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Anonymous wrote:i don't vaccinate regularly and got my child's titers checked. she's immune from everything except chicken pox. i love that she didnt' get shot up with chemicals unnecssarily. the rest of you can fill their little bodies with whatever you want to pump into them. be my guest.

You know there's no serologic immunity for tetanus, right? Medical personnel really love it when parents bring their kids in to the Emergency Department with puncture wounds or cuts that need to be stitched and the parents didn't bother to get the kids vaxed beforehand because they didn't think it was necessary. They usually change their minds once their toddler steps on a rusty can and slices their foot open, though.

(It is not a given that someone who gets a cut will get tetanus.)

Wanna hedge your bets? The disease and treatment are a mofo. The shot doesn't work too well if you're already symptomatic, btw. Stepping on a rusty can is an obvious indicator, but a shocking number of people don't report animal bites (because they don't want the family dog to be put down), or are unaware of small splinters or less serious cuts their older kids get, etc. Those are great ways to get tetanus if you're not vaxed.

It's a good bet they're not dying of tetanus at home to spare their pets. Seems an excellent bet that since it is so hush-hush, the did NOT get tetanus.

You're right, they probably aren't DYING of tetanus. And most likely neither will your kid, if she gets a puncture wound, is in a car accident, is bitten by a stray animal, has an undetected splinter that gets infected, etc. We have excellent medical care available here and will do whatever can be done to keep your child alive if you bring her in presenting with the symptoms of tetanus. If it's not caught right away, she will most likely spend several days undergoing painful treatments in the hospital, hopefully with no lasting effects. If it is caught immediately, you can expect a withering look from the attending physician and you'd better hope no one else is in the hospital with symptoms of polio, pertussis or any of the other nasty crap that most people are smart enough to vax for. But hey, feel free to ignore common sense and keep your kid unvaxed. Be my guest.

Anonymous wrote:Schools really need to strengthen the available exemptions so that the selfish and willfully ignorant can't enroll their unvaccinated children. I wish there were a way to keep them out of the grocery stores, etc., too.

Vaccines work so very well that now people think they don't need them. Unbelievable.

They should make the restrictions akin to those aimed at women wanting abortions. Counseling, showing you photos of dead kids with the disease - maybe an ultrasound or two.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i don't vaccinate regularly and got my child's titers checked. she's immune from everything except chicken pox. i love that she didnt' get shot up with chemicals unnecssarily. the rest of you can fill their little bodies with whatever you want to pump into them. be my guest.

You know there's no serologic immunity for tetanus, right? Medical personnel really love it when parents bring their kids in to the Emergency Department with puncture wounds or cuts that need to be stitched and the parents didn't bother to get the kids vaxed beforehand because they didn't think it was necessary. They usually change their minds once their toddler steps on a rusty can and slices their foot open, though.

(It is not a given that someone who gets a cut will get tetanus.)

Wanna hedge your bets? The disease and treatment are a mofo. The shot doesn't work too well if you're already symptomatic, btw. Stepping on a rusty can is an obvious indicator, but a shocking number of people don't report animal bites (because they don't want the family dog to be put down), or are unaware of small splinters or less serious cuts their older kids get, etc. Those are great ways to get tetanus if you're not vaxed.

It's a good bet they're not dying of tetanus at home to spare their pets. Seems an excellent bet that since it is so hush-hush, the did NOT get tetanus.

Anonymous wrote:My most vocal anti-vax friend was the first in line to get her precious snowflake the H1N1 vaccine during the swine flu scare a few years back. Seriously - I wouldn't be surprised to find out that she pushed over senior citizens and infants on her way to push in front of the line. She got in like at the clinic at like 5AM the first day they were available.

Funny how people change their minds in the wake of an actual threat vs a theoretical threat.

Well, obviously. What's more funny is how hysterical the "anti-anti-vax" people sound on a regular basis in the face of a theoretical threat. I could not live on a daily basis with that level of fear and loathing. Nut jobs.

Anonymous wrote:I agree...But you are kind of over-posting on this section about vaccines and it is kind of getting annoying and creepy.

According to you, and clicking through isn't compulsory.

I agree...But you are kind of over-posting on this section about vaccines and it is kind of getting annoying and creepy.

Schools really need to strengthen the available exemptions so that the selfish and willfully ignorant can't enroll their unvaccinated children. I wish there were a way to keep them out of the grocery stores, etc., too.

