Anonymous wrote:

No. I'm not sure you understand the meaning of the word "curriculum." A curriculum is a program of study -- i.e. the HOW you're going to learn something. Common Core merely sets agreed-upon standards of what should be learned. A curriculum, by definition, does prescribe how to teach something. What to read, the pedagogy, what courses have to be taken, the content of the courses, etc. etc.

Maybe you should start with a little education yourself before you involve yourself in this conversation. You're out of your league.

I'm not the PP you are responding to, but you are dead wrong. Curriculum is WHAT is taught. A Program of study is WHAT is taught. You need to do a little research.

Thanks for the clarification.

Federalization of schools in essence. All dumbed down to look like they perform better.

Anonymous wrote:

No. I'm not sure you understand the meaning of the word "curriculum." A curriculum is a program of study -- i.e. the HOW you're going to learn something. Common Core merely sets agreed-upon standards of what should be learned. A curriculum, by definition, does prescribe how to teach something. What to read, the pedagogy, what courses have to be taken, the content of the courses, etc. etc.

Maybe you should start with a little education yourself before you involve yourself in this conversation. You're out of your league.

I'm not the PP you are responding to, but you are dead wrong. Curriculum is WHAT is taught. A Program of study is WHAT is taught. You need to do a little research.

I AM the pp that the first message was a response to. A curriculum is the WHAT of learning - just as the previous poster has stated. It is not HOW it is to be taught. A curriculum defines the goals or outcomes of learning - sometimes referred to as “objectives.” The HOW is all about the art of teaching. Fortunately, we have some incredible teachers in our area who are masters at the art of teaching.
Your snarky retort (bolded above) is not appropriate. I try to respond on message boards in a way that I would respond in person, even on an anonymous board. Before I post something, I also think, ”Is this something I would say to my spouse or my children?” If you would respond with the above statement to your spouse, then you are probably not married. If you would say something like this to your children, then I feel sorry for them.
Signed, A Curriculum Specialist (masters, administration endorsement, and over 30 years in education)

That is NO alternative to be shown otherwise.

Anonymous wrote:

Who really supports Common Core? Look at this graphic:

http://honestpracticum.com/visualized-who-really-w...ts-to-see-common-core-succeed/

So, because a lot of smart, wealthy people support this, that makes it right? I have read the standards and looked at materials being used. This is being driven by publishing companies. Good idea gone bad. Many of the standards are gibberish.

Indeed. Common Core will make some folks a lot of money. Also will allow the government to control education once and for all. Once you change the SATs and ACTs to conform to common core, you force private schools to teach those same standards. I hope there is a continued grassroots push from innovative colleges to not require these standardized tests for admission. That will truly allow learning to flourish.

Given the number of learning disabilities, the rise in aspergers and just plain differences in learning styles, common core will destroy the self-esteem of a lot of kids who will be convinced they are stupid, and will have alternative to be shown otherwise. Very sad.

Anonymous wrote:The privatization of public education scares the crap out of me. Proponents of the charter school movement are in it to make money out of public school kids and their families, NOT to create educational opportunities.

And the government has the people's best interest in mind? Really?

Testing critical thinking is an admirable goal. However, the tests that have been developed are not testing to that goal. That is the problem. Those kinds of tests are very difficult to design.

Who really supports Common Core? Look at this graphic:

http://honestpracticum.com/visualized-who-really-w...ts-to-see-common-core-succeed/

So, because a lot of smart, wealthy people support this, that makes it right? I have read the standards and looked at materials being used. This is being driven by publishing companies. Good idea gone bad. Many of the standards are gibberish.

Who really supports Common Core? Look at this graphic:

http://honestpracticum.com/visualized-who-really-wants-to-see-common-core-succeed/

cont. Curriculum may include what is used to teach to the standards, but it does not prescribe HOW to teach it. signed, retired teacher with Masters +30.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looking at the map on the Common Core site http://www.corestandards.org/standards-in-your-state/ I see that Virginia is among the few states that have not adopted the standards. Does anyone know why that is? Does Viginia have a plan to adopt Common Core in the near future? Is it the Viginia state legislature that makes the decision as to whether or not Virginia public schools follow Common Core?

I don't know, but I hope it stays that way. Common Core is just an attempt to stamp out student individuality and relegate teachers to the status of droning automata.

Yep

The privatization of public education scares the crap out of me. Proponents of the charter school movement are in it to make money out of public school kids and their families, NOT to create educational opportunities.

No. I'm not sure you understand the meaning of the word "curriculum." A curriculum is a program of study -- i.e. the HOW you're going to learn something. Common Core merely sets agreed-upon standards of what should be learned. A curriculum, by definition, does prescribe how to teach something. What to read, the pedagogy, what courses have to be taken, the content of the courses, etc. etc.

Maybe you should start with a little education yourself before you involve yourself in this conversation. You're out of your league.

I'm not the PP you are responding to, but you are dead wrong. Curriculum is WHAT is taught. A Program of study is WHAT is taught. You need to do a little research.

I doubt you would understand them. And your "suspicions" are without any merit whatsoever. You have nothing of value to add to the conversation, clearly. Just hunches and bullshit.

Suggest you go to the other thread or google and see some of the "tests". There is one posted on another thread with a glaring mistake for a K test. Houghton-Mifflin test.

Anonymous wrote:I suspect the tests are being written "on the fly" by publishing companies. I would like to see the validation process and statistics.

I doubt you would understand them. And your "suspicions" are without any merit whatsoever. You have nothing of value to add to the conversation, clearly. Just hunches and bullshit.

http://www.usnews.com/news/special-reports/a-guide-to-common-core/articles/2014/03/04/common-core-myths-and-facts