Anonymous
Post 08/15/2014 21:51     Subject: s/o what are AA parents teaching their kids?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm seriously wondering. You know you are raising your kids in a country (world?) where there is skin color discrimination. I'd imagine the AAs reading on here are well-to-do -- do you teach them that the world should accept diversity and sing kumbaya? Because if I had an AA child -- esp a son -- I would tell him that if the cops stop him and ask him to do anything -- he does it. Even if it's dumb. Even if it accuses him unfairly or whatever. We will deal with "fixing" the situation later -- he just needs to make it out of the situation alive.

Why do so many AA young men have the view that they can and should stand up to the cops? Sure Michael Brown wasn't armed, but many black men of that age group are -- why would any cop give him the benefit of the doubt?? If they told him to get on the sidewalk -- why not get on the damn sidewalk? And why not teach AA boys to dress a bit more respectably instead of embracing the thus culture? I'm guessing someone walking around in jeans with a sports coat is a bit less likely to be harassed than someone in a hoodie.

I am sure DCUM will jump all over me, but I am genuinely curious. I am of a different profiled class and you better believe that at the airport and in gov't buildings -- I am on my best behavior; always carrying ID, polite even if I have to go through another damn security check for no reason, dressed professionally etc. I know my profiled class has created issues for the world -- I don't want to give anyone a reason to have an issue with me. Seems like AAs don't think that way.


REALLY?! We're not a monolithic group! I'm black and I agree with you 100%. I will not elaborate more on this discussion because people who think like me are demonized and called, "sellouts". However, I understand your logic.


REALLLYYY???
People change their BEHAVIOUR and style of dress because they are trying to save their lives!!!!!!
People are tooo damn lazy to realize that not all black or brown people are the same.
So black men often are forced to cater to the twisted logic and assumptions of the lazy mind that cannot tell the difference between a mugger and an MBA because they both have black skin.
Forget you!
If Mark Zuckerberg can wear a hoodie and jeans then my damn husband can too!!!!
Since when did the idea that criminals are the only ones who can wear certain things?!!!!
I guess white men can't wear a mustache because Hitler had one.
I guess white women can't name your white little boys Bernie because folks will assume they will be white collar fraudulent con men criminals.
I guess all the women with vaginas better put those away because the lady around the corner has one and she got raped last week.
Guess white boys cannot be named George and go to UVA and play lacrosse, unless he is a woman beating girlfriend murderer!!
You can go straight to a burning pit of Hades for even suggesting that honest, decent black people have to further minimize themselves, dishonor their own feelings, smile when they don't want to, dress a certain way, step out of their own f$$$$&& selves to make you feel comfortable enough to not assume he is not a nigger.


NP here -- This sums up everything that I think of AAs -- this is the sum total of why they as a race (doesn't matter if this lady is a millionaire) cannot get ahead. Too much anger. Too much of -- I am who I am. Too much concern about respect. Too much crying about unfairness.

+10000
How dare they expect to be treated with respect.
Stop cry in' and just be happy to go on niggerin'


+1. All kinds of immigrants from impoverished places have come to the US and made a life for themselves, yet AAs as a community can't figure it out. These are immigrants who often don't speak English, don't come from educated families, come here with just a few suitcases -- and yes quite often are black so they face skin color discrimination also.


The moment I hear the African Immigrant accent is the moment I relax.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2014 21:50     Subject: Re:s/o what are AA parents teaching their kids?

Anonymous wrote:Yes.

HUH?
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2014 21:48     Subject: Re:s/o what are AA parents teaching their kids?

Yes.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2014 21:48     Subject: Re:s/o what are AA parents teaching their kids?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ok racism is pointed out over and over again. What is the solution to it? Is there one?


The solution is for people to stop having racist beliefs and stop doing racist things.


"A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still."


OK, so it's impossible to end racism.

Also, black people shouldn't be angry about this.

Makes perfect sense.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2014 21:48     Subject: Re:s/o what are AA parents teaching their kids?

Anonymous wrote:"A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still."

If everyone stopped being racist what do you think would change about AA behavior?

Are you asking the millions of different, individual AA people what will change in their individual BEHAVIOUR??
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2014 21:46     Subject: Re:s/o what are AA parents teaching their kids?

"A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still."

If everyone stopped being racist what do you think would change about AA behavior?
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2014 21:45     Subject: s/o what are AA parents teaching their kids?

Ok, OK, we get it: black folks just have to stop being black, then people will stop being racist .
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2014 21:45     Subject: Re:s/o what are AA parents teaching their kids?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ok racism is pointed out over and over again. What is the solution to it? Is there one?


The solution is for people to stop having racist beliefs and stop doing racist things.


"A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still."
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2014 21:41     Subject: Re:s/o what are AA parents teaching their kids?

