Anonymous
09/03/2014 12:13
Subject: What aspects of various religions concern you
Anonymous wrote:I can't ascribe to the belief of confession of sins before a priest.
Confirmed Catholic, now Bible-believing Christian here.
In regards to Catholics not being Christian. Yes, they follow and believe in Christ, but are Catholics first. Christian implies that you are a follower of Christ (or born again, or saved or have asked Jesus into your heart) and have a personal relationship with Jesus. I'm a Christian first, a Protestant second.
Well, you don't believe ALL of the bible though, do you?
Specifically, you don't believe the 20th Chapter of John's Gospel. Jesus explicitly give the apostles the authority to forgive (or not) the sins of others. Logically this would have to be an authority that would not die out with the twelve. What could Jesus possibly mean to do if he was just giving this authority to one group of twelve who would be gone from the earth in about 45 years, most much before that. It is very obviously Jesus giving the authority to leaders of the Church to forgive sins.
There are lots of "Catholic" passages that so many of you so-called bible belivers don't actually believe. Your conventional wisdom is that the Catholic Church just made up a bunch of stuff. If you talk with a Catholic who actually reads the bible a lot, you will find that there is scripture that supports what we believe.
Anonymous
09/03/2014 12:12
Subject: What aspects of various religions concern you
Anonymous wrote:I am not a troll . I'm a proud Christian and being called an atheist is probably one of the worst things I've ever been called. Maybe I'm just too sensitive but it really hurt me. I would be offended to be called anything I wasn't ,yes being called a Jew or catholic would offend me. I am a Christian. I am not trying to derail the thread, just defend myself.
And, as a Jew, this is what worries me about some Christians...the fundamentalists at least.
Anonymous
09/03/2014 12:00
Subject: What aspects of various religions concern you
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am not a troll . I'm a proud Christian and being called an atheist is probably one of the worst things I've ever been called. Maybe I'm just too sensitive but it really hurt me. I would be offended to be called anything I wasn't ,yes being called a Jew or catholic would offend me. I am a Christian. I am not trying to derail the thread, just defend myself.
I am not the poster you are responding to, but you do realize that Catholics are Christians, right? Since you are talking about sensitivities and being offended, you should know that it is offensive to Catholics if you think they are not Christians. A totally different denomination, but Catholics are by any definintion Christians.
Yes someone once told me that. But as a Christian I don't want to be called anything but a Christian.
Well, there are varioius Christian denominations. You obviously have a preference for the generic term. I think the vast majority of Christians do not really mind being identified with their denominations. I know Baptists, who do not mind being called a Baptist, and Methodists who don't mind being called a Methodist. Catholics don't mind being called Catholics. But all three of those denominations are, of course, Christian denominations. It is entirely appropriate to refer to each by either term.
It comes across that you have very little familiarity with Catholicism. Don't be afraid to talk with us. Lots of us are really nice people.
Anonymous
09/03/2014 11:51
Subject: What aspects of various religions concern you
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Roman Catholics: prayers for the repose of souls. Prayers for souls in purgatory. Purgatory. Lighting candles, saying a prayer and putting a quarter in a coin slot to make a faux candle burn for a few minutes. Priests taking the vow of celibacy. Confession. Annulments (especially odd is when the couple has been married for decades, has adult children).
Lighting candles bothers you? You think candles, wax or otherwise, should be free? Welcome, Anti-Catholic Bigot, to OP's anti-religion hate thread!
Heck yes, the candle should be free. The Catholic Church is sitting on piles of money. All that gold stolen from the Americas. Marble tombs. They are nickel-and-diming you, and you've been well-trained to not recognize the hypocrisy.
That's my post and I'm definitely not Catholic. But, I can reason and make sensible arguments, unlike you, dear troll. You do realize that you're talking about centuries-old history, and that many Catholic Churches are struggling today, right?
Anonymous
09/03/2014 11:51
Subject: What aspects of various religions concern you
I can't ascribe to the belief of confession of sins before a priest.
