Anonymous
Post 01/28/2014 21:31     Subject: I am Catholic and thank God for my birth control
Anonymous wrote:Humanaev vitae has errors. Popes in the past and present have been infallible and do make mistakes. No divinity is going to damn you for using birth control. Using your head is what you should do. Sometimes using the popes head does not work.

But I promise, if I had a house as big as what the pope has, I would multiply until thy kingdom come


The problem is that women around the world may not be as sophisticated as you are, and able to "use their heads" despite what the authority of the Church is telling them. If they can even FIND birth control in their country, which if it's officially Catholic, could be problematic.

And that is why the Church's position on BC harms women and ought to make all Catholics feel ashamed of the Church.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2014 10:56     Subject: Re:I am Catholic and thank God for my birth control
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm Catholic, but I'm a firm believer in birth control. I actually support population control for environmental reasons. I support birth control to decrease poverty. I wish that more women will utilize birth control instead of bringing children into the world that they can't afford to take care of. I also believe in sterilizing criminals, those who are mentally insane, and parents who abuse their children.

I used to be a radical pro-lifer. However, after spending 20 plus years working in social services and the criminal justice system I realized that birth control and abortion are absolute necessaries in order to decrease some of the social ills that we have in society. Our government can't educate, feed, provide housing, and other resources to every poor child that is born in America. Also, if a female gets raped, then she shouldn't be forced to have the rapist's baby. We have 12 year olds here in DC pushing strollers. Parents are dropping the ball with teaching their children about safe sex. Now the church wants to legislate laws inside of my uterus. This crap has got to stop! Women need to have complete control and authority over their own bodies. Not everyone wants a child and not everyone in our society deserves a child either. Some people should never bring a child into the world period!


The church has no place or no right inside of a women's uterus!


Well said. So how do you reconcile that with your membership in (and implicit support of) the Catholic Church?


I'm a member by default. I was born and raised into the faith. I attended Catholic Schools. Since 90% of my relatives are Roman Catholic, I would literally have to disowned them in order to break away from Catholicism. I love my family and I'm willing to place my personal beliefs aside in order to have them in my life. Every baptism, wedding, funeral, or family social event revolves around the church. My parish is my childhood church and it is where I got married. I'm not a ride or die Catholic. I take the good and throw out the bad. However, since I'm involved in social services and community outreach projects I associate with the Archdiocese of Washington on those matters. Don't get me wrong as much as I disagree with some of the teachings of Catholicism, there are things that I really do like about the Roman Catholic faith. Being of service to others, helping impoverished families, helping inner-city children obtain scholarships to attend Catholic Schools, the strong sense of community, and etc. are the reasons why I stick around. My relationship with the Roman Catholic Church is a love hate relationship. It's like having a dysfunctional, mentally challenged relative, but you still love them despite their shortcomings.


I will admit that as I have matured over the years, the Episcopal and Unitarian Universalist Churches really appeal to me.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2014 00:22     Subject: I am Catholic and thank God for my birth control
Anonymous wrote:If fetal life is so important to God and Jesus, why did they spend little to no time talking about it in the Bible?

God is all-knowing so it's not like He didn't know about the coming science of abortion, birth control, etc. Right?


And why does God do so many abortions himself? That is, miscarriage
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2014 23:03     Subject: I am Catholic and thank God for my birth control
Humanaev vitae has errors. Popes in the past and present have been infallible and do make mistakes. No divinity is going to damn you for using birth control. Using your head is what you should do. Sometimes using the popes head does not work.

But I promise, if I had a house as big as what the pope has, I would multiply until thy kingdom come
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2014 21:35     Subject: I am Catholic and thank God for my birth control
Some Catholic hospitals are also promoting a "wait and see" attitude when confronted with patients who have life-threatening ectopic pregnancies. It is criminal.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2014 21:29     Subject: I am Catholic and thank God for my birth control
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Is the catholic church the only christian faith that officially opposes birth control? what about abortion? Honest question. You always hear about the catholic position, but do all protestants sanction these practices?


If you only eat organic do you believe birth control is okay?


