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Anonymous wrote:Compare crime reports for the H Street corridor and Georgetown and then get back to us. There just aren't that many "dice games" on Prospect Street. If you haven't seem anything you consider suspicious on H Street then you are painfully unaware or just don't frequent the area that much.

OK, I'll bite. Show me the stats.

Yes, there are a few old drunk men that congregate outside of the liquor store, but I've never seen them shooting dice. And they always speak and are nice. They used to live in the neighborhood and came back to see each other.

And why in the world would folks choose H Street to play dice? Really? Police are all over the place on H St. I feel safest on H Street because there are always so many bike cops and security guards. It's the side streets (G St., etc.) that I'm wary of because it's the side streets that perpetrators go to looking for victims.

I have observed shooting dice and brazen drug transactions on multiple occasions near the intersection of 8th and H, not to mention all sorts of other unsavory behavior. The area continues to be a magnet for trouble, regardless of police presence. It was only two years ago that the owner of a deli at 7th and H was robbed and then shot. Justifying public intoxication as just a few old drunks coming back to see one another is just mind boggling. Where do you think these upstanding old gentlemen go to relieve themselves? It appears the cultural divide strikes again.

Anonymous wrote:Just because your realtor told you your house is "on the hill" it is not. The neighborhood is called Stanton Park and its a "transition neighborhood." Sorry you dont get to brag to your out of town naive friends. Read the crime reports. Thats why I live in Tenley. No yard but no shootings on my block. I will take the exchange.

I wasn't aware that Stanton Park was not comsidered to be a "Hill" neighborhood. What about the Lincoln Park neighborhood? Seward Square? Eastern Market? You might want to correct the HPO and National Park Service, both of which believe the Historic District extends to F Street NE.

Anonymous wrote:You know, there are some of us that don't see our role as "replacing" the folks that lived her for generation after generation.

Even the idea of "transition neighborhoods" sounds callous. Some of us consider the people who live next door to simply be... our... are you ready for this... NEIGHBOR. Not "the people that we need to get out of the neighborhood."

Noone is replacing anyone. I appreciate all of my neighbors - many who are elderly and unfortunately will likely be replaced. BUT I hope if they are, it's someone just like them.

Good for you living in "Tenley" to escape your fears. I'm not afraid and I am not concerned about being a target of crime. I was a target of horrendous crime in a Virginia suburb, but never in DC - so I don't perceive where I live to be dangerous like you apparently do!

And I live in a "transition neighborhood" because of the neighbors - not despite of them.

You know, there are some of us that don't see our role as "replacing" the folks that lived her for generation after generation.

Even the idea of "transition neighborhoods" sounds callous. Some of us consider the people who live next door to simply be... our... are you ready for this... NEIGHBOR. Not "the people that we need to get out of the neighborhood."

Noone is replacing anyone. I appreciate all of my neighbors - many who are elderly and unfortunately will likely be replaced. BUT I hope if they are, it's someone just like them.

Good for you living in "Tenley" to escape your fears. I'm not afraid and I am not concerned about being a target of crime. I was a target of horrendous crime in a Virginia suburb, but never in DC - so I don't perceive where I live to be dangerous like you apparently do!

Just because your realtor told you your house is "on the hill" it is not. The neighborhood is called Stanton Park and its a "transition neighborhood." Sorry you dont get to brag to your out of town naive friends. Read the crime reports. Thats why I live in Tenley. No yard but no shootings on my block. I will take the exchange.

Anonymous wrote:Compare crime reports for the H Street corridor and Georgetown and then get back to us. There just aren't that many "dice games" on Prospect Street. If you haven't seem anything you consider suspicious on H Street then you are painfully unaware or just don't frequent the area that much.

OK, I'll bite. Show me the stats.

Yes, there are a few old drunk men that congregate outside of the liquor store, but I've never seen them shooting dice. And they always speak and are nice. They used to live in the neighborhood and came back to see each other.

And why in the world would folks choose H Street to play dice? Really? Police are all over the place on H St. I feel safest on H Street because there are always so many bike cops and security guards. It's the side streets (G St., etc.) that I'm wary of because it's the side streets that perpetrators go to looking for victims.

