Anonymous
Post 04/07/2014 14:23     Subject: Eaton Thrown Under the Bus
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thrown under the bus?

No that goes to the Murch kids who were IB for Deal and Wilson but are looking to be zones to Eaton.

Now they get Eaton, Hardy and possibly no-Wilson? Ouch.


I don't understand the geography exactly. If some families in Murch's southern area are shifted, wouldn't the next closest school be Hearst? Hearst is north of Eaton, and some of its current area used to be zoned for Eaton.


Yes, you're correct; the other poster is wrong. Murch goes to Hearst. Eaton's boundaries are unchanged (which only applies under scenario A, anyway).

Hardy will be good within two years, regardless of whether Eaton goes there. Book it.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2014 14:20     Subject: Eaton Thrown Under the Bus
Anonymous wrote:Thrown under the bus?

No that goes to the Murch kids who were IB for Deal and Wilson but are looking to be zones to Eaton.

Now they get Eaton, Hardy and possibly no-Wilson? Ouch.


I don't understand the geography exactly. If some families in Murch's southern area are shifted, wouldn't the next closest school be Hearst? Hearst is north of Eaton, and some of its current area used to be zoned for Eaton.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2014 14:18     Subject: Eaton Thrown Under the Bus
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I really think Eaton families have 1) a right to voice their frustration or disappointment 2) a responsibility to see that if they mobilize to make Hardy better they will likely be glad they didn't send their kids to Deal.


At this point it seem easier to make Hardy better than to fight these plans.


I'm going to fight them. It's my kid who will live through a transitional school that is not as solid as what she could have had, By the time Hardy is better, I'll be a grandparent.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2014 14:16     Subject: Eaton Thrown Under the Bus
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Eaton does have a fair number of OOB kids - including a lot from Mt Pleasant who prefer something other than Bancroft. Getting to Hardy is harder for OOB than getting to Deal.


If they don't prefer close/inboundary and are willing to drive their kids west - so be it.


John Eaton is getting close to 50% in boundary, and I'll bet Cleveland Park families will not be thrilled about being forced to Hardy.


Eaton is 36% inbounds. Two of every three eaton students commute from (I'm sure) eotp.

And of those 1/3 IB kids, a good chunk of them are apartment renters who have only been "Cleveland park families" for a short while. So yes, they're families with a recent Cleveland park address but it's not quite the demographic you were hoping to put in everyone's mind with your word choices.


Excuse me, but you're saying that apartment renters are not really neighborhood families?! First someone suggests that the Hardy switch shouldn't matter because John Eaton is majority OOB students -- so they should just shut up and be happy, with what they're getting I guess. Next, the suggestion is that the in-bounds population is comprised of families who have only been apartment dwellers in Cleveland Park for a short while, so Hardy shouldn't matter to them either. Wow.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2014 14:15     Subject: Eaton Thrown Under the Bus
Thrown under the bus?

No that goes to the Murch kids who were IB for Deal and Wilson but are looking to be zones to Eaton.

Now they get Eaton, Hardy and possibly no-Wilson? Ouch.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2014 14:03     Subject: Eaton Thrown Under the Bus
Anonymous wrote:I really think Eaton families have 1) a right to voice their frustration or disappointment 2) a responsibility to see that if they mobilize to make Hardy better they will likely be glad they didn't send their kids to Deal.


At this point it seem easier to make Hardy better than to fight these plans.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2014 14:02     Subject: Eaton Thrown Under the Bus
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Eaton does have a fair number of OOB kids - including a lot from Mt Pleasant who prefer something other than Bancroft. Getting to Hardy is harder for OOB than getting to Deal.


If they don't prefer close/inboundary and are willing to drive their kids west - so be it.


John Eaton is getting close to 50% in boundary, and I'll bet Cleveland Park families will not be thrilled about being forced to Hardy.


Eaton is 36% inbounds. Two of every three eaton students commute from (I'm sure) eotp.

