Anonymous wrote:You should take a second look at George Mason. It has a new dean (Cabrera) and is way more selective than either JMU or VT.

PP, you cannot possibly be serious. GMU is in every respect, without any exception, a long-term junior college compared to VT. And no, I didn't go to VT.

Anonymous wrote:You should take a second look at George Mason. It has a new dean (Cabrera) and is way more selective than either JMU or VT.

HAHAHAHA!

^^^ I noticed that Paul Ryan can organize his thoughts without a TelePrompTer . Maybe Obama should have gone to Miami !

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Anonymous wrote:Miami of Ohio

Miami grad here.

Um, no. But, thanks for playing. Lovely parting gifts for you at the door and all that.

Another Miami grad here. That was my response, too. The best state school in Ohio, I think, but it's no Berkeley or UVA. It did produce Paul Ryan, though

And there is the nail in the coffin of the argument that it belongs on the list!

The best ranking is the qs world university ranking. It is objective and only looks at results and product .

Anonymous wrote:In your mind (by definition subjective), which state colleges and universities do you consider to be prestigious. Michigan? UVA?

Rather than asking SAHMs from Fairfax what they think, why not consider some rankings? Here is a "Value for Money" ranking:

http://www.kiplinger.com/tool/college/T014-S001-kiplinger-s-best-values-in-public-colleges/index.php

Forbes ranks all 3,000 colleges in the US.

And of course there is US News as well.

Good luck!

You should take a second look at George Mason. It has a new dean (Cabrera) and is way more selective than either JMU or VT.

Schools from about the 2nd half of this list have accepted B/B+ students with 1200+ SAT (CR/M). Recent examples i know of: PSU, Pitt, Purdue, Ohio State, Clemson and CT.

Anonymous wrote:I think most of the top states schools that have been listed you need to be an A student with decent test scores.

or a heavily recruited athlete.

I think most of the top states schools that have been listed you need to be an A student with decent test scores.

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Anonymous wrote:Per US News: (in order) UC-Berkeley, UCLA, VA, Michigan, UNC, William and Mary, UC-Davis, UC-San Diego, UC-Santa Barbara, Wisconsin, Penn State, Illinois, UT-Austin, Washington, Florida, Ohio State, Maryland, University of Pittsburgh, CT, Georgia, Purdue, Texas A&M, Clemson

Is this also roughly the order of difficulty of getting in for an out of state student?

Getting into these schools from out of state has a lot to do with the percentage of out of state students allowed. For example, many years ago Michigan was exceeding 40 percent OOS. The state legislature stepped in and curbed OOS admissions to just 30 percent of total student body. I understand that within the last ten years, many state legislatures have been loosening these types of regulations as they have been cutting back on their financial support to public colleges and universities.

So which one of these schools is the "easiest" for an out of state student to get into these days?

I'm also curious what state schools are easier to get into than roughly comparable VA state schools (VT, JMU, VCU/GMU)?

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Anonymous wrote:Per US News: (in order) UC-Berkeley, UCLA, VA, Michigan, UNC, William and Mary, UC-Davis, UC-San Diego, UC-Santa Barbara, Wisconsin, Penn State, Illinois, UT-Austin, Washington, Florida, Ohio State, Maryland, University of Pittsburgh, CT, Georgia, Purdue, Texas A&M, Clemson

Is this also roughly the order of difficulty of getting in for an out of state student?

Getting into these schools from out of state has a lot to do with the percentage of out of state students allowed. For example, many years ago Michigan was exceeding 40 percent OOS. The state legislature stepped in and curbed OOS admissions to just 30 percent of total student body. I understand that within the last ten years, many state legislatures have been loosening these types of regulations as they have been cutting back on their financial support to public colleges and universities.

So which one of these schools is the "easiest" for an out of state student to get into these days?

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Anonymous wrote:Per US News: (in order) UC-Berkeley, UCLA, VA, Michigan, UNC, William and Mary, UC-Davis, UC-San Diego, UC-Santa Barbara, Wisconsin, Penn State, Illinois, UT-Austin, Washington, Florida, Ohio State, Maryland, University of Pittsburgh, CT, Georgia, Purdue, Texas A&M, Clemson

Is this also roughly the order of difficulty of getting in for an out of state student?

Getting into these schools from out of state has a lot to do with the percentage of out of state students allowed. For example, many years ago Michigan was exceeding 40 percent OOS. The state legislature stepped in and curbed OOS admissions to just 30 percent of total student body. I understand that within the last ten years, many state legislatures have been loosening these types of regulations as they have been cutting back on their financial support to public colleges and universities.

Also, these are all, with the exception of Wm&Mary, large universities with many different programs and schools, even at the undergraduate level. Admission to these various programs and schools may vary in difficulty; for example, it's much harder to get into Maryland's Honors College than it is to the regular undergrad program. Similarly, "prestige" varies widely among divisions at these universities. Another example, Maryland's undergrad computer science program is very highly regarded by employers; Maryland CS majors all have multiple job offers by the start of senior year.

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Anonymous wrote:Per US News: (in order) UC-Berkeley, UCLA, VA, Michigan, UNC, William and Mary, UC-Davis, UC-San Diego, UC-Santa Barbara, Wisconsin, Penn State, Illinois, UT-Austin, Washington, Florida, Ohio State, Maryland, University of Pittsburgh, CT, Georgia, Purdue, Texas A&M, Clemson

Is this also roughly the order of difficulty of getting in for an out of state student?

Getting into these schools from out of state has a lot to do with the percentage of out of state students allowed. For example, many years ago Michigan was exceeding 40 percent OOS. The state legislature stepped in and curbed OOS admissions to just 30 percent of total student body. I understand that within the last ten years, many state legislatures have been loosening these types of regulations as they have been cutting back on their financial support to public colleges and universities.

Anonymous wrote:Per US News: (in order) UC-Berkeley, UCLA, VA, Michigan, UNC, William and Mary, UC-Davis, UC-San Diego, UC-Santa Barbara, Wisconsin, Penn State, Illinois, UT-Austin, Washington, Florida, Ohio State, Maryland, University of Pittsburgh, CT, Georgia, Purdue, Texas A&M, Clemson

Is this also roughly the order of difficulty of getting in for an out of state student?