Wtf is this supposed to suggest? Do you have brain damage or jus a low iq?


As the PP pointed out, the Catholic Church is not the only group that thinks natural family planning is better for your body.

I don't care if somebody wants to take birth control any more than I care if somebody eats 5 Big Macs in a sitting but it is not really that good for your body.


On what basis do you claim that the Catholic Church has concerns about birth control and women's health?
I thought the argument was that we all have to be "open to life". God chooses if a sex act makes a child, not us.


How about God chooses who gets cancer so we should just let it run it's course.

Such medieval thinking. I knew of a woman in my hometown in the 1970s who died in childbirth, leaving 4 kids motherless; her doctor had told her she shouldn't get pregnant anymore because another pregnancy would kill her. Her priest told her she couldn't use artificial birth control, so she didn't. And of course she got pregnant. This is why people say the Catholic Church devalues women's health. If my doctor told me I shouldn't ever get pregnant again, I'd be scheduling my tubal ligation for the next day.


Urban legend. The Catholic Church does not support this no birth control if the mother's life could be in danger, just like it is okay to take birth control if you have endometriosis or you can take it for acne.



It's not an urban legend. This was someone in my hometown. The priest told her it was a sin to use artificial birth control. If a priest told her it was okay to use artifiical birth control (including condoms) or to get a tubal ligation he'd be going against Church doctrine. Ever heard of Humanae Vitae? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanae_Vitae

That's the document issued in 1968 by Pope Paul VI that explicitly states that women should just use NFP if they want to space their children our or have some health concerns about getting pregnant. Yes, the Church opposes tubal ligation in a case where a woman has been told by her doctor never to get pregnant again or risk serious health consequences. However, a woman could get a hysterectomy as long as it's about curing a disease and not warding off pregnancy. How thoughtful.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2014 14:58     Subject: I am Catholic and thank God for my birth control
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is the catholic church the only christian faith that officially opposes birth control? what about abortion? Honest question. You always hear about the catholic position, but do all protestants sanction these practices?


If you only eat organic do you believe birth control is okay?


Wtf is this supposed to suggest? Do you have brain damage or jus a low iq?


As the PP pointed out, the Catholic Church is not the only group that thinks natural family planning is better for your body.

I don't care if somebody wants to take birth control any more than I care if somebody eats 5 Big Macs in a sitting but it is not really that good for your body.


On what basis do you claim that the Catholic Church has concerns about birth control and women's health?
I thought the argument was that we all have to be "open to life". God chooses if a sex act makes a child, not us.


Natural Family Planning is okay and that means choosing to try not to conceive naturally. So some "birth control" is okay. Unnatural forms of birth control are not okay. Besides if God wants you to get pregnant he will on the pill or not... just ask 4 of my friends... woops!
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2014 14:56     Subject: I am Catholic and thank God for my birth control
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is the catholic church the only christian faith that officially opposes birth control? what about abortion? Honest question. You always hear about the catholic position, but do all protestants sanction these practices?


If you only eat organic do you believe birth control is okay?


Wtf is this supposed to suggest? Do you have brain damage or jus a low iq?


As the PP pointed out, the Catholic Church is not the only group that thinks natural family planning is better for your body.

I don't care if somebody wants to take birth control any more than I care if somebody eats 5 Big Macs in a sitting but it is not really that good for your body.


On what basis do you claim that the Catholic Church has concerns about birth control and women's health?
I thought the argument was that we all have to be "open to life". God chooses if a sex act makes a child, not us.


How about God chooses who gets cancer so we should just let it run it's course.

Such medieval thinking. I knew of a woman in my hometown in the 1970s who died in childbirth, leaving 4 kids motherless; her doctor had told her she shouldn't get pregnant anymore because another pregnancy would kill her. Her priest told her she couldn't use artificial birth control, so she didn't. And of course she got pregnant. This is why people say the Catholic Church devalues women's health. If my doctor told me I shouldn't ever get pregnant again, I'd be scheduling my tubal ligation for the next day.


Urban legend. The Catholic Church does not support this no birth control if the mother's life could be in danger, just like it is okay to take birth control if you have endometriosis or you can take it for acne.

