Anonymous wrote:Until we show up to your school "just for free daycare" and "aren't willing to commit to the school community" because we "plan to pull out after a year and head right back to JKLMM."

Nonetheless I agree with the PP who votes in favor of resolving overcrowding at our Ward 3 ES's before adding an extra grade.

Go to Appletree--it is only for preschool.

Until we show up to your school "just for free daycare" and "aren't willing to commit to the school community" because we "plan to pull out after a year and head right back to JKLMM."

Nonetheless I agree with the PP who votes in favor of resolving overcrowding at our Ward 3 ES's before adding an extra grade.

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Anonymous wrote:1. A top daycare uses DCPS curriculum, therefore = PS3
2. Tuition/fees/fundraising at top Ward 3 daycare = $20k
3. I live in Ward 3. We and our neighbors are pushing for ps3 at our ES.

Equality in education is a 2 way street. Can't ask Ward 3 parents to give up rights to their neighborhood MS and HS without anttempting to mitigate some of the pain.

Not to quibble because it's still a lot of money, but for example, BCDC (a good daycare in Ward 3) has this tuition: http://www.bcdconline.org/tuition/

So just under $17k ...which includes a full day and the summer. There are non extra fees and fundraising is minimal and not an expected thing whatsoever.

So enter the lottery and send your kid to a school that's - horrors! - outside your ward. The majority of parents in DC already do. Do you think we ALL walk our kids down the street to our neighborhood DCPS or nearby charter school? You are so totally out of touch. Only ~25% of students enrolled in public schools in DC attend their "neighborhood" school. So lottery to send your kid where you want to send him. Don't like the choices around you? Wake up! Not so many of the rest of us do, either.

I hope the lottery gods are watching you and act accordingly.

+1. Ward 3 parents are more than welcome for PK3 at my neighborhood school. We always have spots available at the start of the year.

Anonymous wrote:1. A top daycare uses DCPS curriculum, therefore = PS3
2. Tuition/fees/fundraising at top Ward 3 daycare = $20k
3. I live in Ward 3. We and our neighbors are pushing for ps3 at our ES.

Equality in education is a 2 way street. Can't ask Ward 3 parents to give up rights to their neighborhood MS and HS without anttempting to mitigate some of the pain.

Wait what? Who is asking Ward 3 parents to do that?

If you're hinting at potential redrawing of boundaries that will send some families from a Deal feeder to a Hardy feeder, that straw man won't stand.

Let's break it down. Why does DCPS provide preschool 3, what purpose does it serve, is that needed in ward 3 and at what cost?

I believe it provides preschool 3 (1) to provide high quality preschool options to families that do not have such options and (2) to provide a reason for wary families with high expectations to try their local dcps with relatively low risk. Are either if these things needed in ward 3? Clearly not. Is it a bonus that it is free daycare? Yes. Can ward 3 families take advantage of this bonus at relatively low cost that many other families manage (traveling across the city daily for example)? Why yes they can. Do I feel this is unfair? Not in the least, and I am a ward 3 parent.

This is the kind of investment that needs to be made across the city to create momentum elsewhere for the kinds of schools that ward 3 has and that are beginning to blossom all over the city. They get more other money too, because those kids need more to be successful.

I am not supportive of a city wide lottery. I have lots of thoughts that are about what is best for my kids and my family. I am a self interested parent and am therefore far from perfect. But even I know this line of whine is beyond the pale.

No, actually, it only goes one way. Every Ward has elementary schools. ONLY Ward 3 does not have PS3.

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Anonymous wrote:My child attends PS3 3 blocks from our affordable house on a transit line and a block from a big park. I guess we Ward 4 families just prioritize family more than some in Ward 3. Why would you move to Ward 3 knowing you couldn't get PS3 there or affordable home or reasonable commute. Priorities!

Really Ward 4? You want to play the ""you should have known before you moved there" card? I don't think you will like how that turns out.

Uh, I'm pretty sure this poster is parodying how every thread about every other ward than Ward 3 turns into, "Why did you move there if you knew the schools weren't good." Goes both ways, doesn't it?

Not every one can afford to live in in ward three. We can play the you should have known forever bit the fact is most of us have different life circumstances. Point is we all benefit from an overall good system. Complaing about ps3 doesn't get us there .

