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Anonymous wrote:Compared to teachers, social workers, even nurses, you're making a mint. Why so much whining about the salary?

Teachers don't work the same hours as feds. They have summers and winter breaks.

Nurses are paid pretty well. My mom is a nurse and at part time she makes 80k.

Yes.

Teachers and nurses work far more hours and put in far more work than most feds. They do far more valuable work for the community at large than do most feds.

Did you really just go there?

This may be true of SOME federal workers, but if you really think this, you probably haven't every worked for a federal agency. I've worked for a federal agency for 22 years and frankly, the majority (I'd say around 75%) of my agency, NASA, works at least as hard or harder than teachers and do so all year round rather than just 10 months of the year with 2 weeks for Christmas and Spring break off. I have a couple of teacher friends on FB and frankly they whine and bitch and moan about having to go back to work after Spring break, having to cram to do work on the last night of the two week Christmas holiday because they didn't work the first 13 days or they grouse about having to go in to work on the day after the end of school to close down their room and compare it to the people in my agency who worked all of those days that the teachers had off, that work 60 hours a week, that have vacations canceled when flight missions change schedule. While I was working on Hubble, in 1999, we all lost Christmas vacations when due to bad weather and meteor showers, the shuttle launch had to be postponed until Dec 23. I worked 11pm to 9am on Christmas Eve to Christmas Day because I was single at the time and most of my team had kids and I let them all stay home with their kids. Lest you think this is rare, these types of changes happen all the time.

While I agree that teachers are underpaid, the concept that they work so much harder than the rest of the working world is just ludicrous and only makes teachers look whiny. I know several dozen teachers very well and they do NOT work harder than the federal workers at NASA.

Really? You're judging teachers based on a few FB posts. That's smart! SMH

I also included the bolded part. I belong to a club which includes several dozen teachers (plus knowing more through social groups) and I often spend time outside of work with them. I have a good feeling for what their work level is like compared to those who I know through work. I also hear their comments in person, not just those few on FB. Unless the teachers I know who work for AA, PG, Howard, Montgomery, Baltimore and Harford Counties are significantly different than their counterparts who are not involved in our club, they do not work harder than most NASA employees. But they do complain a lot more.

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Anonymous wrote:Compared to teachers, social workers, even nurses, you're making a mint. Why so much whining about the salary?

Teachers don't work the same hours as feds. They have summers and winter breaks.

Nurses are paid pretty well. My mom is a nurse and at part time she makes 80k.

Yes.

Teachers and nurses work far more hours and put in far more work than most feds. They do far more valuable work for the community at large than do most feds.

Did you really just go there?

This may be true of SOME federal workers, but if you really think this, you probably haven't every worked for a federal agency. I've worked for a federal agency for 22 years and frankly, the majority (I'd say around 75%) of my agency, NASA, works at least as hard or harder than teachers and do so all year round rather than just 10 months of the year with 2 weeks for Christmas and Spring break off. I have a couple of teacher friends on FB and frankly they whine and bitch and moan about having to go back to work after Spring break, having to cram to do work on the last night of the two week Christmas holiday because they didn't work the first 13 days or they grouse about having to go in to work on the day after the end of school to close down their room and compare it to the people in my agency who worked all of those days that the teachers had off, that work 60 hours a week, that have vacations canceled when flight missions change schedule. While I was working on Hubble, in 1999, we all lost Christmas vacations when due to bad weather and meteor showers, the shuttle launch had to be postponed until Dec 23. I worked 11pm to 9am on Christmas Eve to Christmas Day because I was single at the time and most of my team had kids and I let them all stay home with their kids. Lest you think this is rare, these types of changes happen all the time.

While I agree that teachers are underpaid, the concept that they work so much harder than the rest of the working world is just ludicrous and only makes teachers look whiny. I know several dozen teachers very well and they do NOT work harder than the federal workers at NASA.

Really? You're judging teachers based on a few FB posts. That's smart! SMH

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Anonymous wrote:Compared to teachers, social workers, even nurses, you're making a mint. Why so much whining about the salary?

Teachers don't work the same hours as feds. They have summers and winter breaks.

