jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote: "Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?"

Excellent reference.

+1

"Governor Gridlock"

The real Cake Boss of New Jersey is cooked.

Anonymous wrote:At the very, very least, Gov. Christie is a totally inept governor, totally blind concerning his head advisers, and sits on his ass for several days when major infrastructure is blocked for days.

This is an overstatement. He could also be a competent governor who did something bad because he was angry, or one who created a climate where he staff went farther than he would have wanted them to had he been consulted. It's not nearly as black and white as some of the posters here seem to think, although none of the possible scenarios are *good* for Christie, and he certainly should take some sort of hit for it.

Anonymous wrote: "Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?"

Excellent reference.

At the very, very least, Gov. Christie is a totally inept governor, totally blind concerning his head advisers, and sits on his ass for several days when major infrastructure is blocked for days.

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Anonymous wrote:

At least it's not a crime (hi, Mr. Spitzer, who is somehow being rehabiliated -- I hope you share my outrage at that, too, Mr. Steele.)

Actually, it is a crime. It's corruption. Using public utilities and public funding to carry out political revenge.

And the person responsible was fired. The end.

The level at which you take politicians at total face value is rather alarming.

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At least it's not a crime (hi, Mr. Spitzer, who is somehow being rehabiliated -- I hope you share my outrage at that, too, Mr. Steele.)

Actually, it is a crime. It's corruption. Using public utilities and public funding to carry out political revenge.

And the person responsible was fired. The end.

jsteele wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I am interested in watching " Morning Joe" this morning. Joe and Mika are deeply in love with Christie and do nothing but lavishly praise his every move. I wonder how they will cover this story.

Yes, excellent point. My money is that they will blame this on a rogue staffer and say he didn't know.

I don't think this defense will work in the eyes of the public.

The only "public" angry about this are a few drivers in NJ - and they are all Democrats (if they even vote at all).

Ask Iowa residents to identify NJ on a map( good luck).

Seriously, can you see Hillary bringing this up in a debate? She'd look petty.

Finally, how many high-level Christy team members have been fired over this situation compared to the number of firings (high level) over the ACA? Secret service scandals?

You, and possibly others, keep comparing Christie to Clinton. I assume that you are aware that there is something called the "primary" process? Christie will not make it past that stage. As I said earlier, the bat shit crazy Republicans who believe that intentionally causing traffic jams is an acceptable political tactic, won't vote for Christie for other reasons. The moderate Republicans that Christie needs will be turned off by this -- and can find New Jersey on a map. Christie doesn't have an "Iowa problem" -- he was never going to win there anyway. He has a "New Hampshire problem" -- and those voters definitely can find NJ on a map.

Realistically, Christie has a "weight" problem that likely disqualified him for national office in this telegenic age. He also has a "New Jersey republican" problem that likely made him unable to survive a national republican primary even before this incident. Still, I quite agree with you, Mr. Steele, it ain't good for him. And, if true, he deserves it not to be good for him. At a bare minimum, creating a climate where his staff might do this on their own is a problem, even if he didn't know precisely what was going on. Christie strikes me as smart enough to make sure that he didn't know, actually. "Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?"

At least it's not a crime (hi, Mr. Spitzer, who is somehow being rehabiliated -- I hope you share my outrage at that, too, Mr. Steele.)

Actually, it is a crime. It's corruption. Using public utilities and public funding to carry out political revenge.

If this happened--and it appears it did--there is not any excuse. However, anyone who travels that area knows that there are ALWAYS huge backups. We were caught there for a couple of hours in May. Regretted taking that route.

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Anonymous wrote:I am interested in watching " Morning Joe" this morning. Joe and Mika are deeply in love with Christie and do nothing but lavishly praise his every move. I wonder how they will cover this story.

Yes, excellent point. My money is that they will blame this on a rogue staffer and say he didn't know.

I don't think this defense will work in the eyes of the public.

The only "public" angry about this are a few drivers in NJ - and they are all Democrats (if they even vote at all).

Ask Iowa residents to identify NJ on a map( good luck).

Seriously, can you see Hillary bringing this up in a debate? She'd look petty.