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Crimes that reported in 206, located in the SECOND Police District(s) between 04/29/2013 and 04/29/2014.
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  Number of Crimes Reported Between  
Crime Type 4/29/2012 to 4/29/2013 04/29/2013 to 04/29/2014 Change
Homicide 0 1 [view map]
Sex Abuse 6 7 [view map]
Robbery Excluding Gun 24 26 [view map]
Robbery With Gun 4 7 [view map]
Assault Dangerous Weapon (ADW) Excluding Gun 8 18 [view map]
Assault Dangerous Weapon (ADW) Gun 0 1 [view map]
Total Violent Crime 42 60 [view map]
Burglary 75 64 [view map]
Theft 657 687 [view map]
Theft F/Auto 119 135 [view map]
Stolen Auto 26 19 [view map]
Arson 0 1 [view map]
Total Property Crime 877 906 [view map]
Total Crime 919 966 [view map]

Definition of symbols in "Change" column:
: Decrease in the number of crimes reported compared to the prior time period.
: Increase in the number of crimes reported compared to the prior time period.
: No change in the number of crimes reported compared to the prior time period.
Note:
This report and accompanying maps only include offenses where MPD has provided map coordinates that can be displayed. Since 1/1/2011, this limitation excludes 747 out of 116226 total crimes (approximately 0.64% of the data).
The ability to view the map is removed if there are more offenses than can be reasonably displayed on the map.
The city-wide, year-to-date homicide statistics include the 12 victims of the Washington Navy Yard shooting incident that reported on September 16, 2013. Those numbers are also included in the appropriate District and PSA location depending on the selected parameters of your search.
Data Disclaimer:
All statistics presented here are based on preliminary DC Index crime data reported at least two business days before today’s date. The statistics presented here are compiled based on the date the offense was reported ("report date") to the police department. The data do not represent official statistics submitted to the FBI under the Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) program. All preliminary offenses are classified based on DC criminal code and not the FBI offense classifications. Because the data is preliminary, all statistics are subject to change.
Sex Assault data from before 2009 is not available online. Read the full disclaimer.

Just because your realtor told you your house is "on the hill" it is not. The neighborhood is called Stanton Park and its a "transition neighborhood." Sorry you dont get to brag to your out of town naive friends. Read the crime report. Thats why I live in Tenley. No yard but no shootings on my block. I will take the exchange.

Crimes that reported in 104, located in the FIRST Police District(s) between 04/29/2013 and 04/29/2014.
Download Crime Data | Crime Definitions | New Search
  Number of Crimes Reported Between  
Crime Type 4/29/2012 to 4/29/2013 04/29/2013 to 04/29/2014 Change
Homicide 3 1 [view map]
Sex Abuse 4 1 [view map]
Robbery Excluding Gun 63 46 [view map]
Robbery With Gun 39 14 [view map]
Assault Dangerous Weapon (ADW) Excluding Gun 18 19 [view map]
Assault Dangerous Weapon (ADW) Gun 4 3 [view map]
Total Violent Crime 131 84 [view map]
Burglary 107 129 [view map]
Theft 327 355 [view map]
Theft F/Auto 323 293 [view map]
Stolen Auto 67 23 [view map]
Arson 0 1 [view map]
Total Property Crime 824 801 [view map]
Total Crime 955 885 [view map]

Definition of symbols in "Change" column:
: Decrease in the number of crimes reported compared to the prior time period.
: Increase in the number of crimes reported compared to the prior time period.
: No change in the number of crimes reported compared to the prior time period.
Note:
This report and accompanying maps only include offenses where MPD has provided map coordinates that can be displayed. Since 1/1/2011, this limitation excludes 747 out of 116226 total crimes (approximately 0.64% of the data).
The ability to view the map is removed if there are more offenses than can be reasonably displayed on the map.
The city-wide, year-to-date homicide statistics include the 12 victims of the Washington Navy Yard shooting incident that reported on September 16, 2013. Those numbers are also included in the appropriate District and PSA location depending on the selected parameters of your search.
Data Disclaimer:
All statistics presented here are based on preliminary DC Index crime data reported at least two business days before today’s date. The statistics presented here are compiled based on the date the offense was reported ("report date") to the police department. The data do not represent official statistics submitted to the FBI under the Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) program. All preliminary offenses are classified based on DC criminal code and not the FBI offense classifications. Because the data is preliminary, all statistics are subject to change.
Sex Assault data from before 2009 is not available online. Read the full disclaimer.

