Anonymous
02/05/2014 10:15
Subject: Re:Kenmore Middle School in Arlington
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Harvard
Wake-- 11/0 (0%)
i knew it. too good to be true.
No, I don't think so. The Naviance data posted by a PP combines several years. The data I posted from Arlington Magazine is for 2013 only. There were no Wakefield students accepted to Harvard in 2013 (no Yorktown or HB students either), but there certainly could have been in 2012 or 2011, and those results would be reflected in Naviance.
Anonymous
02/05/2014 09:57
Subject: Re:Kenmore Middle School in Arlington
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Found my copy of Arlington magazine from September, which had applicants and acceptances for the Arlington high schools (and McLean HS).
I focused mostly at the most popular schools, with the most applicants, because otherwise you can't tell if the same 15 smart kids are applying to the same top schools. These are acceptances for the class of 2013.
William & Mary
HBW-- 32 applicants/14 acceptances (44%)
Wake-- 25/8 (32%)
WL-- 77/36 (47%)
York-- 85/34 (40%)
UVA
HBW-- 31/13 (42%)
Wake-- 28/8 (29%)
WL-- 98/43 (44%)
York-- 114/38 (33%)
VA Tech
HBW-- 21/9 (43%)
Wake-- 37/12 (32%)
WL-- 107/57 (53%)
York-- 113/63 (56%)
Mary Washington
HBW-- 34/19 (56%)
Wake-- 24/9 (38%)
WL-- 47/28 (60%)
York-- 56/43 (77%)
George Mason
HBW-- 24/14 (58%)
Wake-- 52/18 (35%)
WL-- 103/54 (52%)
York-- 82/39 (48%)
James Madison
HBW-- 34/13 (38%)
Wake-- 31/9 (29%)
WL-- 133/62 (47%)
York-- 125/74 (59%)
....and just for kicks,
Harvard
HBW-- 2/0 (0%)
Wake-- 11/0 (0%)
WL-- 13/2 (15%)
York-- 14/0 (0%)
Yale
HBW-- 9/0 (0%)
Wake-- 7/1 (14%)
WL-- 10/2 (20%)
York-- 8/0 (0%)
Princeton
HBW-- 5/0 (0%)
Wake-- 6/1 (17%)
WL-- 10/3 (30%)
York-- 17/1 (6%)
Stanford
HBW-- 6/1 (17%)
Wake-- 8/1 (13%)
WL-- 10/2 (20%)
York-- 10/1 (10%)
MIT
HBW-- 0/0 (n/a)
Wake-- 5/1 (20%)
WL-- 6/2 (33%)
York-- 8/0 (0%)
Where are the Mclean stats
They were in the magazine too. The conculsion was that for the elite schools--W-L had the most acceptances. (elite meaning--Ivies and privates of similar caliber).
Anonymous
02/05/2014 09:56
Subject: Re:Kenmore Middle School in Arlington
Anonymous wrote:
Harvard
Wake-- 11/0 (0%)
i knew it. too good to be true.
Anonymous
02/05/2014 09:49
Subject: Re:Kenmore Middle School in Arlington
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Where are the Mclean stats
I left them out because who cares about McLean?
Seriously, I thought we were talking about APS, so I didn't bother looking at them.
I am interested in the McLean stats because yorktown is often compared to McLean.
As a home buyer McLean and yorktown areas border each other.
Anonymous
02/05/2014 09:49
Subject: Kenmore Middle School in Arlington
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think some parents have a vested interest in knocking down Wakefield because they paid A LOT more money for their homes than necessary. Need to preserve their investment, after all.
Smart kids, with smart, involved parents, will gravitate toward similarly-focused peers, regardless of the name of their school.
The opposite is more likely. People tried to save money by buying in an area assigned to a bad school, and now they want others to bail them out, so they try to make Wakefield sound better than it is by exaggerating the number of students in a graduating class headed off to top schools. Yorktown and W-L consistently deliver better results.
Who is asking anyone to "bail them out"? People who bought in S. Arlington are defending it.
If Yorktown and W-L are inherently so much better, why spend so much time tearing down a non-consequential school?
And OP, if you look at APS' capacity maps, any elementary mapped to Kenmore is probably going to end up at Wakefield in a couple of years, esp if it is mapped to W-L now. W-L is already out of room and Wakefield still has lots of capacity. Areas just north of Route 50 will probably end up shifted to S. Arlington middle and high schools within 5 years.
+1. I can't see any other solution.
Anonymous
02/05/2014 09:47
Subject: Re:Kenmore Middle School in Arlington
Anonymous wrote:
Where are the Mclean stats
I left them out because who cares about McLean?
Seriously, I thought we were talking about APS, so I didn't bother looking at them.
Anonymous
02/05/2014 08:44
Subject: Kenmore Middle School in Arlington
Even though test scores at wakefield are lowerlolower than Washington Lee or Yorktown that doesn't mean they are bad. People seem to have this idea that unless something is #1 it is bad. There is a LOT of room between being the number #1 school and being a horrible school.
