Anonymous wrote:So my take away is that people are pissed off when rich people have addiction problems, because money can solve all of your problems OK. RIGHT.

And that getting addicted is a choice OK. RIGHT.

And I'm so perfect because I chose not to EVER try drugs or alcohol or caffeine or prescription drugs. OK. RIGHT.

Some of you really need to get out more.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm always torn when a celebrity dies of an overdose.

First and foremost, though I feel awful for those who actually knew and loved the person, and were a part of their lives.

We cannot even pretend to know what goes on in their personal lives. At some point though they chose to take drugs. Or drink. So many of them have resources that other addicts will never have.. and don't use them. That bugs me.

STOP already. We get it. Move on.

Umm.. first post on this topic. I come from a family with alcoholics and drug addicts like many others. Personally I have a tough time deciding which side of the fence I'm on. Empathy because they must be struggling, or pissed off because there are ways to be healthier but not much effort if any is given.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm always torn when a celebrity dies of an overdose.

First and foremost, though I feel awful for those who actually knew and loved the person, and were a part of their lives.

We cannot even pretend to know what goes on in their personal lives. At some point though they chose to take drugs. Or drink. So many of them have resources that other addicts will never have.. and don't use them. That bugs me.

STOP already. We get it. Move on.

Anonymous wrote:I'm always torn when a celebrity dies of an overdose.

First and foremost, though I feel awful for those who actually knew and loved the person, and were a part of their lives.

We cannot even pretend to know what goes on in their personal lives. At some point though they chose to take drugs. Or drink. So many of them have resources that other addicts will never have.. and don't use them. That bugs me.

Anonymous wrote:I don't disagree she had demons and some serious struggles that were not in the spotlight. But she had all the resources available to get help. Money, fans who would have encouraged and supported her, resources, the influence to be able to pull strings and get into the top rehab program, etc. She was a mom and now her poor kid is going to face so many demons because her mom wouldn't get clean.

Anonymous wrote:This is why we will never fully address mental health in this country because of the attitude that individual choice is the main driver in problems like addiction and other issues.

All of that aside, I enjoyed her music and voice and knew that this thread would go off the rails because everyone on here has of course made all the RIGHT choices in their lives and have overcome so much and are oh so perfect. But can't find any lesson, sympathy or compassion in the horrible situations others may find themselves in - especially for someone who gave so much enjoyment to others.

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if there was an untreated mental illness there?

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Anonymous wrote:This is why we will never fully address mental health in this country because of the attitude that individual choice is the main driver in problems like addiction and other issues.

All of that aside, I enjoyed her music and voice and knew that this thread would go off the rails because everyone on here has of course made all the RIGHT choices in their lives and have overcome so much and are oh so perfect. But can't find any lesson, sympathy or compassion in the horrible situations others may find themselves in - especially for someone who gave so much enjoyment to others.

I could be a addict. I don't know. I've never taken drugs to find out whether I'd ever become addicted. Easy!!

You are addicted to being a judgmental asshole. There is no cure.

So you are advocating experimental drug use? That seems odd. It's really not difficult to NOT take drugs. You just don't. I was being sincere - I really could be an addict. I really honestly don't know because I would never put myself in the position of finding out. There is free will here. Don't open doors you don't want to walk through. That's not being judgmental. That's just stating facts.

People with mental health issues are more likely to experiment because they are looking for something. They need something to "calm the madness" or "lift the depression" or a combination of the two. It often works but only in the short-term as addiction often follows.

It is called 'self-medicating'

Which is still a choice.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why we will never fully address mental health in this country because of the attitude that individual choice is the main driver in problems like addiction and other issues.

All of that aside, I enjoyed her music and voice and knew that this thread would go off the rails because everyone on here has of course made all the RIGHT choices in their lives and have overcome so much and are oh so perfect. But can't find any lesson, sympathy or compassion in the horrible situations others may find themselves in - especially for someone who gave so much enjoyment to others.

I could be a addict. I don't know. I've never taken drugs to find out whether I'd ever become addicted. Easy!!

You are addicted to being a judgmental asshole. There is no cure.

So you are advocating experimental drug use? That seems odd. It's really not difficult to NOT take drugs. You just don't. I was being sincere - I really could be an addict. I really honestly don't know because I would never put myself in the position of finding out. There is free will here. Don't open doors you don't want to walk through. That's not being judgmental. That's just stating facts.

People with mental health issues are more likely to experiment because they are looking for something. They need something to "calm the madness" or "lift the depression" or a combination of the two. It often works but only in the short-term as addiction often follows.

It is called 'self-medicating'

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Anonymous wrote:This is why we will never fully address mental health in this country because of the attitude that individual choice is the main driver in problems like addiction and other issues.

All of that aside, I enjoyed her music and voice and knew that this thread would go off the rails because everyone on here has of course made all the RIGHT choices in their lives and have overcome so much and are oh so perfect. But can't find any lesson, sympathy or compassion in the horrible situations others may find themselves in - especially for someone who gave so much enjoyment to others.

I could be a addict. I don't know. I've never taken drugs to find out whether I'd ever become addicted. Easy!!

You are addicted to being a judgmental asshole. There is no cure.

So you are advocating experimental drug use? That seems odd. It's really not difficult to NOT take drugs. You just don't. I was being sincere - I really could be an addict. I really honestly don't know because I would never put myself in the position of finding out. There is free will here. Don't open doors you don't want to walk through. That's not being judgmental. That's just stating facts.

People with mental health issues are more likely to experiment because they are looking for something. They need something to "calm the madness" or "lift the depression" or a combination of the two. It often works but only in the short-term as addiction often follows.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why we will never fully address mental health in this country because of the attitude that individual choice is the main driver in problems like addiction and other issues.

All of that aside, I enjoyed her music and voice and knew that this thread would go off the rails because everyone on here has of course made all the RIGHT choices in their lives and have overcome so much and are oh so perfect. But can't find any lesson, sympathy or compassion in the horrible situations others may find themselves in - especially for someone who gave so much enjoyment to others.

I could be a addict. I don't know. I've never taken drugs to find out whether I'd ever become addicted. Easy!!

You are addicted to being a judgmental asshole. There is no cure.

So you are advocating experimental drug use? That seems odd. It's really not difficult to NOT take drugs. You just don't. I was being sincere - I really could be an addict. I really honestly don't know because I would never put myself in the position of finding out. There is free will here. Don't open doors you don't want to walk through. That's not being judgmental. That's just stating facts.

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if there was an untreated mental illness there?

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if there was an untreated mental illness there?