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Just read the article below. My favorite quote: "A former roommate told the magazine GQ recently that Cruz preferred to study only with graduates of Harvard, Princeton, or Yale, dismissing the rest as “the minor Ivies.”The five-member study group included one member, Jeff Hinck, who attended Northwestern."


http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2013/11/10/ted-cruz-was-polarizing-figure-harvard-law-foreshadowing-his-partisan-profile-senate/gEUPs0iVgOyoidafkNe94H/story.html

Is this supposed to show that HYP graduates are better, or that Ted Cruz is a fool?

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Anonymous wrote:Just came across this but you are a fool if you think that current and past Harvard, Yale and Stanford law school students are not from HYP, lesser Ivies, Yale, Seven Sisters, Little Ivies, Duke, Georgetown. HBS, HLS and other elite grad programs take one third of the class from such schools. If you think you are going to get into those schools with your 3.8 from UMD or other state school you are delusional.

I had a 3.75 GPA from University of Vermont. 175 LSAT. Got in. Im white. No hooks. And no you dickhead - not delusional.

Jackass, please tell us how many other people from your school were from UV. Then tell us how many were from HYP and Stanford.

Missing the point... of course you have to be a good student. But I wasnt the valedictorian of Vermont. And there were lots of people from lots of different schools. Including STATE SCLS. Look at the list.

I am not saying that you can't get in coming from a state school. What I am saying is that the more qualified applicants are from the Ivies and other leading privates. HLS will always market several state school acceptees to give applicants from lesser schools a bit of hope but the reality is what is stated -- Most students will come from the top schools (Ivies, little Ivies, top privates and top publics). Also, to get in from a state school you need near perfect scores. You don't need perfect scores to get in from the Ivies.

Just read the article below. My favorite quote: "A former roommate told the magazine GQ recently that Cruz preferred to study only with graduates of Harvard, Princeton, or Yale, dismissing the rest as “the minor Ivies.”The five-member study group included one member, Jeff Hinck, who attended Northwestern."


http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2013/11/10/ted-cruz-was-polarizing-figure-harvard-law-foreshadowing-his-partisan-profile-senate/gEUPs0iVgOyoidafkNe94H/story.html

Amusing as it is, sometimes I wonder how many people on this forum are actual adults working in the real world of super high achieving Washington D.C. If you are -- look around you. Smart, successful people come in every variety, from every background, every type of school -- and in fact the one thing they generally have in common is their natural, organic, God-given excellence, which can't be instilled by a "Big 3" or the Ivy League or psychos mom debating Holton vs NCS. In other words, yes, getting into a better college is a stupid reason to go to a top private school. It's all about personal development. Which you can achieve just as easily at the University of Vermont.

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Anonymous wrote:Just came across this but you are a fool if you think that current and past Harvard, Yale and Stanford law school students are not from HYP, lesser Ivies, Yale, Seven Sisters, Little Ivies, Duke, Georgetown. HBS, HLS and other elite grad programs take one third of the class from such schools. If you think you are going to get into those schools with your 3.8 from UMD or other state school you are delusional.

I had a 3.75 GPA from University of Vermont. 175 LSAT. Got in. Im white. No hooks. And no you dickhead - not delusional.

Jackass, please tell us how many other people from your school were from UV. Then tell us how many were from HYP and Stanford.

Missing the point... of course you have to be a good student. But I wasnt the valedictorian of Vermont. And there were lots of people from lots of different schools. Including STATE SCHOOLS. Look at the list.

The worst boss in terms of work performance that I ever had a Harvard undergraduate education. He was very nice but wasn't very good at his job here. My husband is working with a recent Ivy League graduate and he is not a good performer either. Both my husband and I went to flagship state schools and are better performers.

I've also known people without college degrees or even lesser ones that have done better than us.

I guess OP what I am trying to say is that if you think that a Big 3 is a ticket to a better quality life, I think you are mistaken. Statistically, you are probably better off if you attended the Big Three and then Ivy but it is far from a sure thing.