Anonymous
Post 01/27/2014 14:17     Subject: I am Catholic and thank God for my birth control
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is the catholic church the only christian faith that officially opposes birth control? what about abortion? Honest question. You always hear about the catholic position, but do all protestants sanction these practices?


If you only eat organic do you believe birth control is okay?


Wtf is this supposed to suggest? Do you have brain damage or jus a low iq?


As the PP pointed out, the Catholic Church is not the only group that thinks natural family planning is better for your body.

I don't care if somebody wants to take birth control any more than I care if somebody eats 5 Big Macs in a sitting but it is not really that good for your body.


On what basis do you claim that the Catholic Church has concerns about birth control and women's health?
I thought the argument was that we all have to be "open to life". God chooses if a sex act makes a child, not us.


How about God chooses who gets cancer so we should just let it run it's course.

Such medieval thinking. I knew of a woman in my hometown in the 1970s who died in childbirth, leaving 4 kids motherless; her doctor had told her she shouldn't get pregnant anymore because another pregnancy would kill her. Her priest told her she couldn't use artificial birth control, so she didn't. And of course she got pregnant. This is why people say the Catholic Church devalues women's health. If my doctor told me I shouldn't ever get pregnant again, I'd be scheduling my tubal ligation for the next day.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2014 14:03     Subject: I am Catholic and thank God for my birth control
You should thank Uncle Sugar for helping you deal with your libido.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2014 13:05     Subject: I am Catholic and thank God for my birth control
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is the catholic church the only christian faith that officially opposes birth control? what about abortion? Honest question. You always hear about the catholic position, but do all protestants sanction these practices?


If you only eat organic do you believe birth control is okay?


Wtf is this supposed to suggest? Do you have brain damage or jus a low iq?


As the PP pointed out, the Catholic Church is not the only group that thinks natural family planning is better for your body.

I don't care if somebody wants to take birth control any more than I care if somebody eats 5 Big Macs in a sitting but it is not really that good for your body.


On what basis do you claim that the Catholic Church has concerns about birth control and women's health?
I thought the argument was that we all have to be "open to life". God chooses if a sex act makes a child, not us.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2014 13:04     Subject: I am Catholic and thank God for my birth control
If fetal life is so important to God and Jesus, why did they spend little to no time talking about it in the Bible?

God is all-knowing so it's not like He didn't know about the coming science of abortion, birth control, etc. Right?
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 13:53     Subject: I am Catholic and thank God for my birth control
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is the catholic church the only christian faith that officially opposes birth control? what about abortion? Honest question. You always hear about the catholic position, but do all protestants sanction these practices?


If you only eat organic do you believe birth control is okay?


Wtf is this supposed to suggest? Do you have brain damage or jus a low iq?


As the PP pointed out, the Catholic Church is not the only group that thinks natural family planning is better for your body.

I don't care if somebody wants to take birth control any more than I care if somebody eats 5 Big Macs in a sitting but it is not really that good for your body.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 13:50     Subject: I am Catholic and thank God for my birth control
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is the catholic church the only christian faith that officially opposes birth control? what about abortion? Honest question. You always hear about the catholic position, but do all protestants sanction these practices?


If you only eat organic do you believe birth control is okay?


Wtf is this supposed to suggest? Do you have brain damage or jus a low iq?
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2014 13:36     Subject: I am Catholic and thank God for my birth control
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is the catholic church the only christian faith that officially opposes birth control? what about abortion? Honest question. You always hear about the catholic position, but do all protestants sanction these practices?


If you only eat organic do you believe birth control is okay?[/quote]

There is a sub-set of the crunchy moms who choose to avoid hormonal birth control because they are synthetic hormones.

FWIW - I am in the sorta-crunchy camp and I totally get it. My partner and I have been using Natural Family Planning successfully for 2 years. This was following a very early miscarraige while on the Nuvaring. We have a 6 YO and 4YO. I'm not sure it would have been as easy when I was post-partum and breastfeeding. But I am much more comfortable not having to put those synthetic hormones in my system.