Anonymous
Post 07/16/2014 16:17     Subject: Re:WES or St. Andrews
Anonymous wrote:This thread is deviating from its purpose, and it's not hard to guess why.

Anyway, as a current WES parent, I am most often disgusted and sometimes offended by the toxic comments in this forum, most of which are by some who claim they're current WES families. I had no idea where private/independent/Episcopalian schools post job openings until reading the latest posts on this thread. And then I did a few Google searches to come up with the following posts by WES for current openings:

Head of School: http://careers.nais.org/jobs/6247732/head-of-school
Grades 5/6 teacher: http://www.aimsmddc.org/networking/apply_now.aspx?view=2&id=209386
Part time music teacher: http://www.aimsmddc.org/networking/apply_now.aspx?view=2&id=197126

I can safely assume that since the Chaplain position and the other open positions for 2014-2015 academic year have already been filled, any relevant posts on the web for those must have been taken off.

No need to speculate. You're just trying to badmouth WES. Whatever you're posting here does not provide relevant info for OP.






Grade 3 position - hired with no public posting. Chaplain - hired with no public posting. Latin teacher - hired with no public posting. Middle school social studies - hired with no public posting. Grade 6 teacher - hired with no public posting. Those are facts, not speculation. Go ask an administrator if you don't believe me.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2014 15:12     Subject: Re:WES or St. Andrews
This thread is deviating from its purpose, and it's not hard to guess why.

Anyway, as a current WES parent, I am most often disgusted and sometimes offended by the toxic comments in this forum, most of which are by some who claim they're current WES families. I had no idea where private/independent/Episcopalian schools post job openings until reading the latest posts on this thread. And then I did a few Google searches to come up with the following posts by WES for current openings:

Head of School: http://careers.nais.org/jobs/6247732/head-of-school
Grades 5/6 teacher: http://www.aimsmddc.org/networking/apply_now.aspx?view=2&id=209386
Part time music teacher: http://www.aimsmddc.org/networking/apply_now.aspx?view=2&id=197126

I can safely assume that since the Chaplain position and the other open positions for 2014-2015 academic year have already been filled, any relevant posts on the web for those must have been taken off.

No need to speculate. You're just trying to badmouth WES. Whatever you're posting here does not provide relevant info for OP.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2014 09:12     Subject: Re:WES or St. Andrews
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe he was the best candidate? Someone from Yale Divinity School is no slouch. Plus, have you even met him? He is really kind and personable.



I personally feel that an Episcopal school should have at least one chaplain who is a priest. I have never, in all our experiences in the Episcopal Church an in Episcopal schools, come across an Episcopal school that does not have a priest on staff. I have known of schools with unordained chaplains who assist ordained chaplains. Washington Episcopal School has the right to make any decision on staffing they want as an independent school, but as an Episcopal family, I expect an Episcopal school to have a priest on staff. Others are free to disagree, and the board and leaders may disagree as well. That is just my opinion.


I don't have a child at either WES or SAES, but as an Episcopalian who has taught Sunday School and worked with youth groups, I'd say what matters most is being able to establish a rapport with students and help them live the faith.




I agree with you, and the best way to find people who can establish rapport with children is to post positions publicly and seek out candidates. It is hard to trust that someone is the most qualified candidate when the position was never posted when the other chaplain left. That is where my family's trust in the administration failed. The school did the same thing with other teaching positions, hire without posting positions. Don't tell me someone is the most qualified for the job when the school never sought out applicants.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2014 08:54     Subject: Re:WES or St. Andrews
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe he was the best candidate? Someone from Yale Divinity School is no slouch. Plus, have you even met him? He is really kind and personable.



I personally feel that an Episcopal school should have at least one chaplain who is a priest. I have never, in all our experiences in the Episcopal Church an in Episcopal schools, come across an Episcopal school that does not have a priest on staff. I have known of schools with unordained chaplains who assist ordained chaplains. Washington Episcopal School has the right to make any decision on staffing they want as an independent school, but as an Episcopal family, I expect an Episcopal school to have a priest on staff. Others are free to disagree, and the board and leaders may disagree as well. That is just my opinion.


I don't have a child at either WES or SAES, but as an Episcopalian who has taught Sunday School and worked with youth groups, I'd say what matters most is being able to establish a rapport with students and help them live the faith.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2014 08:51     Subject: Re:WES or St. Andrews
Anonymous wrote:Maybe he was the best candidate? Someone from Yale Divinity School is no slouch. Plus, have you even met him? He is really kind and personable.




As a PP pointed out, he may be the best candidate who will do a wonderful job. For the sake of the students, I hope that is the case. That still doesn't address the issue of why so many priests come and go at WES? Hiring fantastic, well-qualified candidates doesn't help much if the causes of previous chaplains leaving are not addressed.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2014 08:48     Subject: Re:WES or St. Andrews
Anonymous wrote:Maybe he was the best candidate? Someone from Yale Divinity School is no slouch. Plus, have you even met him? He is really kind and personable.



I personally feel that an Episcopal school should have at least one chaplain who is a priest. I have never, in all our experiences in the Episcopal Church an in Episcopal schools, come across an Episcopal school that does not have a priest on staff. I have known of schools with unordained chaplains who assist ordained chaplains. Washington Episcopal School has the right to make any decision on staffing they want as an independent school, but as an Episcopal family, I expect an Episcopal school to have a priest on staff. Others are free to disagree, and the board and leaders may disagree as well. That is just my opinion.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2014 08:34     Subject: Re:WES or St. Andrews
Maybe he was the best candidate? Someone from Yale Divinity School is no slouch. Plus, have you even met him? He is really kind and personable.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2014 07:31     Subject: WES or St. Andrews
Anonymous wrote:The last two priests left for better opportunities -- maybe they are trying to find someone that seems willing to stick around.




Let me see if I understand your logic. They have problems keeping a priest on staff. In the private sector, frequent turnover in the same position typically means there is either a problem with the position or there is an institutional issue making it an undesirable work environment. Rather than address the problem, they decide to hire someone with fewer credentials who is more likely to stay around presumably because he or she has fewer options? Maybe that reasoning works in a school but not in the environment where I work.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2014 06:33     Subject: WES or St. Andrews
Anonymous wrote:The last two priests left for better opportunities -- maybe they are trying to find someone that seems willing to stick around.



Maybe the last two priests left because they were unhappy there, and they can't find another priest to take the job.
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2014 17:50     Subject: WES or St. Andrews
The last two priests left for better opportunities -- maybe they are trying to find someone that seems willing to stick around.
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2014 16:50     Subject: WES or St. Andrews
Either: it's not that important to WES. Or money.
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2014 15:33     Subject: WES or St. Andrews
OK, I'll bite. Why hire an unordained minister (he's not a priest yet) since he can't celebrate the Eucharist?
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2014 14:46     Subject: WES or St. Andrews
Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many people miss the feisty WES thread - reading about religion and the new lice thread is just not as interesting.


Give it time, vigilant WES bashers will surface. Need some WES-negativity in this forum every day.
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2014 14:25     Subject: WES or St. Andrews
Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many people miss the feisty WES thread - reading about religion and the new lice thread is just not as



Give it time - the frustrated parents and the marketing department will be at each others' throats on here before you know it. There seem to be no shortage of issues around there.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2014 08:36     Subject: WES or St. Andrews
I wonder how many people miss the feisty WES thread - reading about religion and the new lice thread is just not as interesting.