Vaccines work so very well that now people think they don't need them. Unbelievable.

My most vocal anti-vax friend was the first in line to get her precious snowflake the H1N1 vaccine during the swine flu scare a few years back. Seriously - I wouldn't be surprised to find out that she pushed over senior citizens and infants on her way to push in front of the line. She got in like at the clinic at like 5AM the first day they were available.

Funny how people change their minds in the wake of an actual threat vs a theoretical threat.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i don't vaccinate regularly and got my child's titers checked. she's immune from everything except chicken pox. i love that she didnt' get shot up with chemicals unnecssarily. the rest of you can fill their little bodies with whatever you want to pump into them. be my guest.

You know there's no serologic immunity for tetanus, right? Medical personnel really love it when parents bring their kids in to the Emergency Department with puncture wounds or cuts that need to be stitched and the parents didn't bother to get the kids vaxed beforehand because they didn't think it was necessary. They usually change their minds once their toddler steps on a rusty can and slices their foot open, though.

(It is not a given that someone who gets a cut will get tetanus.)

Wanna hedge your bets? The disease and treatment are a mofo. The shot doesn't work too well if you're already symptomatic, btw. Stepping on a rusty can is an obvious indicator, but a shocking number of people don't report animal bites (because they don't want the family dog to be put down), or are unaware of small splinters or less serious cuts their older kids get, etc. Those are great ways to get tetanus if you're not vaxed.

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Anonymous wrote:i don't vaccinate regularly and got my child's titers checked. she's immune from everything except chicken pox. i love that she didnt' get shot up with chemicals unnecssarily. the rest of you can fill their little bodies with whatever you want to pump into them. be my guest.

You know there's no serologic immunity for tetanus, right? Medical personnel really love it when parents bring their kids in to the Emergency Department with puncture wounds or cuts that need to be stitched and the parents didn't bother to get the kids vaxed beforehand because they didn't think it was necessary. They usually change their minds once their toddler steps on a rusty can and slices their foot open, though.

So what is wrong with this scenario -- getting the shot when it's actually necessary? You do realize that tetanus is one of the shots they want you to give your INFANT who is not going to get tetanus for quite a while, if ever. (It is not a given that someone who gets a cut will get tetanus.)

Anonymous wrote:i don't vaccinate regularly and got my child's titers checked. she's immune from everything except chicken pox. i love that she didnt' get shot up with chemicals unnecssarily. the rest of you can fill their little bodies with whatever you want to pump into them. be my guest.

You know there's no serologic immunity for tetanus, right? Medical personnel really love it when parents bring their kids in to the Emergency Department with puncture wounds or cuts that need to be stitched and the parents didn't bother to get the kids vaxed beforehand because they didn't think it was necessary. They usually change their minds once their toddler steps on a rusty can and slices their foot open, though.

Anonymous wrote:i don't vaccinate regularly and got my child's titers checked. she's immune from everything except chicken pox. i love that she didnt' get shot up with chemicals unnecssarily. the rest of you can fill their little bodies with whatever you want to pump into them. be my guest.

Please share which chemicals in which amounts are in vaccines that render them so obviously dangerous, with citations, naturally. And please show how vaccination has caused widespread damage to those who have been vaccinated.

What is that? You can't demonstrate that? Now, huh. Why ever would that be?

Anonymous wrote:My youngest is just 6 weeks old so has not had her shots yet. And after hearing the stories of measles exposure in Fairfax and Loudon, I am so worried. She wasn't in any of the places listed, of course, but I have 2 older children that go to school, play sports, go to birthday parties, etc.
I think the non- vaxers should all have to go live on an island somewhere.

So you keep saying.

Anonymous wrote:Measles are not a very dangerous disease people. The only problem is, that these days everybody gets vaccinated against everything so doctors don't know, how to treat certain diseases properly. There is a reason why you are not required to vaccinate your children - because it is not necessary as long as you know, what you are doing.

Anna Duggar? Is that you?

You know when we were kids, we just rolled around in the back of the station wagon with no seatbelts and everyone was fine! I came from a big family so we had a van. My mom says she would put my bassinet between the two front seats, and I was fine! Most people are safe drivers and most people are never involved in a serious car accident in their life, so there is no need to use seatbelts or car seats.

That's the anti-vax argument in a nutshell.