Anonymous
Post 08/07/2014 09:00     Subject: anyone actively participating in boycotting, divestment, sanction efforts agst Israel

I'm sure this boycott will work as well as the boycott against Chic-fil-a.

Americans have the attention spans of a nat.

GL on your boycotts.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2014 08:57     Subject: anyone actively participating in boycotting, divestment, sanction efforts agst Israel

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
well if your "god" promised you land and ensured that you were "the chosen people" then i guess you feel an entitlement

did god also say do not murder?


Self defense is not murder.


It's not self defense if you caused the war.

This confirms both the Gazans complaint about being starved out, as well as pointing out that the new post-coup Egyptian government colluded with Israel to create the conditions. Lastly it says that the US believed this incident to not be directed by Hamas and that Israel's own intelligence warned that their response could precipitate the backlash:

Unexpected candor from the Wall Street Journal.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=1&ved=0CB4QqQIoADAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticles%2Funlikely-alliance-between-israel-and-egypt-stoked-gaza-tension-1407379093&ei=kWjjU5e0MImBygTDqoLgCg&usg=AFQjCNF5pyyXJIYFNbP1HyzVLHVUb6u2AA&bvm=bv.72676100,d.aWw


Neither the US, Israel, nor Egypt forced Hamas to shoot 1000s of missiles at civilians in Israel. That's what started this war. Why Israel chose the timing of her response doesn't really matter. Regardless of how you think Israel handled the response, Hamas started the war. And Egypt destroyed smuggling tunnels under its own land and declining to have a relationship with a group it considers to be against its national interest, is also their prerogative and not instigation of war.


No. The missiles were a retaliation. You do not get to arbitrarily erase the events that preceded it. I'm tired of the narrative that these missiles just started firing off out of the blue, when we all read the papers for two weeks about what was going on beforehand and you have additional information in front of you.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2014 08:52     Subject: anyone actively participating in boycotting, divestment, sanction efforts agst Israel

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
well if your "god" promised you land and ensured that you were "the chosen people" then i guess you feel an entitlement

did god also say do not murder?


Self defense is not murder.


It's not self defense if you caused the war.

This confirms both the Gazans complaint about being starved out, as well as pointing out that the new post-coup Egyptian government colluded with Israel to create the conditions. Lastly it says that the US believed this incident to not be directed by Hamas and that Israel's own intelligence warned that their response could precipitate the backlash:

Unexpected candor from the Wall Street Journal.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=1&ved=0CB4QqQIoADAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticles%2Funlikely-alliance-between-israel-and-egypt-stoked-gaza-tension-1407379093&ei=kWjjU5e0MImBygTDqoLgCg&usg=AFQjCNF5pyyXJIYFNbP1HyzVLHVUb6u2AA&bvm=bv.72676100,d.aWw


Neither the US, Israel, nor Egypt forced Hamas to shoot 1000s of missiles at civilians in Israel. That's what started this war. Why Israel chose the timing of her response doesn't really matter. Regardless of how you think Israel handled the response, Hamas started the war. And Egypt destroyed smuggling tunnels under its own land and declining to have a relationship with a group it considers to be against its national interest, is also their prerogative and not instigation of war.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2014 07:55     Subject: anyone actively participating in boycotting, divestment, sanction efforts agst Israel

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
well if your "god" promised you land and ensured that you were "the chosen people" then i guess you feel an entitlement

did god also say do not murder?


Self defense is not murder.


It's not self defense if you caused the war.

This confirms both the Gazans complaint about being starved out, as well as pointing out that the new post-coup Egyptian government colluded with Israel to create the conditions. Lastly it says that the US believed this incident to not be directed by Hamas and that Israel's own intelligence warned that their response could precipitate the backlash:

Unexpected candor from the Wall Street Journal.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=1&ved=0CB4QqQIoADAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticles%2Funlikely-alliance-between-israel-and-egypt-stoked-gaza-tension-1407379093&ei=kWjjU5e0MImBygTDqoLgCg&usg=AFQjCNF5pyyXJIYFNbP1HyzVLHVUb6u2AA&bvm=bv.72676100,d.aWw
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2014 07:04     Subject: anyone actively participating in boycotting, divestment, sanction efforts agst Israel

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
well if your "god" promised you land and ensured that you were "the chosen people" then i guess you feel an entitlement

did god also say do not murder?


Self defense is not murder.
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2014 23:06     Subject: anyone actively participating in boycotting, divestment, sanction efforts agst Israel

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The boycott of South African wine and divestment by businesses and universities played a role in ending apartheid there. There is a ground swell of support for boycotting Israeli goods. Heck even the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is divesting.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.596344


Do you know what will happen if Israel falls? What's your take?


In theory I'd be very happy is most or all Israelis came here. But they might be too conservative for my taste.

In another note, it's really striking to me that people would both kill and die over land. Land. Human life has so little value.


well if your "god" promised you land and ensured that you were "the chosen people" then i guess you feel an entitlement

And here we have anti-semitism. Welcome to Jeff's world. Deluded as it is.


Hmmmmm... or he could be quoting David Ben Gurion.

How on earth is this anti-semitic?