I stopped a guy from peeing on the side of a building on H Street at 3:30pm yesterday by honking at him. He then rushed my car -- charming.

Compare crime reports for the H Street corridor and Georgetown and then get back to us. There just aren't that many "dice games" on Prospect Street. If you haven't seem anything you consider suspicious on H Street then you are painfully unaware or just don't frequent the area that much.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: This shooting had nothing at all to do with H Street. The only thing H Street's development has to do with LT is enabling a lot of on-street parking on the weekends.

There has been a large group of men who hang out daily in front of two houses on Morris for at least 10 years, drinking, smoking weed and generally being a public nuisance. The administration at LT looks away, the old neighbors never minded, the new neighbors have too much white guilt to call them in, and the police can't do anything about loitering and it's hard/not worth it to bust them for public drinking, etc.

The loiterers are rarely currently from the neighborhood -- they come back to their old stomping grounds and use NE as their open-air bar/men's club. Anyone who has attended a little league game or practice on a weeknight knows exactly who/how/where this shooting occurred.

This problem is not block-specific, it's house-specific.

Thank you! It was odd to hear folks say they live on the "good" block of Capitol Hill where there is rarely any crime (unlike the crime on H Street.) Very odd! In this particular instance, the crime followed nearby residents (whom we have to remember were victims as well). Doing drugs out in public shouldn't be tolerated so I agree that police should be called. However, the neighbors need to be on the same page because if they have been doing this for 10 years they won't appreciate new neighbors coming in to tell what to do.

I didn't read the original post to be claiming there are good blocks and bad blocks at all. I read it to mean that H St. is a known gathering place of, shall we say, undesirables, and that sometimes their activities bleed--no pun intended--into the surrounding blocks.

Have you ever walked down H St. during the day? Lots of loitering. G St., not at all. As much as people want to think of H as having been gentrified it still has a long way to go.

That is NOT true. There is a lot of loitering btw 5th and 6th on G, another "bad house" similar to the one where the shooting happened. There is more loitering on G for the community center, Sherwood. There is even more a few blocks further east. I see it every day.

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Yes, there are some people who hang out on H Street as there are a lot of businesses and bus stops there. I have never seen illegal activity. The PP who thinks H St to blame is likely assuming this because the people are black. I travel by foot and bus on and around H St. quite a bit and have never seen anything suspicious. I suspect that when the PP goes to Georgetown and sees all of the white college students and professionals going to stores and occasionally hanging out, they feel the same? Ha! Unbelievable.

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Anonymous wrote:23:18 closing the Morris "Club" will do a lot to help LT's reputation. Not the school's fault, but well-regarded schools on the Hill have serene immediate neighborhoods.

That's nonsense. SWS is two blocks to the east and adjoins Sherwood. Maury is a few blocks farther southeast. Watkins and Tyler are both pretty close to large public housing projects.

so you're pretty much describing Brent and Peabody among Hill elementary schools. This has nothing to do with LT

Oh how I yearn for the serene, bucolic qualities of the Bremt district. Tending a herd of dairy cattle. Raising alpacas. Fields of organically grown soybeans. Strolling through our vast expanse of virgin woods. . . .

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:23:18 closing the Morris "Club" will do a lot to help LT's reputation. Not the school's fault, but well-regarded schools on the Hill have serene immediate neighborhoods.

That's nonsense. SWS is two blocks to the east and adjoins Sherwood. Maury is a few blocks farther southeast. Watkins and Tyler are both pretty close to large public housing projects.

so you're pretty much describing Brent and Peabody among Hill elementary schools. This has nothing to do with LT

+1. I live across from SWS and "serene" is not how I describe our neighborhood. Watkins wasn't either when I lived over there.