Nurses are paid pretty well. My mom is a nurse and at part time she makes 80k.

Yes.

Teachers and nurses work far more hours and put in far more work than most feds. They do far more valuable work for the community at large than do most feds.

Did you really just go there?

This may be true of SOME federal workers, but if you really think this, you probably haven't every worked for a federal agency. I've worked for a federal agency for 22 years and frankly, the majority (I'd say around 75%) of my agency, NASA, works at least as hard or harder than teachers and do so all year round rather than just 10 months of the year with 2 weeks for Christmas and Spring break off. I have a couple of teacher friends on FB and frankly they whine and bitch and moan about having to go back to work after Spring break, having to cram to do work on the last night of the two week Christmas holiday because they didn't work the first 13 days or they grouse about having to go in to work on the day after the end of school to close down their room and compare it to the people in my agency who worked all of those days that the teachers had off, that work 60 hours a week, that have vacations canceled when flight missions change schedule. While I was working on Hubble, in 1999, we all lost Christmas vacations when due to bad weather and meteor showers, the shuttle launch had to be postponed until Dec 23. I worked 11pm to 9am on Christmas Eve to Christmas Day because I was single at the time and most of my team had kids and I let them all stay home with their kids. Lest you think this is rare, these types of changes happen all the time.

While I agree that teachers are underpaid, the concept that they work so much harder than the rest of the working world is just ludicrous and only makes teachers look whiny. I know several dozen teachers very well and they do NOT work harder than the federal workers at NASA.

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Anonymous wrote:Compared to teachers, social workers, even nurses, you're making a mint. Why so much whining about the salary?

Teachers don't work the same hours as feds. They have summers and winter breaks.

Nurses are paid pretty well. My mom is a nurse and at part time she makes 80k.

Yes.

Teachers and nurses work far more hours and put in far more work than most feds. They do far more valuable work for the community at large than do most feds.

Did you really just go there?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Compared to teachers, social workers, even nurses, you're making a mint. Why so much whining about the salary?

Teachers don't work the same hours as feds. They have summers and winter breaks.

Nurses are paid pretty well. My mom is a nurse and at part time she makes 80k.

Yes.

Teachers and nurses work far more hours and put in far more work than most feds. They do far more valuable work for the community at large than do most feds.

Did you really just go there?

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Anonymous wrote:Huh? My husband could be making 750 or a million, yet he makes 220 as a fed with his education. That's why.

220? Hello, Mrs. Biden.

Uh, no. Try SEC, OCC, FDIC, FRB, CFPB, FHFA, FCA, NCUA.... there are plenty of fed agencies above the GS scale. Do a little research.

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Anonymous wrote:Compared to teachers, social workers, even nurses, you're making a mint. Why so much whining about the salary?

Teachers don't work the same hours as feds. They have summers and winter breaks.

Nurses are paid pretty well. My mom is a nurse and at part time she makes 80k.

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Anonymous wrote:Huh? My husband could be making 750 or a million, yet he makes 220 as a fed with his education. That's why.

220? Hello, Mrs. Biden.

Anonymous wrote:Huh? My husband could be making 750 or a million, yet he makes 220 as a fed with his education. That's why.

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Anonymous wrote:I do not believe that Feds are underpaid (or overpaid) in general. Some think they could earn more if they went to another employer but that is true for employees at every employer.

The government seems to have no trouble attracting applicants for open positions at current pay levels; the total package appears to be sufficient.

This is not universally true. It can be very difficult to find qualified people willing to accept a gov't salary in some of the more lucrative technical fields.

Which fields?

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Anonymous wrote:My office doesn't allow comp time or overtime; DH's office doesn't either. A previous agency we both worked at does. It guess it varies, but it's not a standard benefit by any means.

I work much more reasonable hours, but DH puts in a lot of extra (uncompensated) time; as soon as he gets home, he turns on his computer to keep an eye on things and then works once the kids go to bed until 11pm. He does this on weekends too and it's starting to affect our marriage. The one consolation is that I know he doesn't enjoy working the extra hours so it's not like he's doing it to avoid family life.

What does he do that he has to put in so much extra time and keep an eye on things after hours?