Every group has its clown car.
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2014 22:49     Subject: anyone actively participating in boycotting, divestment, sanction efforts agst Israel

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The boycott of South African wine and divestment by businesses and universities played a role in ending apartheid there. There is a ground swell of support for boycotting Israeli goods. Heck even the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is divesting.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.596344


Do you know what will happen if Israel falls? What's your take?


In theory I'd be very happy is most or all Israelis came here. But they might be too conservative for my taste.

In another note, it's really striking to me that people would both kill and die over land. Land. Human life has so little value.


well if your "god" promised you land and ensured that you were "the chosen people" then i guess you feel an entitlement

And here we have anti-semitism. Welcome to Jeff's world. Deluded as it is.


Hmmmmm... or he could be quoting David Ben Gurion.

How on earth is this anti-semitic?
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2014 22:44     Subject: anyone actively participating in boycotting, divestment, sanction efforts agst Israel

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The boycott of South African wine and divestment by businesses and universities played a role in ending apartheid there. There is a ground swell of support for boycotting Israeli goods. Heck even the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is divesting.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.596344


Do you know what will happen if Israel falls? What's your take?


In theory I'd be very happy is most or all Israelis came here. But they might be too conservative for my taste.

In another note, it's really striking to me that people would both kill and die over land. Land. Human life has so little value.


well if your "god" promised you land and ensured that you were "the chosen people" then i guess you feel an entitlement

And here we have anti-semitism. Welcome to Jeff's world. Deluded as it is.


What is antisemitic about this?
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2014 22:23     Subject: anyone actively participating in boycotting, divestment, sanction efforts agst Israel

Anonymous wrote:
well if your "god" promised you land and ensured that you were "the chosen people" then i guess you feel an entitlement

did god also say do not murder?
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2014 22:04     Subject: anyone actively participating in boycotting, divestment, sanction efforts agst Israel

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The boycott of South African wine and divestment by businesses and universities played a role in ending apartheid there. There is a ground swell of support for boycotting Israeli goods. Heck even the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is divesting.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.596344


Do you know what will happen if Israel falls? What's your take?


In theory I'd be very happy is most or all Israelis came here. But they might be too conservative for my taste.

In another note, it's really striking to me that people would both kill and die over land. Land. Human life has so little value.


well if your "god" promised you land and ensured that you were "the chosen people" then i guess you feel an entitlement

And here we have anti-semitism. Welcome to Jeff's world. Deluded as it is.
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2014 20:07     Subject: anyone actively participating in boycotting, divestment, sanction efforts agst Israel

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Boycotting seems to scare a lot of people...

Good.


Yes, I noticed that. The other threads were largely ignored, but this one is getting a lot of nervous attention.


Nice try, Presbyterian Church.



Emotional much. This is the Achilles heel.


Huh?
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2014 17:32     Subject: anyone actively participating in boycotting, divestment, sanction efforts agst Israel

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The boycott of South African wine and divestment by businesses and universities played a role in ending apartheid there. There is a ground swell of support for boycotting Israeli goods. Heck even the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is divesting.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.596344


Do you know what will happen if Israel falls? What's your take?


In theory I'd be very happy is most or all Israelis came here. But they might be too conservative for my taste.

In another note, it's really striking to me that people would both kill and die over land. Land. Human life has so little value.


well if your "god" promised you land and ensured that you were "the chosen people" then i guess you feel an entitlement
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2014 16:28     Subject: Re:anyone actively participating in boycotting, divestment, sanction efforts agst Israel

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The boycott of South African wine and divestment by businesses and universities played a role in ending apartheid there. There is a ground swell of support for boycotting Israeli goods. Heck even the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is divesting.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.596344


Do you know what will happen if Israel falls? What's your take?

Peace will break out. I just hope we do not let the refugees in to this country. We have our own neoconservatives and do not need any more of their wars.


Like it is in the other Muslim countries?
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2014 15:53     Subject: Re:anyone actively participating in boycotting, divestment, sanction efforts agst Israel

jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If generics are so easy to make, why aren't they flooding in from other countries? And what of the non-generic life saving drugs? So you don't want to live in Israel, how about Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Iran , Jordan, Egypt, or any of the other wonderfully democratic nations over there?
.

India is making a lot of generics. Of course they mistreat their people also. But unlike Israel, they don't slaughter them wholesale after subjugating them to an open prison.


No, they just condone rape of 6 y.o.s as punishment for something their brother did.


Bigoted remark about a nation of a billon people. Absolutely the best way to win friends and influence people.



Sorry, I meant it sarcastically. Apparently, since the statement about Israel was only a bigoted remark about a nation of 7 million, it was ok.
jsteele
Post 08/06/2014 15:47     Subject: Re:anyone actively participating in boycotting, divestment, sanction efforts agst Israel

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If generics are so easy to make, why aren't they flooding in from other countries? And what of the non-generic life saving drugs? So you don't want to live in Israel, how about Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Iran , Jordan, Egypt, or any of the other wonderfully democratic nations over there?
.

India is making a lot of generics. Of course they mistreat their people also. But unlike Israel, they don't slaughter them wholesale after subjugating them to an open prison.


No, they just condone rape of 6 y.o.s as punishment for something their brother did.


Bigoted remark about a nation of a billon people. Absolutely the best way to win friends and influence people.