Anonymous
03/04/2014 12:18
Subject: Re:25 High Schools - Rank Best to Worst
Anonymous wrote:Frankly, it is threads like this that removes all questions from my mind as to why our HS students are having the emotional problems they are having. I am only surprised the problems are not yet more prevalent at the elementary and middle school levels. It is only a matter of time.
From our experience at our Middle School and our experience at our current HS, I would say that many of the mental health issues coming to the forefront in HS were partly a result of the Middle School experience. High School, so far (currently have one Junior and one Freshman) has been much less intense/competitive and the HS has been MUCH more responsive to students mental health needs (not perfect and could definitely improve, but leagues above the Middle School). Part of it is the administration at each school and part of it is that MS is only two years and there are many there that push things along because they don't have to deal with the consequences. Unfortunately, the HS gets to deal with the consequences.
Anonymous
03/04/2014 11:48
Subject: Re:25 High Schools - Rank Best to Worst
Anonymous wrote:Earlier this year, someone posted the schools by SAT scores of Caucasian kids only. It was really interesting to see how the rankings change when you are only looking at one demographic.
Translation: Interesting to see how the rankings change when you are looking at eliminating all minorities or people of color. After all, they bring the scores down.
What is wrong with you people?!
The Asian students bring the scores up at some schools, and down at others. I think we can safely assume they bring the scores down at the poster pushing the white-only scores.
Anonymous
03/04/2014 11:12
Subject: Re:25 High Schools - Rank Best to Worst
Anonymous wrote:Earlier this year, someone posted the schools by SAT scores of Caucasian kids only. It was really interesting to see how the rankings change when you are only looking at one demographic.
Translation: Interesting to see how the rankings change when you are looking at eliminating all minorities or people of color. After all, they bring the scores down.
What is wrong with you people?!
This is more a question of SES than race, but if I am white, I'll probably look at the white kids' scores.
If I am black and middle-class, I'll have several options to slice, dice and infer the information, but the white kids' test scores would still be a valid reference point for me.
Anonymous
03/04/2014 11:06
Subject: Re:25 High Schools - Rank Best to Worst
Earlier this year, someone posted the schools by SAT scores of Caucasian kids only. It was really interesting to see how the rankings change when you are only looking at one demographic.
Translation: Interesting to see how the rankings change when you are looking at eliminating all minorities or people of color. After all, they bring the scores down.
What is wrong with you people?!
Anonymous
03/04/2014 10:28
Subject: 25 High Schools - Rank Best to Worst
The best schools are the ones that have great overall scores despite more diverse student bodies. That's a sign of great teaching.
Anonymous
03/04/2014 10:25
Subject: 25 High Schools - Rank Best to Worst
^ Great point. I wonder this too.
Anonymous
03/04/2014 10:24
Subject: 25 High Schools - Rank Best to Worst
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here are all NOVA high public schools ranked by average 2012 SAT scores
TJHSST 2186
HB Woodlawn 1828
Langley 1812
McLean 1755
Woodson 1754
Oakton 1753
Yorktown 1747
Madison 1730
Marshall 1702
Lake Braddock 1669
Robinson 1666
West Springfield 1660
FCPS average 1659
Loudoun Valley 1652
Stone Bridge 1649
Briar Woods 1645
Chantilly 1644
Herndon 1641
Arlington average. 1641
Dominion 1639
Centreville 1637
Loudoun County 1632
Woodgrove 1625
Westfield 1623
Washington-Lee 1622
Fairfax 1613
South Lakes 1609
South County 1603
Potomac Falls 1593
Freedom 1591
LOUDON AVERAGE 1590
Broad Run 1588
Heritage 1572
West Potomac 1556
Tuscarora 1553
Hayfield 1519
Annandale 1516
VIRGINIA AVERAGE 1510
Edison 1498
Falls Church 1485
NATIONAL AVERAGE 1477
Stuart 1471
Lee 1468
Park View 1447
TC Williams/ACPS AVERAGE 1436
Mount Vernon 1400
Wakefield 1398
very interesting
Earlier this year, someone posted the schools by SAT scores of Caucasian kids only. It was really interesting to see how the rankings change when you are only looking at one demographic.
Yes. It's not rocket science. Some of the schools people chastize for having lower scores actually are higher once you control by demographic.
...and I mean higher than the ones where 'control' wasn't used.
I found the old post, but it only lists a few schools. It would be interesting to see the whole county listed that way.
