Anonymous
Post 10/04/2013 13:54     Subject: Temporarily furloughing nanny? Strategies?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am not a nanny, nor have I ever had one. What you propose is terrible. You, of all people, should know how awful it is to suddenly lose your income. And yet you propose to yank the rug out from under your nanny, who probably has fewer resources than you?

You should have had some reasonable notice language in your contract, as someone mentioned upthread. If you would like her to keep working for you afterwards, I suggest you negotiate some sort of manageable compromise; i.e. reduced hours, an agreement to pay her back once you're back to work, etc. It sucks to pay for childcare that you're not using, but you need to treat her right. Nannies are not day laborers that you hire and fire daily based on your needs.


Let's be honest here. A nanny how is presumed to be on a lower compensation would have many more resources to fall back on than an employer who's income goes from let's say 300k to 80k.


So let me get this straight. You think your nanny should have more savings than a family that earns 300K a year?


If a nanny loses income going on unemployment and subsidized health insurance is a given without impacting her income stream.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2013 13:53     Subject: Temporarily furloughing nanny? Strategies?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, you can't afford to have a nanny. You can't. That's OK -- a lot of people can't. You just need to admit that you are not able to have a "staff" and make other accommodations.



Business 101, if money isn't coming in, you stop money from going out. Even if someone had reserve money to "afford staff" nothing says you need to pay them when your situation changes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment


No one is arguing the legality of this. What I'm saying is that your financial circumstances don't allow you to continuously employ house staff. That's OK. But you should find other arrangements.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2013 13:50     Subject: Temporarily furloughing nanny? Strategies?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am not a nanny, nor have I ever had one. What you propose is terrible. You, of all people, should know how awful it is to suddenly lose your income. And yet you propose to yank the rug out from under your nanny, who probably has fewer resources than you?

You should have had some reasonable notice language in your contract, as someone mentioned upthread. If you would like her to keep working for you afterwards, I suggest you negotiate some sort of manageable compromise; i.e. reduced hours, an agreement to pay her back once you're back to work, etc. It sucks to pay for childcare that you're not using, but you need to treat her right. Nannies are not day laborers that you hire and fire daily based on your needs.


Let's be honest here. A nanny how is presumed to be on a lower compensation would have many more resources to fall back on than an employer who's income goes from let's say 300k to 80k.


So let me get this straight. You think your nanny should have more savings than a family that earns 300K a year?
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2013 13:49     Subject: Temporarily furloughing nanny? Strategies?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am not a nanny, nor have I ever had one. What you propose is terrible. You, of all people, should know how awful it is to suddenly lose your income. And yet you propose to yank the rug out from under your nanny, who probably has fewer resources than you?

You should have had some reasonable notice language in your contract, as someone mentioned upthread. If you would like her to keep working for you afterwards, I suggest you negotiate some sort of manageable compromise; i.e. reduced hours, an agreement to pay her back once you're back to work, etc. It sucks to pay for childcare that you're not using, but you need to treat her right. Nannies are not day laborers that you hire and fire daily based on your needs.


Let's be honest here. A nanny how is presumed to be on a lower compensation would have many more resources to fall back on than an employer who's income goes from let's say 300k to 80k.


Sorry, I don't understand what you're saying. You think a nanny, who might make $40,000 a year, has more savings than a family who makes $300,000?
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2013 13:49     Subject: Temporarily furloughing nanny? Strategies?
Normal means compassionate, understanding and fair. OP is just an asshole, wonder how many nannies he/she will have to go through before the kids go to school. I'm guessing 'revolving door'.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2013 13:46     Subject: Temporarily furloughing nanny? Strategies?
Anonymous wrote:I am not a nanny, nor have I ever had one. What you propose is terrible. You, of all people, should know how awful it is to suddenly lose your income. And yet you propose to yank the rug out from under your nanny, who probably has fewer resources than you?

You should have had some reasonable notice language in your contract, as someone mentioned upthread. If you would like her to keep working for you afterwards, I suggest you negotiate some sort of manageable compromise; i.e. reduced hours, an agreement to pay her back once you're back to work, etc. It sucks to pay for childcare that you're not using, but you need to treat her right. Nannies are not day laborers that you hire and fire daily based on your needs.


