Anonymous
Post 08/20/2014 18:00     Subject: Lobbyist friend just told me his salary. Wow!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DH is a lobbyist and earns in this range. He's extremely good at his job and works incessantly so it is well earned.


I'm an elementary school principal at a Title I school. I'm very good at my job and work incessantly. Will you advocate for me to make $750K? Do you think I deserve it?


No. I don't think you deserve it.
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2014 17:58     Subject: Lobbyist friend just told me his salary. Wow!

Anonymous wrote:Oh goody! So you are now the judge of what is a cause worthy of a lobbyist and what is not? Lucky world to have you in it!

To paint all lobbyists with a broad brush is so typical of liberal hypocrites. You can claim the moral high ground and claim there's a difference when you work on behalf of one type of client vs. another. Whatever. You're an idiot.


Conservatives used to be the group pushing to limit government.

After Bush, Romney and Robert Francis "Bob" McDonnell the liberals have become the "hypocrites" that want to limit government.
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2014 17:47     Subject: Lobbyist friend just told me his salary. Wow!

Oh goody! So you are now the judge of what is a cause worthy of a lobbyist and what is not? Lucky world to have you in it!

To paint all lobbyists with a broad brush is so typical of liberal hypocrites. You can claim the moral high ground and claim there's a difference when you work on behalf of one type of client vs. another. Whatever. You're an idiot.
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2014 14:55     Subject: Lobbyist friend just told me his salary. Wow!

Anonymous wrote:Why is it soul selling to specialize in helping people advocate for their own interests? The Alzheimer's Assn has lobbyists. The Toy Makers Assn has lobbyists. The Boys and Girls Clubs of America has lobbyists. The World Wildlife Fund has lobbyists. The Obama White House has government-paid lobbyists!!! A whole office full of them whose only job - only job, people! - is to sell (advocate for) the President's agenda (or fight against stuff he opposes) on the Hill.

Are they all whores too? Even the tree huggers and Girl Scouts and Alzheimer's lobbyists?


Are you really so dense that you don't see the difference between a lobbyist who works to fund causes that benefit the common good, and a lobbyist who works to enrich private shareholders and business interests at the public's expense? Any of us could end up with Alzheimers; only those who hold stock in Mining companies benefit from the U.S. handing out lucrative mining rights for $5.
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2014 14:04     Subject: Lobbyist friend just told me his salary. Wow!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:About 10 years ago I was doing work for a federal agency that was asked to help a Congressional office craft the language for a law that most people have never heard of. One day, the draft of the language had two new sentences in it. They seemed innocuous; clarifying scope fuels that would be affected by the law.

Two years later, I learned that a lobbyist had gotten a staffer at the Congressman's office to add those two sentences added to the bill, which became law, which is now saving that industry over a billion dollars per year on their tax bill. It turns out that those two sentences were very specific and very important.

You figure out how to do that, you get the big bucks.


So basically a lobbyist is paid to screw the American people? I feel like this wasn't the framers intent.


Neither was high taxes, obozo care, and other ridiculous taxes


Love of god, we are paying lower taxes than at most times in our history. I love this tool: http://qz.com/74271/income-tax-rates-since-1913/
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2014 13:49     Subject: Lobbyist friend just told me his salary. Wow!

I don't know who wrote this wikipedia page but it outlines what I suspected: Lobbying was a big deal at the dawn of our country and the role of lobbying has been criticized by some framers while being protected by the first amendment (right to petition the government).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_lobbying_in_the_United_States

Anonymous
Post 08/20/2014 12:17     Subject: Lobbyist friend just told me his salary. Wow!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:About 10 years ago I was doing work for a federal agency that was asked to help a Congressional office craft the language for a law that most people have never heard of. One day, the draft of the language had two new sentences in it. They seemed innocuous; clarifying scope fuels that would be affected by the law.

Two years later, I learned that a lobbyist had gotten a staffer at the Congressman's office to add those two sentences added to the bill, which became law, which is now saving that industry over a billion dollars per year on their tax bill. It turns out that those two sentences were very specific and very important.

You figure out how to do that, you get the big bucks.


So basically a lobbyist is paid to screw the American people? I feel like this wasn't the framers intent.