TJ 2215
Langley 1841
Woodson 1830
Marshall 1826
McLean 1803
Madison 1792
Oakton 1786
I wonder how many students at TJ would have been at the above schools and how their scores would have impacted the averages. Some school are creamed more than others. Or how many attract more students that need extra help, because they have a great set of teachers for their childs specific issues. You can slice and dice it as many times as you want to get the answer you are seeking.
Generally, I think the schools in Fairfax county benefit from having so many well prepared and well supported students and that impacts the scores more than anything.
Anonymous
03/04/2014 10:22
Subject: Re:25 High Schools - Rank Best to Worst
I think the order for the Asian students at those schools was different.
Anonymous
03/04/2014 10:18
Subject: 25 High Schools - Rank Best to Worst
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here are all NOVA high public schools ranked by average 2012 SAT scores
TJHSST 2186
HB Woodlawn 1828
Langley 1812
McLean 1755
Woodson 1754
Oakton 1753
Yorktown 1747
Madison 1730
Marshall 1702
Lake Braddock 1669
Robinson 1666
West Springfield 1660
FCPS average 1659
Loudoun Valley 1652
Stone Bridge 1649
Briar Woods 1645
Chantilly 1644
Herndon 1641
Arlington average. 1641
Dominion 1639
Centreville 1637
Loudoun County 1632
Woodgrove 1625
Westfield 1623
Washington-Lee 1622
Fairfax 1613
South Lakes 1609
South County 1603
Potomac Falls 1593
Freedom 1591
LOUDON AVERAGE 1590
Broad Run 1588
Heritage 1572
West Potomac 1556
Tuscarora 1553
Hayfield 1519
Annandale 1516
VIRGINIA AVERAGE 1510
Edison 1498
Falls Church 1485
NATIONAL AVERAGE 1477
Stuart 1471
Lee 1468
Park View 1447
TC Williams/ACPS AVERAGE 1436
Mount Vernon 1400
Wakefield 1398
very interesting
Earlier this year, someone posted the schools by SAT scores of Caucasian kids only. It was really interesting to see how the rankings change when you are only looking at one demographic.
Yes. It's not rocket science. Some of the schools people chastize for having lower scores actually are higher once you control by demographic.
...and I mean higher than the ones where 'control' wasn't used.
I found the old post, but it only lists a few schools. It would be interesting to see the whole county listed that way.
TJ 2215
Langley 1841
Woodson 1830
Marshall 1826
McLean 1803
Madison 1792
Oakton 1786
Anonymous
03/04/2014 10:16
Subject: 25 High Schools - Rank Best to Worst
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here are all NOVA high public schools ranked by average 2012 SAT scores
TJHSST 2186
HB Woodlawn 1828
Langley 1812
McLean 1755
Woodson 1754
Oakton 1753
Yorktown 1747
Madison 1730
Marshall 1702
Lake Braddock 1669
Robinson 1666
West Springfield 1660
FCPS average 1659
Loudoun Valley 1652
Stone Bridge 1649
Briar Woods 1645
Chantilly 1644
Herndon 1641
Arlington average. 1641
Dominion 1639
Centreville 1637
Loudoun County 1632
Woodgrove 1625
Westfield 1623
Washington-Lee 1622
Fairfax 1613
South Lakes 1609
South County 1603
Potomac Falls 1593
Freedom 1591
LOUDON AVERAGE 1590
Broad Run 1588
Heritage 1572
West Potomac 1556
Tuscarora 1553
Hayfield 1519
Annandale 1516
VIRGINIA AVERAGE 1510
Edison 1498
Falls Church 1485
NATIONAL AVERAGE 1477
Stuart 1471
Lee 1468
Park View 1447
TC Williams/ACPS AVERAGE 1436
Mount Vernon 1400
Wakefield 1398
very interesting
Earlier this year, someone posted the schools by SAT scores of Caucasian kids only. It was really interesting to see how the rankings change when you are only looking at one demographic.
Yes. It's not rocket science. Some of the schools people chastize for having lower scores actually are higher once you control by demographic.
...and I mean higher than the ones where 'control' wasn't used.