And if you look at the test breakdown of Yorktown vs. Wakefield by category (which includes race, disabilities, socio-economic status) the numbers are not that much different. Which IMO goes to show that teh only reason wakefield gets lower scores is because it has a higher group of individuals who do not test well. This is NOT indicative of the quality of teaching or education IMO.
But you north arlington snobs can keep on keeping on with your nonsense.
And if you look at the test breakdown of Yorktown vs. Wakefield by category (which includes race, disabilities, socio-economic status) the numbers are not that much different. Which IMO goes to show that teh only reason wakefield gets lower scores is because it has a higher group of individuals who do not test well. This is NOT indicative of the quality of teaching or education IMO.
But you north arlington snobs can keep on keeping on with your nonsense.
Anonymous
02/05/2014 08:06
Subject: Kenmore Middle School in Arlington
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think some parents have a vested interest in knocking down Wakefield because they paid A LOT more money for their homes than necessary. Need to preserve their investment, after all.
Smart kids, with smart, involved parents, will gravitate toward similarly-focused peers, regardless of the name of their school.
The opposite is more likely. People tried to save money by buying in an area assigned to a bad school, and now they want others to bail them out, so they try to make Wakefield sound better than it is by exaggerating the number of students in a graduating class headed off to top schools. Yorktown and W-L consistently deliver better results.
Who is asking anyone to "bail them out"? People who bought in S. Arlington are defending it.
If Yorktown and W-L are inherently so much better, why spend so much time tearing down a non-consequential school?
And OP, if you look at APS' capacity maps, any elementary mapped to Kenmore is probably going to end up at Wakefield in a couple of years, esp if it is mapped to W-L now. W-L is already out of room and Wakefield still has lots of capacity. Areas just north of Route 50 will probably end up shifted to S. Arlington middle and high schools within 5 years.
Anonymous
02/05/2014 00:16
Subject: Re:Kenmore Middle School in Arlington
Anonymous wrote:Found my copy of Arlington magazine from September, which had applicants and acceptances for the Arlington high schools (and McLean HS).
I focused mostly at the most popular schools, with the most applicants, because otherwise you can't tell if the same 15 smart kids are applying to the same top schools. These are acceptances for the class of 2013.
William & Mary
HBW-- 32 applicants/14 acceptances (44%)
Wake-- 25/8 (32%)
WL-- 77/36 (47%)
York-- 85/34 (40%)
UVA
HBW-- 31/13 (42%)
Wake-- 28/8 (29%)
WL-- 98/43 (44%)
York-- 114/38 (33%)
VA Tech
HBW-- 21/9 (43%)
Wake-- 37/12 (32%)
WL-- 107/57 (53%)
York-- 113/63 (56%)
Mary Washington
HBW-- 34/19 (56%)
Wake-- 24/9 (38%)
WL-- 47/28 (60%)
York-- 56/43 (77%)
George Mason
HBW-- 24/14 (58%)
Wake-- 52/18 (35%)
WL-- 103/54 (52%)
York-- 82/39 (48%)
James Madison
HBW-- 34/13 (38%)
Wake-- 31/9 (29%)
WL-- 133/62 (47%)
York-- 125/74 (59%)
....and just for kicks,
Harvard
HBW-- 2/0 (0%)
Wake-- 11/0 (0%)
WL-- 13/2 (15%)
York-- 14/0 (0%)
Yale
HBW-- 9/0 (0%)
Wake-- 7/1 (14%)
WL-- 10/2 (20%)
York-- 8/0 (0%)
Princeton
HBW-- 5/0 (0%)
Wake-- 6/1 (17%)
WL-- 10/3 (30%)
York-- 17/1 (6%)
Stanford
HBW-- 6/1 (17%)
Wake-- 8/1 (13%)
WL-- 10/2 (20%)
York-- 10/1 (10%)
MIT
HBW-- 0/0 (n/a)
Wake-- 5/1 (20%)
WL-- 6/2 (33%)
York-- 8/0 (0%)
Where are the Mclean stats
Anonymous
02/04/2014 23:56
Subject: Re:Kenmore Middle School in Arlington
Found my copy of Arlington magazine from September, which had applicants and acceptances for the Arlington high schools (and McLean HS).
I focused mostly at the most popular schools, with the most applicants, because otherwise you can't tell if the same 15 smart kids are applying to the same top schools. These are acceptances for the class of 2013.