Finally, how many high-level Christy team members have been fired over this situation compared to the number of firings (high level) over the ACA? Secret service scandals?

First of all, you are stupid to be so dismissive of Iowans. They are probably more likely to be able to identify NJ on a map than NJ residents are able to identify Iowa. Secondly, Christie will have a tough time in Iowa regardless of how this plays out. The past two winners of the Iowa caucus were Santorum in 2012 and Huckabee in 2008. They have as little in common with Chris Christie as possible. Finally, Hillary won't be debating Christie, other Republicans will be. He will not win the nomination.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am interested in watching " Morning Joe" this morning. Joe and Mika are deeply in love with Christie and do nothing but lavishly praise his every move. I wonder how they will cover this story.

Yes, excellent point. My money is that they will blame this on a rogue staffer and say he didn't know.

I don't think this defense will work in the eyes of the public.

The only "public" angry about this are a few drivers in NJ - and they are all Democrats (if they even vote at all).

Ask Iowa residents to identify NJ on a map( good luck).

Seriously, can you see Hillary bringing this up in a debate? She'd look petty.

Finally, how many high-level Christy team members have been fired over this situation compared to the number of firings (high level) over the ACA? Secret service scandals?

You, and possibly others, keep comparing Christie to Clinton. I assume that you are aware that there is something called the "primary" process? Christie will not make it past that stage. As I said earlier, the bat shit crazy Republicans who believe that intentionally causing traffic jams is an acceptable political tactic, won't vote for Christie for other reasons. The moderate Republicans that Christie needs will be turned off by this -- and can find New Jersey on a map. Christie doesn't have an "Iowa problem" -- he was never going to win there anyway. He has a "New Hampshire problem" -- and those voters definitely can find NJ on a map.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am interested in watching " Morning Joe" this morning. Joe and Mika are deeply in love with Christie and do nothing but lavishly praise his every move. I wonder how they will cover this story.

Yes, excellent point. My money is that they will blame this on a rogue staffer and say he didn't know.

I don't think this defense will work in the eyes of the public.

The only "public" angry about this are a few drivers in NJ - and they are all Democrats (if they even vote at all).

Ask Iowa residents to identify NJ on a map( good luck).

Seriously, can you see Hillary bringing this up in a debate? She'd look petty.

Finally, how many high-level Christy team members have been fired over this situation compared to the number of firings (high level) over the ACA? Secret service scandals?

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jsteele wrote:

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"What difference does it make!"

If the election is about cover-ups and scandals between CC and HRC, I think it's probably a draw. With the tie going to CC because of the strong taint incompetency that is oozing out of the Obama Admin that will stick to HRC like stink on a monkey.

At some point NJ D's are going to run out of using the big bad bully card they've been using.

Seriously? Kids are trapped on school buses for hours and the first thing that comes to your mind is BENGHAZI?

You have serious mental issues. You really need to get in touch with whatever is the source of your values because there is an obvious disconnect. Clinton has nothing to do with this. Christie will never make it out of a Republican primary. The lunatic fringe of the Republican party -- those like you -- will appreciate stranding kids as a political tactic. But, that bunch won't vote for Christie anyway because he likes Muslims and doesn't hate gays. The few sane Republicans that would support Christie will be turned off by this.

Stop the melodrama. The mayor was using the most obvious heart-strings example, where were kids from NJ being bused into NYC to? A field trip on the first week of school? I am intimately aware of this area, it sucks in general. And I didn't explicitly bring up the Big B, I'm simply pointing out that apples to apples, there isn't much there there, other than politics as usual and a rogue staffer who is probably cleaning out her desk.

The kids weren't going on a field trip. They were trying to get to school. The lane closures caused backups throughout the town. What evidence do you have that this was a "rogue staffer"? That's a presumption on your part.

Why would NJ kids go to school in NYC?

Apparently you are not well-informed about the circumstances of what happened. The kids were going to school in their own town. The lane closures caused traffic backups within Ft. Lee itself. Not only were kids trying to get to school delayed, but so were emergency responders. One man whose ambulance was delayed died.