Yeah, your 3.8 from UMD or whatever is fine as long as your LSAT score is high enough. The person posting above is delusional.

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Anonymous wrote:Just came across this but you are a fool if you think that current and past Harvard, Yale and Stanford law school students are not from HYP, lesser Ivies, Yale, Seven Sisters, Little Ivies, Duke, Georgetown. HBS, HLS and other elite grad programs take one third of the class from such schools. If you think you are going to get into those schools with your 3.8 from UMD or other state school you are delusional.

I had a 3.75 GPA from University of Vermont. 175 LSAT. Got in. Im white. No hooks. And no you dickhead - not delusional.

For law school admissions, LSAT is king. It was your 175 that got you in. I've seen it many times.

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Anonymous wrote:Just came across this but you are a fool if you think that current and past Harvard, Yale and Stanford law school students are not from HYP, lesser Ivies, Yale, Seven Sisters, Little Ivies, Duke, Georgetown. HBS, HLS and other elite grad programs take one third of the class from such schools. If you think you are going to get into those schools with your 3.8 from UMD or other state school you are delusional.

I had a 3.75 GPA from University of Vermont. 175 LSAT. Got in. Im white. No hooks. And no you dickhead - not delusional.

Jackass, please tell us how many other people from your school were from UV. Then tell us how many were from HYP and Stanford.

Anonymous wrote:I know a number of people who have attended Harvard or Yale law school recently. Some come from Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, etc. but they are just as likely to come from a flagship state school or a top SLAC. Mostly they are just smart people who are impressive.

And they are all unemployed lawyers now...

Anonymous wrote:Just came across this but you are a fool if you think that current and past Harvard, Yale and Stanford law school students are not from HYP, lesser Ivies, Yale, Seven Sisters, Little Ivies, Duke, Georgetown. HBS, HLS and other elite grad programs take one third of the class from such schools. If you think you are going to get into those schools with your 3.8 from UMD or other state school you are delusional.

I had a 3.75 GPA from University of Vermont. 175 LSAT. Got in. Im white. No hooks. And no you dickhead - not delusional.

Anonymous wrote:Unless PPs were on the small law review affirmative action committee the year Barack applied for law review, they do not know whether he got on because of his grades or the writing competition or affirmative action. The process then was not quite the same as what is quoted above from Wikipedia. Just so you know. Not sure what difference it makes now, anyway.

If you think the Law Review would put just anybody at the helm and risk their reputation, regardless of the reason? It is unfathomable for a place like Harvard. Honestly think they would besmirch their reputation? Amazing how many think these people at that school are fools, then and now.

Unless PPs were on the small law review affirmative action committee the year Barack applied for law review, they do not know whether he got on because of his grades or the writing competition or affirmative action. The process then was not quite the same as what is quoted above from Wikipedia. Just so you know. Not sure what difference it makes now, anyway.

Just came across this but you are a fool if you think that current and past Harvard, Yale and Stanford law school students are not from HYP, lesser Ivies, Yale, Seven Sisters, Little Ivies, Duke, Georgetown. HBS, HLS and other elite grad programs take one third of the class from such schools. If you think you are going to get into those schools with your 3.8 from UMD or other state school you are delusional.

Anonymous wrote:Nine presidential candidates who weren't great students. And most people rallied around them defining them as the best and the brightest to lead the country.......

http://mentalfloss.com/article/28826/9-presidential-candidates-who-werent-great-students

It's not about grades in most cases. Those who come from and have the gold make the rules. Ka-Ching!

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Anonymous wrote:I worry too.. but honestly, I'm not sure it makes that much of a difference. I graduated with a 1020 SAT and scored 520 on the GMAT. Husband scored similiarIy and we have income in the low 200's. I have family that were NMSFs. They have similiar income to us but more debt. I know we have to work harder but I don't think we have a substantially worse quality of life so maybe I shouldn't stress.

1020 SAT? Wow. You must have guessed at all the answers and filled in your name.

Yes it was the 1600 SAT.