Anonymous wrote:There is no comparison between the birthers questioning Obama's birthplace and those questioning Cruz's eligibility to be POTUS. The facts regarding Cruz are clear. He was born in a foreign country to a mother who was an American citizen. The debate is an interpretation of what a "natural-born citizen" means. In Obama's case, the birthers were convinced that he and his family lied about the circumstances of his birth and in fact created a vast conspiracy of falsified records, a fake birth announcement in the Hawaii newspapers etc. The fact is, even if the birthers were correct about this crazy conspiracy, Obama would have been born in a foreign country to a mother who was an American citizen! Therefore, every birther who questioned Obama's legitmacy must also believe that Cruz is ineligible. But they will not.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I am very jealous of McCain's elitism. Like getting out of Hanoi Hilton right away. What was it? 7 years, broken bones and torture. Real elitist.

Hey pardon me for merely responding to the quite "they don't just name destroyers after anyone."

But is your next fake explanation that McCains heroism created a constitutional exception to the birther interpretation of the law?

Sorry but you are running out of plausible explanation for attacking Obamas citizenship but not anyone else's. personally I think you should jus admit partisanship before race is the only thing left.

You're talking to multiple people, stupid. Stop acting as if you're aware of your surroundings, you're clearly not.

It's funny how you think there's one token R on DCUM who's beating back all the genius level D's.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess the contrast between Cruz, of whom I am no big fan, and Obama is lost on you guys? Ted Cruz already released his birth certificate. It took Obama years to do this.

Now you can start your rant and call me a birther even though I've said nothing that would support that. I'm sure you left wingers won't disappoint.

The contrast that is lost on you is the difference between the time it took Obama to release his birth certificate and the time it took all previous presidents.

I won't call you a birther. But, I will identify you as someone who holds our first black president to a higher standard than previous presidents.

Wow. What a douchebag comment. You imply I am racist. What if I my bias is against anything to do with the number 44? That is just as random as saying I am biased against the president because he is black. What if I biased against him because he is half caucasion?

I think President Obama is awful for about a dozen reasons. Not one of those reasons has anything to do with his race. You don't know me, you ass. Don't put that crap on me when you have no idea about who I am. I guess it is unreasonable to expect a discussion to stay on topic here. Its because you are totally unwilling to moderate these discussion threads to keep them on a topic.

LOL. Did your little feelings get hurt? Okay, you tell me why Obama, alone of US presidents, needed to release his birth certificate?

Anonymous wrote:I was the poster who referred to the Hanoi Hilton. I am not, nor ever have been, a birther. I have never questioned O's citizenship-though I do question his policies and loyalties.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I am very jealous of McCain's elitism. Like getting out of Hanoi Hilton right away. What was it? 7 years, broken bones and torture. Real elitist.

Hey pardon me for merely responding to the quite "they don't just name destroyers after anyone."

But is your next fake explanation that McCains heroism created a constitutional exception to the birther interpretation of the law?

Sorry but you are running out of plausible explanation for attacking Obamas citizenship but not anyone else's. personally I think you should jus admit partisanship before race is the only thing left.

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I am very jealous of McCain's elitism. Like getting out of Hanoi Hilton right away. What was it? 7 years, broken bones and torture. Real elitist.

Anonymous wrote:Actually, his citizenship was questioned and investigated. He was born in a military hospital on US property.

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Anonymous wrote:Some had made a big deal in earlier campaigns that McCain was born in the Canal Zone and might not be eligible.

Where were they in 2008? Did he somehow become more "natural born" in the intervening time?
It seems like at a minimum they would have demanded public release of the birth certificate, just like for Obama.

Gee, it wouldn't have to do with the fact that his father and grandfather were four star admirals would it?

"Well Admiral, it looks like you're sons going to be classified as a Panamanian, that's ok with you, isn't it?"

They don't name destroyers after just anybody, they're what's known as 'water-walkers'.

Oh, if your dad is somebody big, then citizenship issues don't matter. Unless you are hispanic, in case this is how you get treated even if you are a decorated war veteran:
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?CategoryId=12395&ArticleId=658884

Thanks for reminding us that elitism still matters, and yet military service of latinos does not.