Anonymous
09/23/2013 19:25
Subject: What happened to MCPS?????
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don't worry, Common Core will tank MoCo property values across the board so all that will be left are people who can't move. Then your utopia of everyone having the same and equal skills, discipline, work ethic and smarts will be realized.
You are aware that the Common Core is a NATIONAL program, aren't you? Well done Einstein!
Common Core is a group of standards K-12. It's not a program.
Systems create curriculum FRAMEWORKS around the standards. Standards are grouped by unit, and units can change from system to system, depending upon how experts (however you define an expert) view the standards.
Teachers create lessons based on the frameworks.
The standards are quite rigorous - much harder than the CLGs that drove testing in the past. So if the gap grows, it's due to the fact that 1) teachers are prepared to handle the CC standards and 2) they aren't given the time to figure them out.
They are to be used holistically, which means that literacy is a schoolwide effort - an area that's not handled solely by ELA teachers.
so much to learn, PPs . . .
I wish I could train you, but I don't have the time!
Anonymous
09/23/2013 19:21
Subject: What happened to MCPS?????
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Know that Bethesda/Potomac pays for MoCo, and MoCo pays for Maryland.
Speaking of Bethesda/Potomac -- OP, just in case you wondered: when people say the "W" schools are the best schools, what they really mean is that the "W" schools have the smallest percentages of poor brown people.
There are people of all colors in these W schools but they are not poor. You do know that poor and brown are not synonymous.
Signed, A well-off, professional brown person with kids in W schools getting a great education.
If you were really well off, you'd be able to live in your McMansion AND pay for private.
Anonymous
09/23/2013 19:13
Subject: What happened to MCPS?????
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don't worry, Common Core will tank MoCo property values across the board so all that will be left are people who can't move. Then your utopia of everyone having the same and equal skills, discipline, work ethic and smarts will be realized.
You are aware that the Common Core is a NATIONAL program, aren't you? Well done Einstein!
Hey Sherlock:
Implemented differently by each state or county, up to the locality and their needs to get act test scores up.
And guess what, huge MoCo has decided their needs aren't the GT kids, or the average kids, or the kids with actual families, it's the thousands of kids from low-skilled immigrants who don't speak English and live off benefits and cash jobs. Those get the extra teachers, the extra help, the teacher training, the lions share of the budget, the free breakfasts/lunches/weekend meal bags, etc. Those kids are what MoCo has deemed "low hanging fruit" to focus in to bring up test scores and school performance numbers. Everyone else can just coast along for the experiment, sorry if you're bored or not challenged.
Anonymous
09/23/2013 18:58
Subject: What happened to MCPS?????
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don't worry, Common Core will tank MoCo property values across the board so all that will be left are people who can't move. Then your utopia of everyone having the same and equal skills, discipline, work ethic and smarts will be realized.
You are aware that the Common Core is a NATIONAL program, aren't you? Well done Einstein!
Not in VA, just across the river for those who depend on MCPS to teach them and their kids geography.
Anonymous
09/23/2013 18:16
Subject: What happened to MCPS?????
Anonymous wrote:Don't worry, Common Core will tank MoCo property values across the board so all that will be left are people who can't move. Then your utopia of everyone having the same and equal skills, discipline, work ethic and smarts will be realized.
You are aware that the Common Core is a NATIONAL program, aren't you? Well done Einstein!
Anonymous
09/23/2013 17:40
Subject: What happened to MCPS?????
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Know that Bethesda/Potomac pays for MoCo, and MoCo pays for Maryland.
Speaking of Bethesda/Potomac -- OP, just in case you wondered: when people say the "W" schools are the best schools, what they really mean is that the "W" schools have the smallest percentages of poor brown people.
There are people of all colors in these W schools but they are not poor. You do know that poor and brown are not synonymous.
Signed, A well-off, professional brown person with kids in W schools getting a great education.
Furthermore, the poorly performing schools are driven by poorly performing students.
Using this logic the good schools are because of the students not the teacher or facility. Of course, this creates class warfare because the schools are separate based off of money.
Don't worry, Common Core will tank MoCo property values across the board so all that will be left are people who can't move. Then your utopia of everyone having the same and equal skills, discipline, work ethic and smarts will be realized.
Anonymous
09/23/2013 09:59
Subject: What happened to MCPS?????
Anonymous wrote:http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/math/math-curriculum-plan.aspx
MCPS says that the following math classes are under 2.0 in 2013-2014:
Kindergarten, Math 1, Math 2, Math 3, Math 4, Math 5, Algebra 1.