William & Mary
HBW-- 32 applicants/14 acceptances (44%)
Wake-- 25/8 (32%)
WL-- 77/36 (47%)
York-- 85/34 (40%)
UVA
HBW-- 31/13 (42%)
Wake-- 28/8 (29%)
WL-- 98/43 (44%)
York-- 114/38 (33%)
VA Tech
HBW-- 21/9 (43%)
Wake-- 37/12 (32%)
WL-- 107/57 (53%)
York-- 113/63 (56%)
Mary Washington
HBW-- 34/19 (56%)
Wake-- 24/9 (38%)
WL-- 47/28 (60%)
York-- 56/43 (77%)
George Mason
HBW-- 24/14 (58%)
Wake-- 52/18 (35%)
WL-- 103/54 (52%)
York-- 82/39 (48%)
James Madison
HBW-- 34/13 (38%)
Wake-- 31/9 (29%)
WL-- 133/62 (47%)
York-- 125/74 (59%)
....and just for kicks,
Harvard
HBW-- 2/0 (0%)
Wake-- 11/0 (0%)
WL-- 13/2 (15%)
York-- 14/0 (0%)
Yale
HBW-- 9/0 (0%)
Wake-- 7/1 (14%)
WL-- 10/2 (20%)
York-- 8/0 (0%)
Princeton
HBW-- 5/0 (0%)
Wake-- 6/1 (17%)
WL-- 10/3 (30%)
York-- 17/1 (6%)
Stanford
HBW-- 6/1 (17%)
Wake-- 8/1 (13%)
WL-- 10/2 (20%)
York-- 10/1 (10%)
MIT
HBW-- 0/0 (n/a)
Wake-- 5/1 (20%)
WL-- 6/2 (33%)
York-- 8/0 (0%)
I focused mostly at the most popular schools, with the most applicants, because otherwise you can't tell if the same 15 smart kids are applying to the same top schools. These are acceptances for the class of 2013.
William & Mary
HBW-- 32 applicants/14 acceptances (44%)
Wake-- 25/8 (32%)
WL-- 77/36 (47%)
York-- 85/34 (40%)
UVA
HBW-- 31/13 (42%)
Wake-- 28/8 (29%)
WL-- 98/43 (44%)
York-- 114/38 (33%)
VA Tech
HBW-- 21/9 (43%)
Wake-- 37/12 (32%)
WL-- 107/57 (53%)
York-- 113/63 (56%)
Mary Washington
HBW-- 34/19 (56%)
Wake-- 24/9 (38%)
WL-- 47/28 (60%)
York-- 56/43 (77%)
George Mason
HBW-- 24/14 (58%)
Wake-- 52/18 (35%)
WL-- 103/54 (52%)
York-- 82/39 (48%)
James Madison
HBW-- 34/13 (38%)
Wake-- 31/9 (29%)
WL-- 133/62 (47%)
York-- 125/74 (59%)
....and just for kicks,
Harvard
HBW-- 2/0 (0%)
Wake-- 11/0 (0%)
WL-- 13/2 (15%)
York-- 14/0 (0%)
Yale
HBW-- 9/0 (0%)
Wake-- 7/1 (14%)
WL-- 10/2 (20%)
York-- 8/0 (0%)
Princeton
HBW-- 5/0 (0%)
Wake-- 6/1 (17%)
WL-- 10/3 (30%)
York-- 17/1 (6%)
Stanford
HBW-- 6/1 (17%)
Wake-- 8/1 (13%)
WL-- 10/2 (20%)
York-- 10/1 (10%)
MIT
HBW-- 0/0 (n/a)
Wake-- 5/1 (20%)
WL-- 6/2 (33%)
York-- 8/0 (0%)
Anonymous
02/04/2014 21:40
Subject: Kenmore Middle School in Arlington
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: People tried to save money by buying in an area assigned to a bad school, and now they want others to bail them out, so they try to make Wakefield sound better than it is by exaggerating the number of students in a graduating class headed off to top schools.
as recent as ten years ago people were saying the exact same thing about W-L ...
by that rate Wakefield in 20 and wl another 10. If the other Metro developments don't take away Arlington's luster.
Anonymous
02/04/2014 21:04
Subject: Kenmore Middle School in Arlington
Anonymous wrote: People tried to save money by buying in an area assigned to a bad school, and now they want others to bail them out, so they try to make Wakefield sound better than it is by exaggerating the number of students in a graduating class headed off to top schools.
as recent as ten years ago people were saying the exact same thing about W-L ...
Anonymous
02/04/2014 20:32
Subject: Kenmore Middle School in Arlington
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think some parents have a vested interest in knocking down Wakefield because they paid A LOT more money for their homes than necessary. Need to preserve their investment, after all.
Smart kids, with smart, involved parents, will gravitate toward similarly-focused peers, regardless of the name of their school.
The opposite is more likely. People tried to save money by buying in an area assigned to a bad school, and now they want others to bail them out, so they try to make Wakefield sound better than it is by exaggerating the number of students in a graduating class headed off to top schools. Yorktown and W-L consistently deliver better results.
yorktown not wl
Anonymous
02/04/2014 20:31
Subject: Re:Kenmore Middle School in Arlington
Anonymous wrote:OP here. This neighborhood is Ashlawn/Kenmore/W&L, so Wakefield isn't really an issue here.
too early to say
Anonymous
02/04/2014 20:28
Subject: Kenmore Middle School in Arlington
Anonymous wrote:I think some parents have a vested interest in knocking down Wakefield because they paid A LOT more money for their homes than necessary. Need to preserve their investment, after all.
Smart kids, with smart, involved parents, will gravitate toward similarly-focused peers, regardless of the name of their school.
The opposite is more likely. People tried to save money by buying in an area assigned to a bad school, and now they want others to bail them out, so they try to make Wakefield sound better than it is by exaggerating the number of students in a graduating class headed off to top schools. Yorktown and W-L consistently deliver better results.