Confirmed Catholic, now Bible-believing Christian here.
In regards to Catholics not being Christian. Yes, they follow and believe in Christ, but are Catholics first. Christian implies that you are a follower of Christ (or born again, or saved or have asked Jesus into your heart) and have a personal relationship with Jesus. I'm a Christian first, a Protestant second.
Confirmed Catholic, now Bible-believing Christian here.
In regards to Catholics not being Christian. Yes, they follow and believe in Christ, but are Catholics first. Christian implies that you are a follower of Christ (or born again, or saved or have asked Jesus into your heart) and have a personal relationship with Jesus. I'm a Christian first, a Protestant second.
Anonymous
09/03/2014 11:38
Subject: What aspects of various religions concern you
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Roman Catholics: prayers for the repose of souls. Prayers for souls in purgatory. Purgatory. Lighting candles, saying a prayer and putting a quarter in a coin slot to make a faux candle burn for a few minutes. Priests taking the vow of celibacy. Confession. Annulments (especially odd is when the couple has been married for decades, has adult children).
Lighting candles bothers you? You think candles, wax or otherwise, should be free? Welcome, Anti-Catholic Bigot, to OP's anti-religion hate thread!
Heck yes, the candle should be free. The Catholic Church is sitting on piles of money. All that gold stolen from the Americas. Marble tombs. They are nickel-and-diming you, and you've been well-trained to not recognize the hypocrisy.
Anonymous
09/03/2014 11:35
Subject: What aspects of various religions concern you
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am not a troll . I'm a proud Christian and being called an atheist is probably one of the worst things I've ever been called. Maybe I'm just too sensitive but it really hurt me. I would be offended to be called anything I wasn't ,yes being called a Jew or catholic would offend me. I am a Christian. I am not trying to derail the thread, just defend myself.
I am not the poster you are responding to, but you do realize that Catholics are Christians, right? Since you are talking about sensitivities and being offended, you should know that it is offensive to Catholics if you think they are not Christians. A totally different denomination, but Catholics are by any definintion Christians.
Yes someone once told me that. But as a Christian I don't want to be called anything but a Christian.
Anonymous
09/03/2014 11:31
Subject: What aspects of various religions concern you
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am not a troll . I'm a proud Christian and being called an atheist is probably one of the worst things I've ever been called. Maybe I'm just too sensitive but it really hurt me. I would be offended to be called anything I wasn't ,yes being called a Jew or catholic would offend me. I am a Christian. I am not trying to derail the thread, just defend myself.
I am not the poster you are responding to, but you do realize that Catholics are Christians, right? Since you are talking about sensitivities and being offended, you should know that it is offensive to Catholics if you think they are not Christians. A totally different denomination, but Catholics are by any definintion Christians.
NP. I know a lot of Fundies who don't consider Catholicism to be a true Christian religion.
Anonymous
09/03/2014 10:53
Subject: What aspects of various religions concern you
Anonymous wrote:I am not a troll . I'm a proud Christian and being called an atheist is probably one of the worst things I've ever been called. Maybe I'm just too sensitive but it really hurt me. I would be offended to be called anything I wasn't ,yes being called a Jew or catholic would offend me. I am a Christian. I am not trying to derail the thread, just defend myself.
I am not the poster you are responding to, but you do realize that Catholics are Christians, right? Since you are talking about sensitivities and being offended, you should know that it is offensive to Catholics if you think they are not Christians. A totally different denomination, but Catholics are by any definintion Christians.
Anonymous
09/03/2014 10:22
Subject: What aspects of various religions concern you
I am not a troll . I'm a proud Christian and being called an atheist is probably one of the worst things I've ever been called. Maybe I'm just too sensitive but it really hurt me. I would be offended to be called anything I wasn't ,yes being called a Jew or catholic would offend me. I am a Christian. I am not trying to derail the thread, just defend myself.