Math 6 and Geometry in 2014-2015, Math 7/IM and Algebra 2 in 2015-2016, Math 8 and Pre-calculus in 2016-2017.
Since Algebra 1 in 8th grade is on-grade-level math under 2.0, Algebra 1 should be (as the PP says) mostly a middle-school class.
Are they deviating from this schedule?
I guess Winston Churchill is along with the middle schools that feed there - according to the info. we received at Back to School Night. Algebra 1, Geometry, and Algebra 2 all fall into 2.0 this year at these schools. Perhaps our children are a subtest group.
Anonymous
09/23/2013 08:57
Subject: What happened to MCPS?????
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/math/math-curriculum-plan.aspx
MCPS says that the following math classes are under 2.0 in 2013-2014:
Kindergarten, Math 1, Math 2, Math 3, Math 4, Math 5, Algebra 1.
Math 6 and Geometry in 2014-2015, Math 7/IM and Algebra 2 in 2015-2016, Math 8 and Pre-calculus in 2016-2017.
Since Algebra 1 in 8th grade is on-grade-level math under 2.0, Algebra 1 should be (as the PP says) mostly a middle-school class.
Are they deviating from this schedule?
MCPS says that the following math classes are under 2.0 in 2013-2014:
Kindergarten, Math 1, Math 2, Math 3, Math 4, Math 5, Algebra 1.
Math 6 and Geometry in 2014-2015, Math 7/IM and Algebra 2 in 2015-2016, Math 8 and Pre-calculus in 2016-2017.
Since Algebra 1 in 8th grade is on-grade-level math under 2.0, Algebra 1 should be (as the PP says) mostly a middle-school class.
Are they deviating from this schedule?
Anonymous
09/23/2013 08:46
Subject: Re:What happened to MCPS?????
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well my kids are in W schools and I would say the education has gone from so so to bad. The class sizes are ridiculous (32 kids). The new report cards tell you nothing other than your kid meets low state standards. I have caught the staff giving out grades my kids didn't earn just to cover up problems. MSA test scores overall are falling. The teachers have not been trained or have the resources to implement 2.0 in the full capacity Starr proposes in all his propaganda pieces. Parents don't like 2.0 and when I have met with teachers one on one, they don't like it also. They just can't go on record to say what they really think because they fear retaliation. Not everyone dislikes change but of course, people hate change when it means going from a so so curriculum to an untested, unproven, bad curriculum.
If choosing between MD and VA, I would recommend VA hands down. Too many problems with MCPS right now.
I was referring to an elementary, a middle school, and a W high school. Report card problems relates to the elementary school. Giving out grades undeserved was at the elementary and high school. 2.0 problems are at the elementary, middle, and high school. 2.0 was introduced to all high school level math courses beginning this year even though the teachers don't have enough training nor the materials.
There's no 2.0 math at our W high school that I'm aware of and I have a student taking math.
You'd better check then. I have a child at a W school, and they are 2.0 across the board.
If you look at 2.0 it extended to Algebra 1 this year. But Algebra 1, under 2.0 and prior, is largely a middle school class. At least at our W school there are VERY few kids taking Algebra 1. Mine is in AP calc this year and the curriculum is exactly the same as last year, at least according to what the teacher said at back to school night. What W are you referring to? Watkins Mill? Wheaton?
2.0 was extended to Algebra 1, Geometry, and Algebra 2 across the county in middle school and high schools that teach these courses. That includes all W schools and non W schools.
Anonymous
09/22/2013 23:50
Subject: What happened to MCPS?????
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Know that Bethesda/Potomac pays for MoCo, and MoCo pays for Maryland.
Speaking of Bethesda/Potomac -- OP, just in case you wondered: when people say the "W" schools are the best schools, what they really mean is that the "W" schools have the smallest percentages of poor brown people.
There are people of all colors in these W schools but they are not poor. You do know that poor and brown are not synonymous.
Signed, A well-off, professional brown person with kids in W schools getting a great education.
Furthermore, the poorly performing schools are driven by poorly performing students.
Using this logic the good schools are because of the students not the teacher or facility. Of course, this creates class warfare because the schools are separate based off of money.
Anonymous
09/22/2013 22:38
Subject: Re:What happened to MCPS?????
I think if you have an average, typical student it is fine. Our experience with special ed was for the most part very negative.
Anonymous
09/22/2013 22:06
Subject: Re:What happened to MCPS?????