Anonymous wrote:

REALLLYYY???
People change their BEHAVIOUR and style of dress because they are trying to save their lives!!!!!!
People are tooo damn lazy to realize that not all black or brown people are the same.
So black men often are forced to cater to the twisted logic and assumptions of the lazy mind that cannot tell the difference between a mugger and an MBA because they both have black skin.
Forget you!
If Mark Zuckerberg can wear a hoodie and jeans then my damn husband can too!!!!
Since when did the idea that criminals are the only ones who can wear certain things?!!!!
I guess white men can't wear a mustache because Hitler had one.
I guess white women can't name your white little boys Bernie because folks will assume they will be white collar fraudulent con men criminals.
I guess all the women with vaginas better put those away because the lady around the corner has one and she got raped last week.
Guess white boys cannot be named George and go to UVA and play lacrosse, unless he is a woman beating girlfriend murderer!!
You can go straight to a burning pit of Hades for even suggesting that honest, decent black people have to further minimize themselves, dishonor their own feelings, smile when they don't want to, dress a certain way, step out of their own f$$$$&& selves to make you feel comfortable enough to not assume he is not a nigger.


This reminds me of the white teenagers who have tattoos all over their bodies, half shaved heads and piercings, and get mad at people for "staring" at them. Well, what did you expect if you make yourself look like that? If you choose to dress that way, you will pay the price--people will tare and think ill of you.

If you choose to dress in clothing associated with thugs, people will fear you. If you don't want this reaction. DON'T DRESS THIS WAY.

HUH??
Wearing a sweatshirt and some jeans is thuggish cause some dude wore it when he robbed a gas station?????
Jeans and a sweatshirt. How about not being so lazy as to associate that outfit with criminal BEHAVIOUR.
My DH sometimes wears turtlenecks, that does not make him Steve Jobs.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2014 21:40     Subject: s/o what are AA parents teaching their kids?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm seriously wondering. You know you are raising your kids in a country (world?) where there is skin color discrimination. I'd imagine the AAs reading on here are well-to-do -- do you teach them that the world should accept diversity and sing kumbaya? Because if I had an AA child -- esp a son -- I would tell him that if the cops stop him and ask him to do anything -- he does it. Even if it's dumb. Even if it accuses him unfairly or whatever. We will deal with "fixing" the situation later -- he just needs to make it out of the situation alive.

Why do so many AA young men have the view that they can and should stand up to the cops? Sure Michael Brown wasn't armed, but many black men of that age group are -- why would any cop give him the benefit of the doubt?? If they told him to get on the sidewalk -- why not get on the damn sidewalk? And why not teach AA boys to dress a bit more respectably instead of embracing the thus culture? I'm guessing someone walking around in jeans with a sports coat is a bit less likely to be harassed than someone in a hoodie.

I am sure DCUM will jump all over me, but I am genuinely curious. I am of a different profiled class and you better believe that at the airport and in gov't buildings -- I am on my best behavior; always carrying ID, polite even if I have to go through another damn security check for no reason, dressed professionally etc. I know my profiled class has created issues for the world -- I don't want to give anyone a reason to have an issue with me. Seems like AAs don't think that way.


REALLY?! We're not a monolithic group! I'm black and I agree with you 100%. I will not elaborate more on this discussion because people who think like me are demonized and called, "sellouts". However, I understand your logic.


REALLLYYY???
People change their BEHAVIOUR and style of dress because they are trying to save their lives!!!!!!
People are tooo damn lazy to realize that not all black or brown people are the same.
So black men often are forced to cater to the twisted logic and assumptions of the lazy mind that cannot tell the difference between a mugger and an MBA because they both have black skin.
Forget you!
If Mark Zuckerberg can wear a hoodie and jeans then my damn husband can too!!!!
Since when did the idea that criminals are the only ones who can wear certain things?!!!!
I guess white men can't wear a mustache because Hitler had one.
I guess white women can't name your white little boys Bernie because folks will assume they will be white collar fraudulent con men criminals.
I guess all the women with vaginas better put those away because the lady around the corner has one and she got raped last week.
Guess white boys cannot be named George and go to UVA and play lacrosse, unless he is a woman beating girlfriend murderer!!
You can go straight to a burning pit of Hades for even suggesting that honest, decent black people have to further minimize themselves, dishonor their own feelings, smile when they don't want to, dress a certain way, step out of their own f$$$$&& selves to make you feel comfortable enough to not assume he is not a nigger.



Seek therapy!
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2014 21:39     Subject: Re:s/o what are AA parents teaching their kids?

Anonymous wrote:Ok racism is pointed out over and over again. What is the solution to it? Is there one?


The solution is for people to stop having racist beliefs and stop doing racist things.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2014 21:37     Subject: Re:s/o what are AA parents teaching their kids?

Ok racism is pointed out over and over again. What is the solution to it? Is there one?
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2014 21:37     Subject: Re:s/o what are AA parents teaching their kids?



