If part of the culture is wanting to help your kids--that's the way it works. It's not due to the color of your skin.




Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 13:41     Subject: Re:Net Worth Disparity among whites and blacks/hispanics

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Wealth is highly dependent for most people on intergenerational transfer.


You really believe that? Really? All white people have inheritances? Really? Wish somebody had told that to my grandparents.






Wish that had applied to me. First generation to go to college and now part of 1% and supporting two sets of parents.


and soon to support some adult children... shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves... intergenerational transfer
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 13:40     Subject: Re:Net Worth Disparity among whites and blacks/hispanics

Anonymous wrote:

no culture respects formal education more than asian-americans do but they are behind whites by 20-30k in median household wealth.


I think if you left the Vietnamese out, you would find different results.







Why would you leave them out? Are they not Asian
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 13:38     Subject: Net Worth Disparity among whites and blacks/hispanics

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Although certainly not the only reason, at this point a large reason is culture and the degree to which formal education is respected within a culture. There are, of course, historical reasons for this.


no culture respects formal education more than asian-americans do but they are behind whites by 20-30k in median household wealth.


Did you really just group all asian-americans as one culture???


People group Blacks as one culture, Whites as one culture, why not Asians. JA
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 13:28     Subject: Net Worth Disparity among whites and blacks/hispanics

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Although certainly not the only reason, at this point a large reason is culture and the degree to which formal education is respected within a culture. There are, of course, historical reasons for this.


no culture respects formal education more than asian-americans do but they are behind whites by 20-30k in median household wealth.


Did you really just group all asian-americans as one culture???


+1. Exactly how I feel when people talk about "the AA community."
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 13:26     Subject: Net Worth Disparity among whites and blacks/hispanics

Anonymous wrote:I am white and I got nothing from my parents and grew up with a single (divorced) mom. The only reason I have a nice lifestyle now, despite going to college (loans), is because I married well.



Ummm...you realize that the bolded part undercuts the first part? You may have not had inter-generational wealth but you married someone who did. And that relative wealth will pass to your children. That's one of the points of the article.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 13:08     Subject: Re:Net Worth Disparity among whites and blacks/hispanics

Anonymous wrote:

ADC was for white women. They had to fight in the civil rights movement to get it for blacks. ADC held a requirement that families be "suitable", and blacks were not suitable.


myth




No it's not. Lopata & Brehm, 1986

Care to show your source?
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 11:23     Subject: Re:Net Worth Disparity among whites and blacks/hispanics

Anonymous wrote:

no culture respects formal education more than asian-americans do but they are behind whites by 20-30k in median household wealth.


I think if you left the Vietnamese out, you would find different results.







I don't think so. Wealth held on an population basis is very time dependent, regardless of how many high earning indian or chinese doctors, engineers, financiers, and consultants there are.

And for all of them, there are more jewish-americans (who in most of these studies are listed in the 'white non-hispanic' category) who earn as well but also have been here multiple generations, thereby really boosting wealth.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 11:21     Subject: Net Worth Disparity among whites and blacks/hispanics

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Although certainly not the only reason, at this point a large reason is culture and the degree to which formal education is respected within a culture. There are, of course, historical reasons for this.


no culture respects formal education more than asian-americans do but they are behind whites by 20-30k in median household wealth.


Did you really just group all asian-americans as one culture???
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 11:16     Subject: Re:Net Worth Disparity among whites and blacks/hispanics


no culture respects formal education more than asian-americans do but they are behind whites by 20-30k in median household wealth.


I think if you left the Vietnamese out, you would find different results.





Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 11:14     Subject: Net Worth Disparity among whites and blacks/hispanics

Anonymous wrote:Although certainly not the only reason, at this point a large reason is culture and the degree to which formal education is respected within a culture. There are, of course, historical reasons for this.


no culture respects formal education more than asian-americans do but they are behind whites by 20-30k in median household wealth.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 11:12     Subject: Net Worth Disparity among whites and blacks/hispanics

Anonymous wrote:I am white and I got nothing from my parents and grew up with a single (divorced) mom. The only reason I have a nice lifestyle now, despite going to college (loans), is because I married well.


you got your looks from your parents, which definitely help generally when it comes to 'marrying well'
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 11:03     Subject: Re:Net Worth Disparity among whites and blacks/hispanics


ADC was for white women. They had to fight in the civil rights movement to get it for blacks. ADC held a requirement that families be "suitable", and blacks were not suitable.


myth




Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 10:59     Subject: Re:Net Worth Disparity among whites and blacks/hispanics

Anonymous wrote:Summary: Fifty years ago AAs were making laudable advancements. From 1900 to 1954, blacks were more active than whites in the labor market. Until about 1960, black male labor force participation in every age group was equal to or greater than that of whites … As early as 1900, the duration of black unemployment was 15 percent shorter than that of whites; today it’s about 30 percent longer.The poverty rate among black families fell from 87 percent in 1940 to 47 percent in 1960, during an era of virtually no major civil rights legislation or anti-poverty programs … In various skilled trades, the incomes of blacks relative to whites more than doubled between 1936 and 1959.

