Anonymous
Post 03/11/2014 17:46     Subject: True Detective finale thread (spoilers)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Alright fellas, we've got this massive conspiracy of evil SOBs committing murders and horrific sex crimes on women and children. They've been doing it for at least 20 years, and they're operating all along the coast of Southern Louisiana! Also, they've infiltrated the police departments and the government, so they can cover up their crimes. Let's go get them!"

... a little later ...

"OK, so we killed one of the guys who was involved. Let's just quit and go home. Goodbye."

Didn't you hear what the news anchor said? The machine was already at work clearing the names of the powerful.

Yeah, but at least Hart & Cohle, and perhaps others, know that isn't true. Some group of at least six (5 participants + videographer) did horrific crimes for decades. Why no interest in pursuing them once Errol goes down?

Cole and Hart did their job. They found the man with the scarred face. It was really the only clue they had in regards to putting a face to the deeds. Cole and Hart are no longer police officers and they left the blueprint for the police to pursue all others.

But that attitude is entirely inconsistent with Cohle's whole approach. Remember that they supposedly had completed their job once before, seven years earlier when they killed Reggie LeDoux. But once Cohle figured out that the conspiracy extended beyond LeDoux, he set up his while storage unit bunker and began investigating aggressively, even though he wasn't a police officer anymore. So now we're supposed to believe Cohle just doesn't care anymore? Is Cohle going to tell Norm (the bar owner/sniper whose son disappeared) that the mystery is simply over, even though they both know it's not really over?


He hasn't even gotten out of the hospital. How do we know what they are going to do next? It had to end somewhere. I'm glad they didn't try to wrap everything up in a bow.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2014 17:37     Subject: Re:True Detective finale thread (spoilers)

https://medium.com/news-and-politics/d1b813e13581

Link to the Jennings murder story.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2014 17:36     Subject: Re:True Detective finale thread (spoilers)

I'm the SWLA poster. There are two real stories that the media has tried to link to TD - the one with th 8 dead prostitutes in Jennings and the one about the weirdness at Hosanna Church in Pontchatoula. I don't think he really modeled it after either one but weird shit happens down here.

Anonymous
Post 03/11/2014 17:26     Subject: Re:True Detective finale thread (spoilers)

Okay, I'm the PP who said this is not "real" LA and I'm also from LA. The scenery was good and some of the cops were realistic but I think it's totally incorrect to say this represents "real" LA. People will take that to mean we're all full of the occult and that there are disgusting guys like Childress and Ledoux down every random country road. Yes, it looked like Louisiana but the story was completely fictional.


There have been some articles about how this seems to be based on an actual case in southwest Louisiana. I am getting in the car for a long drive, but will look for the link when I get home if someone else doesn't find it first.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2014 16:54     Subject: True Detective finale thread (spoilers)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Alright fellas, we've got this massive conspiracy of evil SOBs committing murders and horrific sex crimes on women and children. They've been doing it for at least 20 years, and they're operating all along the coast of Southern Louisiana! Also, they've infiltrated the police departments and the government, so they can cover up their crimes. Let's go get them!"

... a little later ...

"OK, so we killed one of the guys who was involved. Let's just quit and go home. Goodbye."

Didn't you hear what the news anchor said? The machine was already at work clearing the names of the powerful.

Yeah, but at least Hart & Cohle, and perhaps others, know that isn't true. Some group of at least six (5 participants + videographer) did horrific crimes for decades. Why no interest in pursuing them once Errol goes down?

Cole and Hart did their job. They found the man with the scarred face. It was really the only clue they had in regards to putting a face to the deeds. Cole and Hart are no longer police officers and they left the blueprint for the police to pursue all others.

But that attitude is entirely inconsistent with Cohle's whole approach. Remember that they supposedly had completed their job once before, seven years earlier when they killed Reggie LeDoux. But once Cohle figured out that the conspiracy extended beyond LeDoux, he set up his while storage unit bunker and began investigating aggressively, even though he wasn't a police officer anymore. So now we're supposed to believe Cohle just doesn't care anymore? Is Cohle going to tell Norm (the bar owner/sniper whose son disappeared) that the mystery is simply over, even though they both know it's not really over?
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2014 16:41     Subject: True Detective finale thread (spoilers)

16:41 here. I should say I disagree with the first quoted PP. Agree with the second quoted PP.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2014 16:41     Subject: True Detective finale thread (spoilers)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I did not like how buddy-buddy Cohle and Rust became. The last part of the show seemed like CSI:Cohle and Rust. I would have liked a longer Carcosa/Yellow King rather than that. It seemed too pat how Papania rode up to save them with the cavalry. But overall, very good wrap up.


