Anonymous
Post 07/07/2013 06:02     Subject: Would you make your DC go to a college you worked at because its free?
Anonymous wrote:Very few 18 yr olds have their own money. Is anyone saying that all students should get the same financial aid?

In the current system, children of affluent parents who refuse to support them at all are the biggest losers but how often does that happen?

Oh god, please tell me this is a joke! Really, rich kids are the biggest losers in the college tuition lottery? Come down to ward 7, where I teach. My affluent parents spent very little on our college. One went to West Point, one Tulane ROTC, one full ride to state school. Rich kids with no drive are their own problem.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2013 03:19     Subject: Would you make your DC go to a college you worked at because its free?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who knows what happens if an 18 year old "emancipates" himself? Would he get a better deal on his education loans/financial aid? What would happen to health insurance?

(Goddammit, this country's stupid lack of infrastructure to support its #1 resource (smart, healthy people) makes me effin' crazy.)

I know, my DH spent a year trying to do this for financial reasons at the private university we attended. They won't let you emancipate yourself for financial aid purposes until the age of 23. So maybe your snowflake could wait 5 years?


Wow. Appears you're right. From some random web site:

"Warning

The court order for emancipation must be in effect at the time of your financial aid application for you to be considered emancipated. In addition, if you were over the age of 18 at the time of the court's decision, you will be considered a dependent student for financial aid purposes, even if your parents are not supporting you.

Read more: http://www.ehow.com/about_7503790_can-college-financial-aid-emancipated.html#ixzz2YKM00ywG"


How incredibly stupid.


So, what's the other option? The Department of Ed pays for education for anyone whose parents say they don't want to pay? Why would anyone pay? How would that system be sustainable?

As a parent you have choices. You can support your child during college, or you can encourage your child to join the military or wait until they're 23 to get their degree, or to go part time while working full time and funding it themselves. For people who don't have the first choice, the government helps a little (by helping with the interest on student loans, and with Pell grants which pay a fraction of the cost of college) and some private schools with large endowments help a lot.


Sorry, crummy paste last time.

Again:

The student loan industry is a debacle. Here's something for you to read:
http://www.propublica.org/article/how-the-govt-is-saddling-parents-with-college-loans-they-cant-afford
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2013 03:18     Subject: Would you make your DC go to a college you worked at because its free?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who knows what happens if an 18 year old "emancipates" himself? Would he get a better deal on his education loans/financial aid? What would happen to health insurance?

(Goddammit, this country's stupid lack of infrastructure to support its #1 resource (smart, healthy people) makes me effin' crazy.)

I know, my DH spent a year trying to do this for financial reasons at the private university we attended. They won't let you emancipate yourself for financial aid purposes until the age of 23. So maybe your snowflake could wait 5 years?


Wow. Appears you're right. From some random web site:

"Warning

The court order for emancipation must be in effect at the time of your financial aid application for you to be considered emancipated. In addition, if you were over the age of 18 at the time of the court's decision, you will be considered a dependent student for financial aid purposes, even if your parents are not supporting you.

Read more: http://www.ehow.com/about_7503790_can-college-financial-aid-emancipated.html#ixzz2YKM00ywG"

The student loan industry is a debacle.

Here's something for you to read:
http://www.propublica.org/article/how-the-govt-is-saddling-parents-with-college-loans-they-cant-afford


How incredibly stupid.


So, what's the other option? The Department of Ed pays for education for anyone whose parents say they don't want to pay? Why would anyone pay? How would that system be sustainable?

As a parent you have choices. You can support your child during college, or you can encourage your child to join the military or wait until they're 23 to get their degree, or to go part time while working full time and funding it themselves. For people who don't have the first choice, the government helps a little (by helping with the interest on student loans, and with Pell grants which pay a fraction of the cost of college) and some private schools with large endowments help a lot.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2013 02:45     Subject: Would you make your DC go to a college you worked at because its free?
You bet I would! I have seen 'smart' 18 year olds make very stupid choices about college. At the time, picking a college seems like a huge choice. But it's not. It's just an undergrad degree. My parents told us that they would pay for a state school so we had our pick of about 5 fine public institutions. It saved as from doing something dumb and incurring tons of debt.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2013 01:31     Subject: Would you make your DC go to a college you worked at because its free?
Anonymous wrote:If you have enough money to send your kids to college and you don't, you are doing society a dis service. My dad is not loaded but refused to let me apply for merit or need based aid. He said that should be saved for people who really need it, and since he could afford to send me, it would be wrong to take up that money


