Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ignore them. No one can make her feel teased. Only she can.
PP here. BS. They should not be trying to embarrass the girl like this.
Why are so many of you calling this teasing? IT IS SEXUAL HARASSMENT. It's not high school. OP, if your daughter is okay with it, YOU go into the pool manager's office with her and tell the manager what is going on. Get these other kids fired. No second chances for this kind of abuse.
OMG have you never been teased for anything in your life? Call it sexual harassment or hostile workplace or whatever you will legally but it is 2 teens picking on another teen which has gone on since the dawn of time. As for it not being high school -- sure it's a workplace but frankly these high school jobs have a very high school vibe; this is not anyone's 40 hr a week for the rest of their life job.
How much time could she possibly have left this summer? A teen girl who goes to high school really doesn't know how to deal with being called a pig or a cow? She can't tell them to shut up or walk away and keep ignoring it or get a friend to stand up to them without mommy running to the office to have these boys fired? Btw -- this late in the summer, they won't be fired bc the pool won't want to hire new lifeguards. So then she'll not only be a cow but the one who tattled -- a much more enjoyable experience I'm sure.
I'm not sure how most of the people on DCUM made it to adulthood -- sensitive as they are. Around that age I got teased for being a tomboy. Nothing over the top, just comments whenever 2 boys walked by my locker. Rest assured my parents had no idea. Nor do I even remember the comments -- and 1 only remember one of the boys -- so it's not like this stuff leads to life long scarring.
Anonymous wrote:Why the secrecy about the animal?
Some people are so weird, that's you OP.
Is it a pig?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1. She need to tell them to stop so she feels empowered. It is as simple as "stop doing that".
2. If they don't stop, tell the manager.
3. Manager talks to boys, boys receive a lesson, poor boy behavior stops.
4. Everyone wins
What makes you think the behavior will stop when a 25 yr old manager tells a 17 yr old to stop?? The 17 yr old will act sorry to the boss and rest assured the behavior will continue. And add to the pig or cow comments will be all kinds of other tattletale stuff.
This is high school teasing pure and simple -- whether it's in a workplace or not. Not sure why everything on DCUM has to turn into a legal discussion but unless you're actually filing harassment charges all the ideas here about documenting or whatever are moronic. Tell the boys to STFU or have a friend do so or have a brother jump them in the parking lot. It may be a new day but these issues are age old and don't require THIS much angst.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1. She need to tell them to stop so she feels empowered. It is as simple as "stop doing that".
2. If they don't stop, tell the manager.
3. Manager talks to boys, boys receive a lesson, poor boy behavior stops.
4. Everyone wins
What makes you think the behavior will stop when a 25 yr old manager tells a 17 yr old to stop?? The 17 yr old will act sorry to the boss and rest assured the behavior will continue. And add to the pig or cow comments will be all kinds of other tattletale stuff.
This is high school teasing pure and simple -- whether it's in a workplace or not. Not sure why everything on DCUM has to turn into a legal discussion but unless you're actually filing harassment charges all the ideas here about documenting or whatever are moronic. Tell the boys to STFU or have a friend do so or have a brother jump them in the parking lot. It may be a new day but these issues are age old and don't require THIS much angst.
Anonymous wrote:1. She need to tell them to stop so she feels empowered. It is as simple as "stop doing that".
2. If they don't stop, tell the manager.
3. Manager talks to boys, boys receive a lesson, poor boy behavior stops.
4. Everyone wins
Anonymous wrote:Yes, sexual. She is being harassed because of her gender. If she were a boy, they wouldn't be doing this to her. The sexual doesn't refer only to explicit comments or groping.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How could harassing comments about the attractiveness or unattractiveness of somebody's body not be sexual harassment?
It would fall under a hostile work environment, not sexual harassment.
I am not a lawyer. But I think it's both.
Who knows, they could possibly be making fun of a big nose.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
OMG have you never been teased for anything in your life? Call it sexual harassment or hostile workplace or whatever you will legally but it is 2 teens picking on another teen which has gone on since the dawn of time. As for it not being high school -- sure it's a workplace but frankly these high school jobs have a very high school vibe; this is not anyone's 40 hr a week for the rest of their life job.
How much time could she possibly have left this summer? A teen girl who goes to high school really doesn't know how to deal with being called a pig or a cow? She can't tell them to shut up or walk away and keep ignoring it or get a friend to stand up to them without mommy running to the office to have these boys fired? Btw -- this late in the summer, they won't be fired bc the pool won't want to hire new lifeguards. So then she'll not only be a cow but the one who tattled -- a much more enjoyable experience I'm sure.
I'm not sure how most of the people on DCUM made it to adulthood -- sensitive as they are. Around that age I got teased for being a tomboy. Nothing over the top, just comments whenever 2 boys walked by my locker. Rest assured my parents had no idea. Nor do I even remember the comments -- and 1 only remember one of the boys -- so it's not like this stuff leads to life long scarring.
Yes, it has gone on since the dawn of time. And now it is illegal in the workplace. I consider that progress.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How could harassing comments about the attractiveness or unattractiveness of somebody's body not be sexual harassment?
It would fall under a hostile work environment, not sexual harrassment.
Same thing. Sexual harassment violates Title VII because it creates a hostile work environment. Duh.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:{From a teen (OP of "I'm 15..."))
Don't "tattletale" on the boys. This is such a hard situation, though. Usually the most effective way to get them to stop is if a friend stands up for her... Two against two is much better than two vs. one.
I thought I knew everything when I was a teenager, too. But you don't know anything about workplace harassment. It's illegal and reporting it will protect others who have been/will be harassed. Plus, the management can be sued back to the stoneage for allowing harassment.
Stick to answering questions about teenager stuff. This is a legal issue and it is pretty well defined what OP's daughter should do.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How could harassing comments about the attractiveness or unattractiveness of somebody's body not be sexual harassment?
It would fall under a hostile work environment, not sexual harassment.
I am not a lawyer. But I think it's both.
Anonymous wrote:{From a teen (OP of "I'm 15..."))
Don't "tattletale" on the boys. This is such a hard situation, though. Usually the most effective way to get them to stop is if a friend stands up for her... Two against two is much better than two vs. one.
Anonymous wrote:
OMG have you never been teased for anything in your life? Call it sexual harassment or hostile workplace or whatever you will legally but it is 2 teens picking on another teen which has gone on since the dawn of time. As for it not being high school -- sure it's a workplace but frankly these high school jobs have a very high school vibe; this is not anyone's 40 hr a week for the rest of their life job.
How much time could she possibly have left this summer? A teen girl who goes to high school really doesn't know how to deal with being called a pig or a cow? She can't tell them to shut up or walk away and keep ignoring it or get a friend to stand up to them without mommy running to the office to have these boys fired? Btw -- this late in the summer, they won't be fired bc the pool won't want to hire new lifeguards. So then she'll not only be a cow but the one who tattled -- a much more enjoyable experience I'm sure.
I'm not sure how most of the people on DCUM made it to adulthood -- sensitive as they are. Around that age I got teased for being a tomboy. Nothing over the top, just comments whenever 2 boys walked by my locker. Rest assured my parents had no idea. Nor do I even remember the comments -- and 1 only remember one of the boys -- so it's not like this stuff leads to life long scarring.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ignore them. No one can make her feel teased. Only she can.
PP here. BS. They should not be trying to embarrass the girl like this.
Why are so many of you calling this teasing? IT IS SEXUAL HARASSMENT. It's not high school. OP, if your daughter is okay with it, YOU go into the pool manager's office with her and tell the manager what is going on. Get these other kids fired. No second chances for this kind of abuse.