Anonymous
Post 04/26/2014 16:29     Subject: Re:Why shouldn't AAP be self selected?

$250,000 for transportation




more than that
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2014 16:14     Subject: Re:Why shouldn't AAP be self selected?

Anonymous wrote:
Don't all these kids need to be educated anyway, whether it's honors, AAP, or regular classes?




Yes. But, AAP costs more. Check out the budget. Millions more--plus several million for busing.


$250,000 for transportation
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2014 16:00     Subject: Re:Why shouldn't AAP be self selected?

Don't all these kids need to be educated anyway, whether it's honors, AAP, or regular classes?




Yes. But, AAP costs more. Check out the budget. Millions more--plus several million for busing.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2014 15:39     Subject: Why shouldn't AAP be self selected?


Don't all these kids need to be educated anyway, whether it's honors, AAP, or regular classes?
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2014 15:39     Subject: Re:Why shouldn't AAP be self selected?

Why does honors cost more?




It doesn't. The poster doesn't understand budgets.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2014 14:43     Subject: Why shouldn't AAP be self selected?

Why does honors cost more?
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2014 14:40     Subject: Re:Why shouldn't AAP be self selected?


Anonymous wrote:
There would be a greater savings by eliminating honors. AAP does not really cost that much.




Please explain/expand on this. I don't buy it.

Honors courses (actually, a subset of them) were placed back in at the request of the FAIRGRADE parents (January 2009, I think?) with the grade bump efforts for honors and AP. At that time, FCPS said that eliminating the subset of honors courses would have saved some money. (There was the effort to identify what courses really were honors level and warranted the grade bump.) As the SOLs change, the curriculum has to change to match it, which requires changing all courses (general ed, honors, and AAP).

AAP courses at the same grade level (just in middle school) are only at a subset of schools and not every school.

So under a zero-based budgeting approach, due to sheer numbers, eliminating honors at middle school which be a bigger chunk of money than eliminating AAP at middle school.
'Dead wrong

Honors does not require the expense of additional busing, additional teachers, additional testing expenses, etc. Check out the
FCPS budget.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2014 13:42     Subject: Re:Why shouldn't AAP be self selected?

Anonymous wrote:
There would be a greater savings by eliminating honors. AAP does not really cost that much.




Please explain/expand on this. I don't buy it.


Honors courses (actually, a subset of them) were placed back in at the request of the FAIRGRADE parents (January 2009, I think?) with the grade bump efforts for honors and AP. At that time, FCPS said that eliminating the subset of honors courses would have saved some money. (There was the effort to identify what courses really were honors level and warranted the grade bump.) As the SOLs change, the curriculum has to change to match it, which requires changing all courses (general ed, honors, and AAP).

AAP courses at the same grade level (just in middle school) are only at a subset of schools and not every school.

So under a zero-based budgeting approach, due to sheer numbers, eliminating honors at middle school which be a bigger chunk of money than eliminating AAP at middle school.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2014 11:45     Subject: Re:Why shouldn't AAP be self selected?

There would be a greater savings by eliminating honors. AAP does not really cost that much.




Please explain/expand on this. I don't buy it.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2014 09:24     Subject: Why shouldn't AAP be self selected?

If they want to increase minority representatoon then part of the selection shoupd be that they will serve the top 5% in each pyramid, plus any child that is in the top 5-10% of the district as a whole.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2014 04:55     Subject: Why shouldn't AAP be self selected?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think they should get rid of honors, AP, and IB. None of those are necessary.


"honors" is necessary as a sop for those who can't get into AAP. It's very important for their self-esteem.


But honors is not necessary for a high school diploma. Every middle and high school has honors. It has been watered down over the years. Think of the amount of money saved by eliminating honors across the county.


Think of the amount of money FCPS would save if it did away with AAP altogether. Now there's a cut I would wholeheartedly stand behind.


There would be a greater savings by eliminating honors. AAP does not really cost that much.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2014 23:10     Subject: Why shouldn't AAP be self selected?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think they should get rid of honors, AP, and IB. None of those are necessary.


"honors" is necessary as a sop for those who can't get into AAP. It's very important for their self-esteem.


But honors is not necessary for a high school diploma. Every middle and high school has honors. It has been watered down over the years. Think of the amount of money saved by eliminating honors across the county.


Think of the amount of money FCPS would save if it did away with AAP altogether. Now there's a cut I would wholeheartedly stand behind.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2014 21:18     Subject: Why shouldn't AAP be self selected?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think they should get rid of honors, AP, and IB. None of those are necessary.


"honors" is necessary as a sop for those who can't get into AAP. It's very important for their self-esteem.


But honors is not necessary for a high school diploma. Every middle and high school has honors. It has been watered down over the years. Think of the amount of money saved by eliminating honors across the county.


I understand you're being facetious. But really it's just a label, not an actual program.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2014 21:10     Subject: Why shouldn't AAP be self selected?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think they should get rid of honors, AP, and IB. None of those are necessary.


"honors" is necessary as a sop for those who can't get into AAP. It's very important for their self-esteem.


But honors is not necessary for a high school diploma. Every middle and high school has honors. It has been watered down over the years. Think of the amount of money saved by eliminating honors across the county.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2014 20:47     Subject: Why shouldn't AAP be self selected?

Anonymous wrote:I think they should get rid of honors, AP, and IB. None of those are necessary.


"honors" is necessary as a sop for those who can't get into AAP. It's very important for their self-esteem.