Let's be honest here. A nanny how is presumed to be on a lower compensation would have many more resources to fall back on than an employer who's income goes from let's say 300k to 80k.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2013 13:45     Subject: Temporarily furloughing nanny? Strategies?
Anonymous wrote:^^ Hi OP! Actually you are the terrible one. Thankfully this will never happen to me because I've been with a normal family for 8 years. A family who values my contribution the the family.


"Normal" wtf does that mean. Do you mean rich?
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2013 13:44     Subject: Temporarily furloughing nanny? Strategies?
I am not a nanny, nor have I ever had one. What you propose is terrible. You, of all people, should know how awful it is to suddenly lose your income. And yet you propose to yank the rug out from under your nanny, who probably has fewer resources than you?

You should have had some reasonable notice language in your contract, as someone mentioned upthread. If you would like her to keep working for you afterwards, I suggest you negotiate some sort of manageable compromise; i.e. reduced hours, an agreement to pay her back once you're back to work, etc. It sucks to pay for childcare that you're not using, but you need to treat her right. Nannies are not day laborers that you hire and fire daily based on your needs.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2013 13:44     Subject: Temporarily furloughing nanny? Strategies?
That's right who cares about anyone except for themselves stick it to the rich government worker family or the corporation they should go bankrupt not me!!
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2013 13:41     Subject: Temporarily furloughing nanny? Strategies?
I'm always amazed when there is a discussion of shuffling nannies around that there is no mention/valuation of the impact on the kids to lose their familiar caregiver and start over with another one. Little kids become attached to their nannies, they don't understand that they are paid employees. If you furlough your nanny and she finds another job and you are not able to rehire her, you'll have to find a new nanny and your child will have to adjust to a new caregiver.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2013 13:41     Subject: Temporarily furloughing nanny? Strategies?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nanny here- If you furloughed me, I'd look for another job immediately. If I didn't find one, and you wanted me back I'd go work for you... Until I found another job. No nanny would put up with that, and you'll be the one who gets screwed in the end. Not her.


Terrible. After all the time the employer helped you out the one time in need and you disappear. You give nannies a bad name.


Nannies have bills to pay too. They need stability just like you. If you as a family can't provide her stable employment, the nanny is absolutely justified in finding another family that can.


BUT BUT BUT...shouldn't nannies have savings so they can survive if they lose their jobs?! I mean, if they can't survive for a little without a paycheck, they are obviously living above their means. Or does that only apply to their bosses? And no, I'm not an MB or DB.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2013 13:39     Subject: Temporarily furloughing nanny? Strategies?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nanny here- If you furloughed me, I'd look for another job immediately. If I didn't find one, and you wanted me back I'd go work for you... Until I found another job. No nanny would put up with that, and you'll be the one who gets screwed in the end. Not her.


Terrible. After all the time the employer helped you out the one time in need and you disappear. You give nannies a bad name.


Nannies have bills to pay too. They need stability just like you. If you as a family can't provide her stable employment, the nanny is absolutely justified in finding another family that can.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2013 13:38     Subject: Temporarily furloughing nanny? Strategies?
Anonymous wrote:I am sorry but I am going to stick up for OP here. He is trying to help the nanny out until the temporary situation resolves itself. What do you expect people to do? Companies cut people all the time without warning.


How is OP helping the nanny? The OP wants the nanny to stop working for her and then remain available to return to work when it is convenient for her.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2013 13:35     Subject: Temporarily furloughing nanny? Strategies?
^^ Hi OP! Actually you are the terrible one. Thankfully this will never happen to me because I've been with a normal family for 8 years. A family who values my contribution the the family.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2013 13:30     Subject: Temporarily furloughing nanny? Strategies?
Anonymous wrote:Nanny here- If you furloughed me, I'd look for another job immediately. If I didn't find one, and you wanted me back I'd go work for you... Until I found another job. No nanny would put up with that, and you'll be the one who gets screwed in the end. Not her.


Terrible. After all the time the employer helped you out the one time in need and you disappear. You give nannies a bad name.