Anonymous
09/03/2014 09:58
Subject: What aspects of various religions concern you
Anonymous wrote:Roman Catholics: prayers for the repose of souls. Prayers for souls in purgatory. Purgatory. Lighting candles, saying a prayer and putting a quarter in a coin slot to make a faux candle burn for a few minutes. Priests taking the vow of celibacy. Confession. Annulments (especially odd is when the couple has been married for decades, has adult children).
Read 2Tim, Chap1. Paul prays for the deceased Onesiphorus. There is also some clear scripture in Maccabees, but I realize most protestants do not recognize it as part of the canon of scripture.
Anonymous
09/03/2014 09:49
Subject: What aspects of various religions concern you
Anonymous wrote:the Catholic belief in transubstantiation bothers me.
It's so crazy that so many otherwise thinking intelligent people could accept this - and go nuts when they hear about a consecrated host being taken from a church.
They think the living Christ has been kidnapped.
You should carefully read the sixth chapter of the Gospel Of John. The Bread of Life Discourse pertains to this precise belief. Jesus was very explicit in telling his followers that his flesh was the "bread of life". The scripture indicates this teaching was hard for many to understand and accept, so Jesus carefully repeated what he was saying. Though I am no hermaneutics expert, those who are point out that the original Greek does NOT use metaphorical language here. It is literal. The text describes how some of his followers, who were apparently true believers, ultimately could not accept this teaching and they "went away". This is the first recorded schism. In Acts of the Apostles, the language is clear that the early church leaders, Peter mostly, were quite adamant about continuing the teaching of Jesus on this precise message.
It is a choice not to believe this. But it makes it difficult to say you "believe in the bible" if you want to throw out pretty much an entire chapter of one of the Gospels just because the point discussed by Jesus is a difficult one for a person to accept.
Anonymous
09/03/2014 08:34
Subject: What aspects of various religions concern you
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.
not you're not -- more likely you're a trouble-making atheist trying to make Christians look bad for some of their old practices still in the Good Book which nobody pays attention to anymore.
I'm speechless, you are a sick person to say that . I'm in no way an atheist. I'm a biblical Christian as I call it, because I believe what the bible says.
You need to read it more closely. But then, if you are what you say you are, you shouldn't be reading at all.
Read what more clearly? I was called an atheist, I take huge offense to that. Yes I know how to read, yes I went to college and I will have to take that up with God. If I burn in hell for it there is nothing I can do but ask for forgiveness.
Not to derail this thread, but why is being called an atheist offensive? If someone called you a Muslim or a Jew, would that be offensive? Why is it OK to be offended by accusations of atheism?
That was a troll claiming that calling him/her an atheist is offensive. The troll needs to go away - s/he's not funny, just boring, and s/he's deliberately derailing the thread.
Although, s/he is inspiring me to a "concerns about atheists" statement about their frequent trollish and, let's be frank here, dumb behavior.
Anonymous
09/03/2014 08:09
Subject: What aspects of various religions concern you
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.
not you're not -- more likely you're a trouble-making atheist trying to make Christians look bad for some of their old practices still in the Good Book which nobody pays attention to anymore.
I'm speechless, you are a sick person to say that . I'm in no way an atheist. I'm a biblical Christian as I call it, because I believe what the bible says.
You need to read it more closely. But then, if you are what you say you are, you shouldn't be reading at all.
Read what more clearly? I was called an atheist, I take huge offense to that. Yes I know how to read, yes I went to college and I will have to take that up with God. If I burn in hell for it there is nothing I can do but ask for forgiveness.
Not to derail this thread, but why is being called an atheist offensive? If someone called you a Muslim or a Jew, would that be offensive? Why is it OK to be offended by accusations of atheism?
Anonymous
09/03/2014 06:54
Subject: What aspects of various religions concern you
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, you're nothing if not ambitious, starting a thread that bashes ALL religions! I'm gonna make a guess here, that you're an atheist trying to have a little fun. Right?
I am an atheist, but I am not trying to have fun. I thought that the thread could stay level headed.
I started the thread about nice aspects of other religions.
Yeah, right.