They were partners before the wife incident. Cohle saved Hart's life at least twice before their fight. They experienced a life and death event together. I do not see them becoming closer after such an event crazy. Hart saved Cohle's life. It would seem natural that Hart would look in on Cohle during his recovery.


I disagree. I loved the part in the hospital when Marty gave Cohle the finger and said "Don't ever change." Like, even though they've been through this major ordeal together and are bonded, they're still going to be cantankerous pricks to each other.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2014 15:34     Subject: True Detective finale thread (spoilers)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:in an earlier episode cohle told hart he had to watch the whole video to see if anyone took off their masks and they didn't.


Really? I totally missed that, but that would answer my earlier question. For some reason I thought you could see Tuttle in the tape, but I must have just assumed that because the tape was found in his house. But I guess they couldn't prove that.

Also, to the person that said that there would definitely be a second season because there were so many unanswered questions, this story is over. Next season will be an entirely different story and cast. What we got in these 8 episodes is all we'll get in terms of answers for Rust and Marty.


The ending was too philisophical. I think it would've been better if there was an opening to the next season - like pursing the political side - like the last scene could've been the camera panning out with Tuttle sitting at his desk with his feet up laughing to himself - under his dress sock a small tattoo of that weird swirly mark...It would leave the audience wondering what was next, that not everybody was caught, etc.


Yeah, except Tuttle is dead.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2014 15:19     Subject: True Detective finale thread (spoilers)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Alright fellas, we've got this massive conspiracy of evil SOBs committing murders and horrific sex crimes on women and children. They've been doing it for at least 20 years, and they're operating all along the coast of Southern Louisiana! Also, they've infiltrated the police departments and the government, so they can cover up their crimes. Let's go get them!"

... a little later ...

"OK, so we killed one of the guys who was involved. Let's just quit and go home. Goodbye."


Didn't you hear what the news anchor said? The machine was already at work clearing the names of the powerful.


Yeah, but at least Hart & Cohle, and perhaps others, know that isn't true. Some group of at least six (5 participants + videographer) did horrific crimes for decades. Why no interest in pursuing them once Errol goes down?


The last scene is them walking out of the hospital. Cohle hasn't even been discharged. They almost died. What exactly are they supposed to be doing at this point?
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2014 15:16     Subject: True Detective finale thread (spoilers)

Anonymous wrote:I did not like how buddy-buddy Cohle and Rust became. The last part of the show seemed like CSI:Cohle and Rust. I would have liked a longer Carcosa/Yellow King rather than that. It seemed too pat how Papania rode up to save them with the cavalry. But overall, very good wrap up.


They were partners before the wife incident. Cohle saved Hart's life at least twice before their fight. They experienced a life and death event together. I do not see them becoming closer after such an event crazy. Hart saved Cohle's life. It would seem natural that Hart would look in on Cohle during his recovery.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2014 15:12     Subject: True Detective finale thread (spoilers)

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Alright fellas, we've got this massive conspiracy of evil SOBs committing murders and horrific sex crimes on women and children. They've been doing it for at least 20 years, and they're operating all along the coast of Southern Louisiana! Also, they've infiltrated the police departments and the government, so they can cover up their crimes. Let's go get them!"

... a little later ...

"OK, so we killed one of the guys who was involved. Let's just quit and go home. Goodbye."


Didn't you hear what the news anchor said? The machine was already at work clearing the names of the powerful.


Yeah, but at least Hart & Cohle, and perhaps others, know that isn't true. Some group of at least six (5 participants + videographer) did horrific crimes for decades. Why no interest in pursuing them once Errol goes down?


Cole and Hart did their job. They found the man with the scarred face. It was really the only clue they had in regards to putting a face to the deeds. Cole and Hart are no longer police officers and they left the blueprint for the police to pursue all others.