REALLLYYY???
People change their BEHAVIOUR and style of dress because they are trying to save their lives!!!!!!
People are tooo damn lazy to realize that not all black or brown people are the same.
So black men often are forced to cater to the twisted logic and assumptions of the lazy mind that cannot tell the difference between a mugger and an MBA because they both have black skin.
Forget you!
If Mark Zuckerberg can wear a hoodie and jeans then my damn husband can too!!!!
Since when did the idea that criminals are the only ones who can wear certain things?!!!!
I guess white men can't wear a mustache because Hitler had one.
I guess white women can't name your white little boys Bernie because folks will assume they will be white collar fraudulent con men criminals.
I guess all the women with vaginas better put those away because the lady around the corner has one and she got raped last week.
Guess white boys cannot be named George and go to UVA and play lacrosse, unless he is a woman beating girlfriend murderer!!
You can go straight to a burning pit of Hades for even suggesting that honest, decent black people have to further minimize themselves, dishonor their own feelings, smile when they don't want to, dress a certain way, step out of their own f$$$$&& selves to make you feel comfortable enough to not assume he is not a nigger.


This reminds me of the white teenagers who have tattoos all over their bodies, half shaved heads and piercings, and get mad at people for "staring" at them. Well, what did you expect if you make yourself look like that? If you choose to dress that way, you will pay the price--people will tare and think ill of you.

If you choose to dress in clothing associated with thugs, people will fear you. If you don't want this reaction. DON'T DRESS THIS WAY.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2014 21:36     Subject: s/o what are AA parents teaching their kids?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm seriously wondering. You know you are raising your kids in a country (world?) where there is skin color discrimination. I'd imagine the AAs reading on here are well-to-do -- do you teach them that the world should accept diversity and sing kumbaya? Because if I had an AA child -- esp a son -- I would tell him that if the cops stop him and ask him to do anything -- he does it. Even if it's dumb. Even if it accuses him unfairly or whatever. We will deal with "fixing" the situation later -- he just needs to make it out of the situation alive.

Why do so many AA young men have the view that they can and should stand up to the cops? Sure Michael Brown wasn't armed, but many black men of that age group are -- why would any cop give him the benefit of the doubt?? If they told him to get on the sidewalk -- why not get on the damn sidewalk? And why not teach AA boys to dress a bit more respectably instead of embracing the thus culture? I'm guessing someone walking around in jeans with a sports coat is a bit less likely to be harassed than someone in a hoodie.

I am sure DCUM will jump all over me, but I am genuinely curious. I am of a different profiled class and you better believe that at the airport and in gov't buildings -- I am on my best behavior; always carrying ID, polite even if I have to go through another damn security check for no reason, dressed professionally etc. I know my profiled class has created issues for the world -- I don't want to give anyone a reason to have an issue with me. Seems like AAs don't think that way.


REALLY?! We're not a monolithic group! I'm black and I agree with you 100%. I will not elaborate more on this discussion because people who think like me are demonized and called, "sellouts". However, I understand your logic.


REALLLYYY???
People change their BEHAVIOUR and style of dress because they are trying to save their lives!!!!!!
People are tooo damn lazy to realize that not all black or brown people are the same.
So black men often are forced to cater to the twisted logic and assumptions of the lazy mind that cannot tell the difference between a mugger and an MBA because they both have black skin.
Forget you!
If Mark Zuckerberg can wear a hoodie and jeans then my damn husband can too!!!!
Since when did the idea that criminals are the only ones who can wear certain things?!!!!
I guess white men can't wear a mustache because Hitler had one.
I guess white women can't name your white little boys Bernie because folks will assume they will be white collar fraudulent con men criminals.
I guess all the women with vaginas better put those away because the lady around the corner has one and she got raped last week.
Guess white boys cannot be named George and go to UVA and play lacrosse, unless he is a woman beating girlfriend murderer!!
You can go straight to a burning pit of Hades for even suggesting that honest, decent black people have to further minimize themselves, dishonor their own feelings, smile when they don't want to, dress a certain way, step out of their own f$$$$&& selves to make you feel comfortable enough to not assume he is not a nigger.



Bravo! You're acting just like a stereotype. Bob Marley once said, "Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds."

Exactly which stereotype?
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2014 21:33     Subject: s/o what are AA parents teaching their kids?

Anonymous wrote:

NP here -- This sums up everything that I think of AAs -- this is the sum total of why they as a race (doesn't matter if this lady is a millionaire) cannot get ahead. Too much anger. Too much of -- I am who I am. Too much concern about respect. Too much crying about unfairness.


Black people can't get ahead due to:

1. anger about racism
2. unwillingness to change to suit racists
3. a belief that people should treat all people with respect
4. pointing out racism

So all would be sunshine, roses, and millionaires if only black people would learn to be happy about racism, accept being treated as lesser, and never, ever, ever pointing out racism? How about that.