In fact, from 1890 to 1940, the black marriage rate was slightly higher than that of whites. In 1950, only 9 percent of black families with children were headed by a single parent (today, roughly two-thirds of black children are now raised in single-parent families).

In the past fifty years society has progressed and the black community has been in backslide. This must mean racism is not the main contributing factor to the black community’s current ills.

What happened? Lyndon B. Johnson’s 1960s-era big government happened. Welfare laws were constructed that didn’t view black men and women as human beings in the image of God, but as useless children and at best tools for political gain.

Laws like the Davis Bacon Act, which barred federal contracts from paying less than union wages, pushed black men out of federally funded or -financed construction jobs at the behest of white unions; segregated public housing pushed blacks into inner-city ghettos where poverty was concentrated and its impact worsened; government handouts punished those who tried to work; and, most evil of all, men who had limited employment prospects were offered a way to feed their families via the federal government—as long as they packed up and left.

This is why American leftists salivate over Ferguson. The Ferguson tragedy allows them to perpetuate the lie that failure in the black community is caused by racism, not a bloated federal government. If race tensions ceased, blacks might discover the Left as the sole engineer of the black community’s current condition. Worse for the Left, many blacks might discover the true face of the conservatism.

Dr. Martin Luther King’s dream was an America that judged blacks by the content of their character, not their skin color. For that to happen, we need economic equality among blacks and whites. Yet economic equity will only happen when the government gets out of the way and allows blacks to rise according to their own God-given talents.

Here is a short collection of policies, which Democrats largely oppose (aside from No. 4), that would help stop government from keeping black people down.

1. Help Broken Families
Programs that pay out more when dad is not around should be changed so that poor married couples receive an added benefit for being married. Taxes that penalize marriage among the poor should be scrapped. Don’t cut aid to single mothers, but raise aid to poor married couples. The states can start by looking at childcare and medical assistance programs. The federal government can immediately reform the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) so that the credit pays out more when dad sticks around.

2. Expand Labor Market Participation
The current push to raise the minimum wage is nothing more than another handout to unions, who don’t make minimum wage but receive wages indexed to the minimum wage. The group of people hurt most by minimum-wage laws are not business owners or fast-food consumers, but young black men, who find themselves the first to get priced out of the labor market. These entry-level jobs are important because they teach skills that allow a higher salary later in life. A better policy would be the expansion of the EITC, or replacing it with a similar measure that tops up the pay of the working poor.

There are many other policies that can help people get off the streets and into jobs. Barriers to entry for poor unskilled workers embodied in state licensure laws should be significantly reduced or done away with altogether. Congress should pass Rand Paul and Corey Booker’s plan to allow non-violent felons to seek jobs without disclosing their felony. America should allow more energy exploration on federal land. North Dakota is a boon to job-seekers only because its energy reserve largely sits upon private land. And Paul’s plan for economic freedom zones within urban areas (such as Detroit) should be implemented immediately

Improve Education Quality
The recent court case out of California proves what we’ve always known—teacher tenure hurts kids, and minority kids worst of all. Schools in wealthy areas face competition because wealthy parents have time and money to send their children to a private school if the public school underperforms. Poor area schools do not face this competition. Poor parents working several jobs and many long hours don’t have the time to even drive their child elsewhere, let alone pay for a different school. That’s why it’s time to put school choice in the hands of parents and students, through a school voucher program that—with a few safeguards—allowed competition in K-12 education.

At the state level, licensure laws that prevent professionals from teaching K-12 courses should be scrapped. These laws also serve teachers unions, not students.

4. End the Drug War
Young black men growing up in poor communities face a stark choice: Either they remain in low-performing high school, or they drop out of school and sell narcotics, making more money than their families have ever seen. This is partly why there is a race disparity in incarceration rates for drug-crimes. Worse, the young men caught selling drugs are sent to prison as nonviolent offenders, and leave prison violent and with limited opportunities.

Liberal-minded states like Colorado and Washington legalized pot to grow state revenue. High pot taxes mean the cartels and street violence stick around (because the shadow market still exists). Only conservatives will legalize marijuana for the sole purpose of breaking the back of the cartels, without mind to growing government.

The Democrats offer blacks top-down redistributive solutions that seem to assume blacks can’t make it without the government, although these offer blacks nothing more than a permanent position in the underclass, and a permanent position in the grievance wing of the Democrat Party. Conservatives offer blacks something so much better: Prosperity. That’s the fruition of King’s dream.


I know for a fact the bolded is true. I was forced to prosecute a woman who received AFDC for theft. Her crime, she worked at Wendy's and received $five thousand dollars. She was made to go on probation for three years, at $40 a month, and pay back the $5000 to the state. She now has a felony on her record. What this did was told her that she should never try to get out of poverty and rely on government handouts. She was trying to make some cash to get out of AFDC, but got causght. I alwys hated that case and terribly regret my part in the extra misery I caused in her life.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2014 10:53     Subject: Net Worth Disparity among whites and blacks/hispanics

Although certainly not the only reason, at this point a large reason is culture and the degree to which formal education is respected within a culture. There are, of course, historical reasons for this.