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well my kids are in W schools and I would say the education has gone from so so to bad. The class sizes are ridiculous (32 kids). The new report cards tell you nothing other than your kid meets low state standards. I have caught the staff giving out grades my kids didn't earn just to cover up problems. MSA test scores overall are falling. The teachers have not been trained or have the resources to implement 2.0 in the full capacity Starr proposes in all his propaganda pieces. Parents don't like 2.0 and when I have met with teachers one on one, they don't like it also. They just can't go on record to say what they really think because they fear retaliation. Not everyone dislikes change but of course, people hate change when it means going from a so so curriculum to an untested, unproven, bad curriculum.
If choosing between MD and VA, I would recommend VA hands down. Too many problems with MCPS right now.
Could not agree with you more and I am just north of the Ws. The implementation of 2.0 is classic failure. Kids do not get another chance. Starr is nothing but propaganda trying to get an administration appointment for spending all resources on the bottom 25% and taking our great county with him. So sad, parents wake up, the system stinks now.
Stinks to you, works for me.
Perfect, heck no!
Needs work in implementation, heck yea!
Solid, top notch education, yea bet!!!
2.0 is not going to doom anyone's kid to a life of failure.
I am soooo tired of hearing about teaching to the lowest denominator, give me a break!!
Anonymous
09/22/2013 20:42
Subject: Re:What happened to MCPS?????
Anonymous wrote:Well my kids are in W schools and I would say the education has gone from so so to bad. The class sizes are ridiculous (32 kids). The new report cards tell you nothing other than your kid meets low state standards. I have caught the staff giving out grades my kids didn't earn just to cover up problems. MSA test scores overall are falling. The teachers have not been trained or have the resources to implement 2.0 in the full capacity Starr proposes in all his propaganda pieces. Parents don't like 2.0 and when I have met with teachers one on one, they don't like it also. They just can't go on record to say what they really think because they fear retaliation. Not everyone dislikes change but of course, people hate change when it means going from a so so curriculum to an untested, unproven, bad curriculum.
If choosing between MD and VA, I would recommend VA hands down. Too many problems with MCPS right now.
Could not agree with you more and I am just north of the Ws. The implementation of 2.0 is classic failure. Kids do not get another chance. Starr is nothing but propaganda trying to get an administration appointment for spending all resources on the bottom 25% and taking our great county with him. So sad, parents wake up, the system stinks now.
Anonymous
09/22/2013 16:37
Subject: Re:What happened to MCPS?????
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well my kids are in W schools and I would say the education has gone from so so to bad. The class sizes are ridiculous (32 kids). The new report cards tell you nothing other than your kid meets low state standards. I have caught the staff giving out grades my kids didn't earn just to cover up problems. MSA test scores overall are falling. The teachers have not been trained or have the resources to implement 2.0 in the full capacity Starr proposes in all his propaganda pieces. Parents don't like 2.0 and when I have met with teachers one on one, they don't like it also. They just can't go on record to say what they really think because they fear retaliation. Not everyone dislikes change but of course, people hate change when it means going from a so so curriculum to an untested, unproven, bad curriculum.
If choosing between MD and VA, I would recommend VA hands down. Too many problems with MCPS right now.
I was referring to an elementary, a middle school, and a W high school. Report card problems relates to the elementary school. Giving out grades undeserved was at the elementary and high school. 2.0 problems are at the elementary, middle, and high school. 2.0 was introduced to all high school level math courses beginning this year even though the teachers don't have enough training nor the materials.
There's no 2.0 math at our W high school that I'm aware of and I have a student taking math.
You'd better check then. I have a child at a W school, and they are 2.0 across the board.
If you look at 2.0 it extended to Algebra 1 this year. But Algebra 1, under 2.0 and prior, is largely a middle school class. At least at our W school there are VERY few kids taking Algebra 1. Mine is in AP calc this year and the curriculum is exactly the same as last year, at least according to what the teacher said at back to school night. What W are you referring to? Watkins Mill? Wheaton?
Anonymous
09/22/2013 16:15
Subject: What happened to MCPS?????
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Know that Bethesda/Potomac pays for MoCo, and MoCo pays for Maryland.
Speaking of Bethesda/Potomac -- OP, just in case you wondered: when people say the "W" schools are the best schools, what they really mean is that the "W" schools have the smallest percentages of poor brown people.
There are people of all colors in these W schools but they are not poor. You do know that poor and brown are not synonymous.
Signed, A well-off, professional brown person with kids in W schools getting a great education.
+100000000
and I am a brown person whose kid is doing great at a non W school.
and yes people on this board do use the term "good" schools to mean few poor and people of color.