Since the conversation has veered a bit from the specific question OP asked (like most DCUM threads), I'd like to jump in to emphasize the point made by a few posters that it's a complex issue in which all of us are pro-life in the sense of wanting to welcome babies into a world so they can lead happy productive lives, and all of us are anti-abortion in that we would like to avoid situations where women feel the need for abortions.

But life confronts us with difficult situations at times, and there is probably no abstract position that gives the right answer in all cases. Except, I think, for one: there is no point in attacking each other over our differing perspectives, or even our differing terminology; that does nothing but exacerbate a complicated problem.

As I often do, I apologize for getting preachy about something that everyone surely knows. But I have a severe case of morning sickness (as it were) from reading a few of the unnecessarily bitchy postings on here.

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It's not "pro-life." It's "anti-abortion." Use the correct terminology.

I was going to post the same. OP they are "anti-choice."

Or "anti-woman." Take your pick.

Not at all. Just think of all the abortions that could have resulted in women with great potential for changing lives and making a difference in this world, if allowed to live.

On that logic, you could just as easily say "think of all the rapists, child abusers, murderers, serial killers, war criminals, etc. that have been prevented from doing harm in this world because of abortion."

Your negativity and pessimism are sad, but yes, one could view it that way.

That's life. Life isn't all fluffy rainbows and cute kittens. There is crime, poverty, illness (physical and mental). There are a whole host of challenges that exist in life, and I think it's up to women to make their own decisions about what's best in their circumstances. I don't pretend to know what's right or best for you and your life. I would hope that you would respect that for others. I'm sure you don't trust me to make your medical decisions for you, right? But if you're willing to let me take the reigns on your decisions, then I might be amenable to letting you do the same. It's only fair.

Anonymous wrote:Catholic. Pro-life/anti-abortion except in very limited circumstances such as mother's life in danger and incompatible with life scenarios. Very torn on the issues of rape and incest.

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Can I ask you a question (and in a very respectful way - I personally am pro-choice, but I see how reasonable people can disagree on this issue). You say abortion is ok if the mother's life is in danger. Where is that line exactly? Doctors have to be certain the mother will die? A 75% chance of death? 30%. And whose decision should it be? A panel of doctors? Your own ob? Some neutral third party? This is one of the reasons I am pro-choice. I have no idea how to answer those questions, so I want to allow a woman to make those decisions with her doctor (and her God, if applicable).

Pro-Life Catholic.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious.

It's not "pro-life." It's "anti-abortion." Use the correct terminology.

I was going to post the same. OP they are "anti-choice."

Or "anti-woman." Take your pick.

Not at all. Just think of all the abortions that could have resulted in women with great potential for changing lives and making a difference in this world, if allowed to live.

On that logic, you could just as easily say "think of all the rapists, child abusers, murderers, serial killers, war criminals, etc. that have been prevented from doing harm in this world because of abortion."

Your negativity and pessimism are sad, but yes, one could view it that way.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious.

It's not "pro-life." It's "anti-abortion." Use the correct terminology.

I was going to post the same. OP they are "anti-choice."

Or "anti-woman." Take your pick.

Not at all. Just think of all the abortions that could have resulted in women with great potential for changing lives and making a difference in this world, if allowed to live.

Wait, what? Women are carrying other women to term in their uteri?! When the hell did this start happening?!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious.

It's not "pro-life." It's "anti-abortion." Use the correct terminology.

I was going to post the same. OP they are "anti-choice."

Or "anti-woman." Take your pick.

Not at all. Just think of all the abortions that could have resulted in women with great potential for changing lives and making a difference in this world, if allowed to live.

On that logic, you could just as easily say "think of all the rapists, child abusers, murderers, serial killers, war criminals, etc. that have been prevented from doing harm in this world because of abortion."

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious.

It's not "pro-life." It's "anti-abortion." Use the correct terminology.

I was going to post the same. OP they are "anti-choice."

Or "anti-woman." Take your pick.

Not at all. Just think of all the abortions that could have resulted in women with great potential for changing lives and making a difference in this world, if allowed to live.

Again, you consider only the fetus. Kind of defines "anti-woman."

In your world, perhaps. The statement referred to the large number of women who might have made a difference, if allowed to live. That's not anti-woman.

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It's not "pro-life." It's "anti-abortion." Use the correct terminology.

I was going to post the same. OP they are "anti-choice."

There are many choices in life. In this case, I'm anti-abortion and pro-life.

In this context though, choice means one thing. I'm pro-choice and anti-abortion.

Great for you. In the discussion of abortion, many people prefer to only say pro-choice, without clarifying what they're pro-choice about.

Everyone knows what pro choice means with respect to abortion. There is no vagueness here.

Yes, because just saying pro choice makes it sounds less distasteful. Smart move.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious.

It's not "pro-life." It's "anti-abortion." Use the correct terminology.

I was going to post the same. OP they are "anti-choice."

There are many choices in life. In this case, I'm anti-abortion and pro-life.

In this context though, choice means one thing. I'm pro-choice and anti-abortion.

Great for you. In the discussion of abortion, many people prefer to only say pro-choice, without clarifying what they're pro-choice about.

Everyone knows what pro choice means with respect to abortion. There is no vagueness here.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious.

It's not "pro-life." It's "anti-abortion." Use the correct terminology.

I was going to post the same. OP they are "anti-choice."

Or "anti-woman." Take your pick.

Not at all. Just think of all the abortions that could have resulted in women with great potential for changing lives and making a difference in this world, if allowed to live.

Again, you consider only the fetus. Kind of defines "anti-woman."

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious.

It's not "pro-life." It's "anti-abortion." Use the correct terminology.

I was going to post the same. OP they are "anti-choice."

There are many choices in life. In this case, I'm anti-abortion and pro-life.

In this context though, choice means one thing. I'm pro-choice and anti-abortion.

Great for you. In the discussion of abortion, many people prefer to only say pro-choice, without clarifying what they're pro-choice about.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious.

It's not "pro-life." It's "anti-abortion." Use the correct terminology.

I was going to post the same. OP they are "anti-choice."

There are many choices in life. In this case, I'm anti-abortion and pro-life.

In this context though, choice means one thing. I'm pro-choice and anti-abortion.

I would guess that most of the nuns on the bus are seamlessly prolife- they would be antiwar, antideath penalty, anti taking away benefits for the economically challenged, AND antiabortion.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious.

It's not "pro-life." It's "anti-abortion." Use the correct terminology.

I was going to post the same. OP they are "anti-choice."

Or "anti-woman." Take your pick.

Not at all. Just think of all the abortions that could have resulted in women with great potential for changing lives and making a difference in this world, if allowed to live.