Neither was high taxes, obozo care, and other ridiculous taxes


Actually, the Supreme Court kindly clarified for us that Obamacare is constitutional. Try again!
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2014 11:05     Subject: Lobbyist friend just told me his salary. Wow!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:About 10 years ago I was doing work for a federal agency that was asked to help a Congressional office craft the language for a law that most people have never heard of. One day, the draft of the language had two new sentences in it. They seemed innocuous; clarifying scope fuels that would be affected by the law.

Two years later, I learned that a lobbyist had gotten a staffer at the Congressman's office to add those two sentences added to the bill, which became law, which is now saving that industry over a billion dollars per year on their tax bill. It turns out that those two sentences were very specific and very important.

You figure out how to do that, you get the big bucks.


So basically a lobbyist is paid to screw the American people? I feel like this wasn't the framers intent.


Neither was high taxes, obozo care, and other ridiculous taxes
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2014 10:58     Subject: Lobbyist friend just told me his salary. Wow!

Anonymous wrote:Typical trade association pay. I work at one and out top people earn that. Slowly working my way up!

Firm lobbyists, especially the partners/managing directors make way over that. I like association life because my work hours are normal. I was at a firm for years but as a PP said I left the firm for my "normal" job (association) when I started having kids. Now I don't make 750 but expect to in about 5 years.


I work at a trade association and our high earners salaries are publicly reported. None of our lobbyists earn more than $300k (and I think that is excessive). We work for a large membership based professional association in the health care/scientific field.
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2014 08:22     Subject: Lobbyist friend just told me his salary. Wow!

Anonymous wrote:About 10 years ago I was doing work for a federal agency that was asked to help a Congressional office craft the language for a law that most people have never heard of. One day, the draft of the language had two new sentences in it. They seemed innocuous; clarifying scope fuels that would be affected by the law.

Two years later, I learned that a lobbyist had gotten a staffer at the Congressman's office to add those two sentences added to the bill, which became law, which is now saving that industry over a billion dollars per year on their tax bill. It turns out that those two sentences were very specific and very important.

You figure out how to do that, you get the big bucks.


So basically a lobbyist is paid to screw the American people? I feel like this wasn't the framers intent.
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2014 08:16     Subject: Lobbyist friend just told me his salary. Wow!

About 10 years ago I was doing work for a federal agency that was asked to help a Congressional office craft the language for a law that most people have never heard of. One day, the draft of the language had two new sentences in it. They seemed innocuous; clarifying scope fuels that would be affected by the law.

Two years later, I learned that a lobbyist had gotten a staffer at the Congressman's office to add those two sentences added to the bill, which became law, which is now saving that industry over a billion dollars per year on their tax bill. It turns out that those two sentences were very specific and very important.

You figure out how to do that, you get the big bucks.
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2014 23:05     Subject: Lobbyist friend just told me his salary. Wow!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DH is a lobbyist and earns in this range. He's extremely good at his job and works incessantly so it is well earned.


I'm an elementary school principal at a Title I school. I'm very good at my job and work incessantly. Will you advocate for me to make $750K? Do you think I deserve it?


Yes!!!


That's what the NEA is for! They have lobbyists. If they aren't representing your interests well, you should spearhead a change of leadership.


Sorry, but the NEA doesn't represent principals.


No they don't but AFSA does. It is part of the AFL-CIO. Big spender on lobbying.
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2014 22:49     Subject: Re:Lobbyist friend just told me his salary. Wow!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How do you get a job as a lobbyist? What kind of background/experience do you need?



I want to know this too, someone please answer this.


Hill/Agency experience.
Contacts.
Policy expertise
Ability (if in a firm setting) to monetize to attract clients


Low morality threshold
Ass kissing lips
Brown nose
No self respect
Willing to do anything for money

That's if you want to make $750k not be on the public interest side. On the PI side you'll make $75k.


What is the pi side? Only liberal to you right?
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2014 22:44     Subject: Lobbyist friend just told me his salary. Wow!

What does a lobbyist actually do ? What credentials do they need ?
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2014 22:37     Subject: Re:Lobbyist friend just told me his salary. Wow!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How do you get a job as a lobbyist? What kind of background/experience do you need?



I want to know this too, someone please answer this.


Hill/Agency experience.
Contacts.
Policy expertise
Ability (if in a firm setting) to monetize to attract clients


Low morality threshold
Ass kissing lips
Brown nose
No self respect
Willing to do anything for money

That's if you want to make $750k not be on the public interest side. On the PI side you'll make $75k.