And of those 1/3 IB kids, a good chunk of them are apartment renters who have only been "Cleveland park families" for a short while. So yes, they're families with a recent Cleveland park address but it's not quite the demographic you were hoping to put in everyone's mind with your word choices.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2014 14:02     Subject: Eaton Thrown Under the Bus
I really think Eaton families have 1) a right to voice their frustration or disappointment 2) a responsibility to see that if they mobilize to make Hardy better they will likely be glad they didn't send their kids to Deal.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2014 13:54     Subject: Eaton Thrown Under the Bus
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let me try to understand this. Eaton is being thrown under bus because Deal is overcrowded and 64 percent of Eaton students are OOB? Cry me a river.


So you are saying that John Eaton is expendable because OOB are somehow less deserving of a Deal education? That's rich.


DC schools were constituted as neighborhood schools. Eaton is closer to Hardy than Deal. Feeding Eaton students to Hardy, regardless of IB or OOB status, does not expend Eaton. Pass the popcorn as the drama is highly entertaining.


I fail to see how your snark about a seemingly reasonable explanation is productive. It's closer to Hardy? Fine. Eaton families will embrace it. But it is still a loss of what was expected when we purchased our home. I'm not expecting sympathy, but I wonder if you would talk this way to my face. Let's keep it classy, even for DCUM.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2014 13:48     Subject: Eaton Thrown Under the Bus
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let me try to understand this. Eaton is being thrown under bus because Deal is overcrowded and 64 percent of Eaton students are OOB? Cry me a river.


So you are saying that John Eaton is expendable because OOB are somehow less deserving of a Deal education? That's rich.


DC schools were constituted as neighborhood schools. Eaton is closer to Hardy than Deal. Feeding Eaton students to Hardy, regardless of IB or OOB status, does not expend Eaton. Pass the popcorn as the drama is highly entertaining.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2014 13:45     Subject: Eaton Thrown Under the Bus
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thrown Under the Bus? Really? Eaton is closer to Hardy than Deal. I have long wondered why Eaton fed into Deal.


And it is a lot closer to Deal that is Shepherd ES...., which apparently will never move from Deal. It's in the Constitution.


Especially if Bowser has anything to do with it.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2014 13:42     Subject: Eaton Thrown Under the Bus
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When Proposal B talks about Hardy switching to a "New" high school, it is not clear whether it is talking about a newly built high school or a different high school, which would be new to Hardy students. It is doubtful that DC would build a new school in Ward 3 given the underutilization of other high schools throughout the city. In that case, Hardy would leap-frog over other neighborhoods that feed into Wilson in order to go to a high school to the East.


And let's be real. The only city-owned site of any size west of Rock Creek is Duke Ellington (which has a building but no campus with fields), And the decision seems to have been made to keep Ellington where it is, despite it's non-central location and the fact that it is no where near the Metro. The Third District police station site on Idaho Ave, would work for an elementary school but not for a HS, and you'd have to evict the cops. The logical conclusion is that the "new" high school to which DCPS vaguely refers is no where near Hardy.


The old Western High School football field is but a block or two from the Ellington campus. Or did DCPS sell it? Haven't been in that neighborhood in a decade.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2014 13:42     Subject: Eaton Thrown Under the Bus
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thrown Under the Bus? Really? Eaton is closer to Hardy than Deal. I have long wondered why Eaton fed into Deal.


The issue is less with middle school than with high school at this point. Where is Eaton closest?


Wilson is the closest high school to John Eaton.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2014 13:41     Subject: Eaton Thrown Under the Bus
Anonymous wrote:Thrown Under the Bus? Really? Eaton is closer to Hardy than Deal. I have long wondered why Eaton fed into Deal.


And it is a lot closer to Deal that is Shepherd ES...., which apparently will never move from Deal. It's in the Constitution.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2014 13:41     Subject: Eaton Thrown Under the Bus
Anonymous wrote:Thrown Under the Bus? Really? Eaton is closer to Hardy than Deal. I have long wondered why Eaton fed into Deal.


The issue is less with middle school than with high school at this point. Where is Eaton closest?