Anonymous wrote:My child attends PS3 3 blocks from our affordable house on a transit line and a block from a big park. I guess we Ward 4 families just prioritize family more than some in Ward 3. Why would you move to Ward 3 knowing you couldn't get PS3 there or affordable home or reasonable commute. Priorities!

Really Ward 4? You want to play the ""you should have known before you moved there" card? I don't think you will like how that turns out.

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Anonymous wrote:PS3 is part of DC's implementation of HeadStart and a method to bring parents in the door to under attended DCPS schools. PS3 for WOTP is a poor policy choice.

But I thought we were "One City"? Shouldn't all people have access to the same opportunities?

You do have the same access/opportunities/chances. What is so hard to understand about that, OP?

So in your world, having access to PS3 at your close bye neighborhood school is equivalent to a Ward 3 parent having to get their 3 year old up at 6am and taking a 45 minute bus/metro ride to a PS3 program on the other side the park? Really, that's the "same" access?

+1. What some PPs don't seem to recognize is that Ward 3 residents are actively being discriminated against by the combination of a) essentially no PS3 in their schools, b) the proximity preference in favor of other Wards (where PS3 slots are) that make it very difficult if not impossible for Ward 3 kids to access public PS3. It is clear that Ward 3 kids DOES NOT have the same access/ opportunities to PS3 as other Wards.

Now, this is obviously not the end of the world, but it is a reality.

Boo freaking waaaah.

Kids in Wards 1, 4, & 5 have no access to stand alone middle schools. And plenty of kids in Wards 1, 4, and 5 *do* commute all over the city for better educational opportunities.

Great point! I have no middle school here in Ward 4, the distance I have to travel is about the same you would have to travel to Reed it Shepherd Park elementary.

My child attends PS3 3 blocks from our affordable house on a transit line and a block from a big park. I guess we Ward 4 families just prioritize family more than some in Ward 3. Why would you move to Ward 3 knowing you couldn't get PS3 there or affordable home or reasonable commute. Priorities!

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Anonymous wrote:1. A top daycare uses DCPS curriculum, therefore = PS3
2. Tuition/fees/fundraising at top Ward 3 daycare = $20k
3. I live in Ward 3. We and our neighbors are pushing for ps3 at our ES.

Equality in education is a 2 way street. Can't ask Ward 3 parents to give up rights to their neighborhood MS and HS without anttempting to mitigate some of the pain.

Not to quibble because it's still a lot of money, but for example, BCDC (a good daycare in Ward 3) has this tuition: http://www.bcdconline.org/tuition/

So just under $17k ...which includes a full day and the summer. There are non extra fees and fundraising is minimal and not an expected thing whatsoever.

So enter the lottery and send your kid to a school that's - horrors! - outside your ward. The majority of parents in DC already do. Do you think we ALL walk our kids down the street to our neighborhood DCPS or nearby charter school? You are so totally out of touch. Only ~25% of students enrolled in public schools in DC attend their "neighborhood" school. So lottery to send your kid where you want to send him. Don't like the choices around you? Wake up! Not so many of the rest of us do, either.

I hope the lottery gods are watching you and act accordingly.

Anonymous wrote:1. A top daycare uses DCPS curriculum, therefore = PS3
2. Tuition/fees/fundraising at top Ward 3 daycare = $20k
3. I live in Ward 3. We and our neighbors are pushing for ps3 at our ES.

Equality in education is a 2 way street. Can't ask Ward 3 parents to give up rights to their neighborhood MS and HS without anttempting to mitigate some of the pain.

Not to quibble because it's still a lot of money, but for example, BCDC (a good daycare in Ward 3) has this tuition: http://www.bcdconline.org/tuition/

So just under $17k ...which includes a full day and the summer. There are non extra fees and fundraising is minimal and not an expected thing whatsoever.

Anonymous wrote:1. A top daycare uses DCPS curriculum, therefore = PS3
2. Tuition/fees/fundraising at top Ward 3 daycare = $20k
3. I live in Ward 3. We and our neighbors are pushing for ps3 at our ES.

Equality in education is a 2 way street. Can't ask Ward 3 parents to give up rights to their neighborhood MS and HS without anttempting to mitigate some of the pain.

You are the kind of resident that gives ward 3 a bad name. The goal of reform is better educational out ones for more children in this city. Free daycare for ward 3 does not further that goal. You are a perfect example of the tragedy of the commons.