Anonymous
09/08/2014 13:45
Subject: Not being in Math 4/5?
The father in the opinion really sounds nuts.
Anonymous
09/08/2014 13:43
Subject: Not being in Math 4/5?
The opinion does a good job of explaining the criteria. I don't think I had read previously that 90% on InView quantitative reasoning was required. Are all kids who score that high tested?
Anonymous
09/08/2014 13:37
Subject: Not being in Math 4/5?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There has already been a court case.
http://marylandpublicschools.org/MSDE/stateboard/legalopinions/2010/docs/PhilipP.Opin.No.14-39.pdf
How very, very Montgomery County.
How so? From what I've read, it sounds like they tried really hard to accommodate the parent by even bringing in an outside specialist to test the kid. I think the selection is definitely not what we are used to in that it's not soley based on whether a kid can do higher math problems, because in all honesty, a kid can do higher math problems by learning them rote. That doesn't mean the kid should be in advanced math.
I apologize. What I meant is: how very, very Montgomery County that a parent hired a lawyer and sued over this.
ohhhhh.. yea, I'm guessing the parent is a lawyer.
Anonymous
09/08/2014 13:35
Subject: Not being in Math 4/5?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There has already been a court case.
http://marylandpublicschools.org/MSDE/stateboard/legalopinions/2010/docs/PhilipP.Opin.No.14-39.pdf
How very, very Montgomery County.
How so? From what I've read, it sounds like they tried really hard to accommodate the parent by even bringing in an outside specialist to test the kid. I think the selection is definitely not what we are used to in that it's not soley based on whether a kid can do higher math problems, because in all honesty, a kid can do higher math problems by learning them rote. That doesn't mean the kid should be in advanced math.
I apologize. What I meant is: how very, very Montgomery County that a parent hired a lawyer and sued over this.
Anonymous
09/08/2014 13:32
Subject: Not being in Math 4/5?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There has already been a court case.
http://marylandpublicschools.org/MSDE/stateboard/legalopinions/2010/docs/PhilipP.Opin.No.14-39.pdf
How very, very Montgomery County.
How so? From what I've read, it sounds like they tried really hard to accommodate the parent by even bringing in an outside specialist to test the kid. I think the selection is definitely not what we are used to in that it's not soley based on whether a kid can do higher math problems, because in all honesty, a kid can do higher math problems by learning them rote. That doesn't mean the kid should be in advanced math.
Anonymous
09/08/2014 13:27
Subject: Not being in Math 4/5?
Anonymous wrote:There has already been a court case.
http://marylandpublicschools.org/MSDE/stateboard/legalopinions/2010/docs/PhilipP.Opin.No.14-39.pdf
How very, very Montgomery County.
Anonymous
09/08/2014 12:46
Subject: Not being in Math 4/5?
There has already been a court case.
http://marylandpublicschools.org/MSDE/stateboard/legalopinions/2010/docs/PhilipP.Opin.No.14-39.pdf
http://marylandpublicschools.org/MSDE/stateboard/legalopinions/2010/docs/PhilipP.Opin.No.14-39.pdf
Anonymous
09/08/2014 12:45
Subject: Re:Not being in Math 4/5?
Did your principal provide this explanation before selection started in the fall or afterwards? At our school there was no notification that selection was going on. I was lucky to ask about it and pushed to have DS tested. He scored high and got in. I doubt his teacher would have picked him.
Anonymous
09/08/2014 12:39
Subject: Not being in Math 4/5?
PP hear, I mean its not secret.
Anonymous
09/08/2014 12:38
Subject: Not being in Math 4/5?
The selection is secret based on teacher selection. Our principal presented the formula at a PTA meeting last year, its pretty involved and looked pretty fair to me.
Anonymous
09/08/2014 12:37
Subject: Re:Not being in Math 4/5?
Anonymous wrote:MCPS is going to have to allow parents to request testing in the future not just do it in secret based on teacher selection. Teacher bias is a problem but at the same time math scores are not going to fall out 50% F / 50% M and equally among the various ethnic, SES, religions, races etc with such a small sampling at each school. It should vary from year to year and any attempt to lower the standards for one group to make the numbers look good would be a disaster.
Maybe but MCPS claims that the test is only factor for placement.
Anonymous
09/08/2014 12:36
Subject: Re:Not being in Math 4/5?
MCPS is going to have to allow parents to request testing in the future not just do it in secret based on teacher selection. Teacher bias is a problem but at the same time math scores are not going to fall out 50% F / 50% M and equally among the various ethnic, SES, religions, races etc with such a small sampling at each school. It should vary from year to year and any attempt to lower the standards for one group to make the numbers look good would be a disaster.
Anonymous
09/07/2014 18:33
Subject: Not being in Math 4/5?
I am surprised some people don't allow their kids to be bussed to middle school for compacted math. This is my 4th grade son's favorite part. He has made new friends on the bus and feels very special that gets to have a class at middle school. His teacher is very good and he is enjoying the experience after his first week. Reasonable change is good for kids. They learn to be flexible and experiences like riding a bus can make them more confident and independent.
Anonymous
09/07/2014 15:05
Subject: Not being in Math 4/5?
My child's 5th grade CM class (which has close to 30 students) has more girls than boys (but its close to even).
Anonymous
09/07/2014 15:03
Subject: Re:Not being in Math 4/5?
Wow, I assumed that was just a fluke in our school, our 5th grade CM class is 72% boys. I wonder what the county wide numbers are...