Agree. I had a convo with someone who argued it was his right to take the money from scholarships and invest it. I told him it was wrong since his parents could afford to pay and the money was for people who didn't have those kinds of opportunities.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2013 01:25     Subject: Would you make your DC go to a college you worked at because its free?
If you have enough money to send your kids to college and you don't, you are doing society a dis service. My dad is not loaded but refused to let me apply for merit or need based aid. He said that should be saved for people who really need it, and since he could afford to send me, it would be wrong to take up that money
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2013 00:54     Subject: Would you make your DC go to a college you worked at because its free?
In this economy, it is a very good idea.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2013 00:50     Subject: Re:Would you make your DC go to a college you worked at because its free?
If the parents are going to select the college, why not choose the major also? STEM majors are good choices for future job prospects.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2013 00:43     Subject: Would you make your DC go to a college you worked at because its free?
I think it's pathetic that parents are forcing their 18 yr olds to go to school where the parents want them to. You had your college experience now back off and let them have theirs. Let them choose the courses and the schools. Help them research how to pay for it and if you can help, great, if not, ok, but it's their turn. When are you going to be done dictating? Let them start making their own decisions. Isn't chosing ES, MS, and HS enough for you?!
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2013 00:42     Subject: Would you make your DC go to a college you worked at because its free?
Very few 18 yr olds have their own money. Is anyone saying that all students should get the same financial aid?

In the current system, children of affluent parents who refuse to support them at all are the biggest losers but how often does that happen?
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2013 23:57     Subject: Re:Would you make your DC go to a college you worked at because its free?
It would be nice if the US provided a college education to everyone who wanted it like in some countries. But that would create other problems because then more people would have a degree and there would be a shake out of the marketplace to balance the haves and the have-nots.
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2013 23:48     Subject: Would you make your DC go to a college you worked at because its free?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who knows what happens if an 18 year old "emancipates" himself? Would he get a better deal on his education loans/financial aid? What would happen to health insurance?

(Goddammit, this country's stupid lack of infrastructure to support its #1 resource (smart, healthy people) makes me effin' crazy.)

I know, my DH spent a year trying to do this for financial reasons at the private university we attended. They won't let you emancipate yourself for financial aid purposes until the age of 23. So maybe your snowflake could wait 5 years?


Wow. Appears you're right. From some random web site:

"Warning

The court order for emancipation must be in effect at the time of your financial aid application for you to be considered emancipated. In addition, if you were over the age of 18 at the time of the court's decision, you will be considered a dependent student for financial aid purposes, even if your parents are not supporting you.

Read more: http://www.ehow.com/about_7503790_can-college-financial-aid-emancipated.html#ixzz2YKM00ywG"


How incredibly stupid.


So, what's the other option? The Department of Ed pays for education for anyone whose parents say they don't want to pay? Why would anyone pay? How would that system be sustainable?

As a parent you have choices. You can support your child during college, or you can encourage your child to join the military or wait until they're 23 to get their degree, or to go part time while working full time and funding it themselves. For people who don't have the first choice, the government helps a little (by helping with the interest on student loans, and with Pell grants which pay a fraction of the cost of college) and some private schools with large endowments help a lot.
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2013 23:43     Subject: Would you make your DC go to a college you worked at because its free?
^ Okay, parents. It's official. The Department of Ed considers you obliged to help your child pay for college.
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2013 23:43     Subject: Re:Would you make your DC go to a college you worked at because its free?
Anonymous wrote:For those who work at a college or university, don't forget that your child may not get into that school.


This. Know someone who, even with her very well-connected family and family status and money, couldn't get into a top school where her mom worked. Had to settle on a reject school. Didn't matter where she went to college though, with her family connections and money.
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2013 23:42     Subject: Would you make your DC go to a college you worked at because its free?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who knows what happens if an 18 year old "emancipates" himself? Would he get a better deal on his education loans/financial aid? What would happen to health insurance?

(Goddammit, this country's stupid lack of infrastructure to support its #1 resource (smart, healthy people) makes me effin' crazy.)

I know, my DH spent a year trying to do this for financial reasons at the private university we attended. They won't let you emancipate yourself for financial aid purposes until the age of 23. So maybe your snowflake could wait 5 years?


Wow. Appears you're right. From some random web site:

"Warning

The court order for emancipation must be in effect at the time of your financial aid application for you to be considered emancipated. In addition, if you were over the age of 18 at the time of the court's decision, you will be considered a dependent student for financial aid purposes, even if your parents are not supporting you.

Read more: http://www.ehow.com/about_7503790_can-college-financial-aid-emancipated.html#ixzz2YKM00ywG"

And another:

"The Department of Education has several criteria by which they evaluate whether a student may qualify to be considered independent. The age that a student automatically becomes independent in the eyes of the Department of Education is twenty-four. To the chagrin of most students who enter a four-year program at age eighteen, that means their financial aid eligibility will be determined by their parents’ income for the entire time they’re in college."

How incredibly stupid.