Anonymous
03/04/2014 10:15
Subject: 25 High Schools - Rank Best to Worst
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here are all NOVA high public schools ranked by average 2012 SAT scores
TJHSST 2186
HB Woodlawn 1828
Langley 1812
McLean 1755
Woodson 1754
Oakton 1753
Yorktown 1747
Madison 1730
Marshall 1702
Lake Braddock 1669
Robinson 1666
West Springfield 1660
FCPS average 1659
Loudoun Valley 1652
Stone Bridge 1649
Briar Woods 1645
Chantilly 1644
Herndon 1641
Arlington average. 1641
Dominion 1639
Centreville 1637
Loudoun County 1632
Woodgrove 1625
Westfield 1623
Washington-Lee 1622
Fairfax 1613
South Lakes 1609
South County 1603
Potomac Falls 1593
Freedom 1591
LOUDON AVERAGE 1590
Broad Run 1588
Heritage 1572
West Potomac 1556
Tuscarora 1553
Hayfield 1519
Annandale 1516
VIRGINIA AVERAGE 1510
Edison 1498
Falls Church 1485
NATIONAL AVERAGE 1477
Stuart 1471
Lee 1468
Park View 1447
TC Williams/ACPS AVERAGE 1436
Mount Vernon 1400
Wakefield 1398
very interesting
Earlier this year, someone posted the schools by SAT scores of Caucasian kids only. It was really interesting to see how the rankings change when you are only looking at one demographic.
Yes. It's not rocket science. Some of the schools people chastize for having lower scores actually are higher once you control by demographic.
Anonymous
03/04/2014 10:09
Subject: Re:25 High Schools - Rank Best to Worst
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is a large enough cohort of serious students in all the high schools named- so if the student is intelligent, motivated (for a teen), and well supported (at home), they will be able to find their niche. It may be easier to be in leadership positions in the "lower" ranked areas, but there will still be competition for those spots.
If the student has some special needs (in the broad sense, not just documented issues), there is some flexibility as all students can choose between an AP and an IB school. The student and his/her parents can determine which school may be a better fit.
Yes---which is a good thing for a motivated kid!!
I always say 'better to be big fish in small pond'.
Fortune cookies for a living?
Anonymous
03/04/2014 10:07
Subject: 25 High Schools - Rank Best to Worst
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here are all NOVA high public schools ranked by average 2012 SAT scores
TJHSST 2186
HB Woodlawn 1828
Langley 1812
McLean 1755
Woodson 1754
Oakton 1753
Yorktown 1747
Madison 1730
Marshall 1702
Lake Braddock 1669
Robinson 1666
West Springfield 1660
FCPS average 1659
Loudoun Valley 1652
Stone Bridge 1649
Briar Woods 1645
Chantilly 1644
Herndon 1641
Arlington average. 1641
Dominion 1639
Centreville 1637
Loudoun County 1632
Woodgrove 1625
Westfield 1623
Washington-Lee 1622
Fairfax 1613
South Lakes 1609
South County 1603
Potomac Falls 1593
Freedom 1591
LOUDON AVERAGE 1590
Broad Run 1588
Heritage 1572
West Potomac 1556
Tuscarora 1553
Hayfield 1519
Annandale 1516
VIRGINIA AVERAGE 1510
Edison 1498
Falls Church 1485
NATIONAL AVERAGE 1477
Stuart 1471
Lee 1468
Park View 1447
TC Williams/ACPS AVERAGE 1436
Mount Vernon 1400
Wakefield 1398
very interesting
Earlier this year, someone posted the schools by SAT scores of Caucasian kids only. It was really interesting to see how the rankings change when you are only looking at one demographic.
Anonymous
03/04/2014 10:06
Subject: Re:25 High Schools - Rank Best to Worst
Anonymous wrote:There is a large enough cohort of serious students in all the high schools named- so if the student is intelligent, motivated (for a teen), and well supported (at home), they will be able to find their niche. It may be easier to be in leadership positions in the "lower" ranked areas, but there will still be competition for those spots.
If the student has some special needs (in the broad sense, not just documented issues), there is some flexibility as all students can choose between an AP and an IB school. The student and his/her parents can determine which school may be a better fit.
Yes---which is a good thing for a motivated kid!!
I always say 'better to be big fish in small pond'.
Anonymous
03/04/2014 09:39
Subject: Re:25 High Schools - Rank Best to Worst
Anonymous wrote:I noticed that on all the lists attempted Falls Church High is ranked higher than Stuart. Is that really true? From the negative postings about Falls Church on this forum I thought it would be the opposite.
It's really true that Falls Church was ranked higher than Stuart on all the lists attempted on this thread.
If it matters to you, SAT scores at Stuart last year were about 40 points higher than at Falls Church. And, if you look at information on student transfers, you'll typically find that Stuart gets more in-bound transfers than transfers out of the school, whereas the opposite has been the case in recent years at Falls Church.
Your kid(s) could probably do fine at either school.