Anonymous
Post 06/18/2013 06:22     Subject: Re:How the East Coast is viewed by others
Anonymous wrote:Entrance to USC film school is very competitive. Much more difficult to get into that than the MBA, law, medical, engineering and music divisions.


does film school add value other than putting you in touch with movers and shakers? i.e, if you are an artist/visionary isn't it better just to keep shooting and making films? I don't think Chris Nolan went to film school.

Anonymous
Post 06/17/2013 23:12     Subject: Re:How the East Coast is viewed by others
Entrance to USC film school is very competitive. Much more difficult to get into that than the MBA, law, medical, engineering and music divisions.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2013 11:05     Subject: How the East Coast is viewed by others
There are decent IVY league engineering programs, but the best engineering programs on the East Coast are NOT Ivy League.

MIT
Carnegie Mellon
Georgia Tech
RPI

In the MidWest

Illinois
Michigan
Wisconsin
Purdue
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2013 10:50     Subject: Re:How the East Coast is viewed by others
Anonymous wrote:It isn't just California, people. I'd venture to say that maybe 4/5 of the country doesn't even realize there is this freakish obsession with ivy league education on the east coast (or, to be more accurate, the New York-Philadelphia-Washington corridor). I was a top notch student in another part of the country and it never even crossed my mind that I should be applying to the ivies. I didn't even know what they were, beyond some vague understanding that Harvard was a place for geniuses. The same educational obsession seems to continue into securing the right career path, working for the right investment banking or law firm, and so on. Life everywhere else is so much different. It seems to me that a lot of people who were born and raised and remain in this bubble have no idea. It can be so much simpler.


Again, I think the top college thing is new everywhere. 30 years ago, in a largish city somewhere on the East Coast, I was an NMS with parents who could (and did) pay for a private university. But nobody, from my parents to the high school's college counselor, suggested I apply to HYP. So I didn't, and instead I ended up going to a 2nd tier private college, and nobody cared, least of all me or my parents.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2013 10:13     Subject: How the East Coast is viewed by others
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:it's tougher to get into S now than H.

Also the author mentions having gone to HS in Socal.

I would venture to believe the attitude was somewhat different in Marin County or Cupertino High.


Harvard stlll accepts 10% fewer students than Stanford and Harvard's yield is 82% this year compared to Stanford's 76%. So tougher to get into Stanford? No. Does Stanford get more apps? Yes, so there is that. U.S. News strikes again.

As for East Coast/West Coast - lots of East Coast kids have never heard of Berkeley. Is that like Cal? Stanford has better name recognition because of sports, not academics. As for all the other UCs - hardly on anybody's radar at all.


My East Coast born and bred kids (2 in college and 1 in HS) and their pals definitely have Cal and UCLA on their radar; also, increasingly know of UCSD.


Well my two DCs at two different high schools had a grand total of two kids in their graduating private classes go to California. One to Stanford and one to some lesser UC. That's two kids out of 300. The schools sent more to Princeton than than all Cali schools combined. And I can't remember any Cal schools marketing to either kid although I do remember stuff from Arizona. The land of suntans, fake boobs, and casual attitudes just doesn't sell well around here.


Interesting, because at my DC's private, Stanford is the new "gotta go" school. Sure, there is interest in the Ivys, but California schools are making a move. Oh, and clearly you have never been to Palo Alto, Berkely or anyplace in Northern California - which I will take over DMV anytime.


It depends a bit on your major, too.

The schools at the top of my list for my kids are Cal Tech, Stanford, and UC Berkeley for engineering and UCLA and USC for film studies.

Cornell and MIT (duh!) have excellent engineering schools, but the rest of the name-brand east coast schools don't really compare.

I can't think of an Ivy that has a comparable film school. NYU is really the only comparable film school on the east coast.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2013 09:43     Subject: Re:How the East Coast is viewed by others
Anonymous wrote:It isn't just California, people. I'd venture to say that maybe 4/5 of the country doesn't even realize there is this freakish obsession with ivy league education on the east coast (or, to be more accurate, the New York-Philadelphia-Washington corridor). I was a top notch student in another part of the country and it never even crossed my mind that I should be applying to the ivies. I didn't even know what they were, beyond some vague understanding that Harvard was a place for geniuses. The same educational obsession seems to continue into securing the right career path, working for the right investment banking or law firm, and so on. Life everywhere else is so much different. It seems to me that a lot of people who were born and raised and remain in this bubble have no idea. It can be so much simpler.


have relatives in the PAC NW and 'top school' is supposedly big there as well (or has been for the last 4-5 years).
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2013 09:29     Subject: How the East Coast is viewed by others
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:it's tougher to get into S now than H.

Also the author mentions having gone to HS in Socal.

I would venture to believe the attitude was somewhat different in Marin County or Cupertino High.


Harvard stlll accepts 10% fewer students than Stanford and Harvard's yield is 82% this year compared to Stanford's 76%. So tougher to get into Stanford? No. Does Stanford get more apps? Yes, so there is that. U.S. News strikes again.

As for East Coast/West Coast - lots of East Coast kids have never heard of Berkeley. Is that like Cal? Stanford has better name recognition because of sports, not academics. As for all the other UCs - hardly on anybody's radar at all.


My East Coast born and bred kids (2 in college and 1 in HS) and their pals definitely have Cal and UCLA on their radar; also, increasingly know of UCSD.


Well my two DCs at two different high schools had a grand total of two kids in their graduating private classes go to California. One to Stanford and one to some lesser UC. That's two kids out of 300. The schools sent more to Princeton than than all Cali schools combined. And I can't remember any Cal schools marketing to either kid although I do remember stuff from Arizona. The land of suntans, fake boobs, and casual attitudes just doesn't sell well around here.


Interesting, because at my DC's private, Stanford is the new "gotta go" school. Sure, there is interest in the Ivys, but California schools are making a move. Oh, and clearly you have never been to Palo Alto, Berkely or anyplace in Northern California - which I will take over DMV anytime.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2013 09:14     Subject: How the East Coast is viewed by others
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No one growing up on the east coast desires to go to Cali for school...everyone on the west coast wants to come east. But why care? East coast coast reps hold up worldwide. Wes coast except Stanford and caltech are non-existent.


Pomona, some of the other Claremont colleges, Berkeley and Reed have some appeal. But in terms of sheer numbers, there are many more desirable schools on the East cost.


These are all great schools...but rarely do you hear east coast folks talk about how they REALLY WANT to go to Pomona..it just happens to be the option if you want a SLAC in LA. Whereas the NEw England SLACs are aspirational nationally.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2013 03:45     Subject: How the East Coast is viewed by others
Anonymous wrote:We need to have a throw down between the CA poster and the UMd poster. It could be epic. Who has the best state flagship U, CA or Maryland?


Not sure why you think there's only one CA poster here. And to the pp who thinks ALL Californians want to come out east, I never did. Graduated second in my hs class and attended UC. I cried when I was forced to move to DC. You are not the end all be all of hs students' aspirations.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2013 22:47     Subject: How the East Coast is viewed by others
Anonymous wrote:We need to have a throw down between the CA poster and the UMd poster. It could be epic. Who has the best state flagship U, CA or Maryland?


There is no comparison. CA all the way. UMd is not even in the same league as Cal and UCLA. Probably not even on the same level as UCSB, UCSD, UC Irvine and UC Davis.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2013 22:42     Subject: How the East Coast is viewed by others
We need to have a throw down between the CA poster and the UMd poster. It could be epic. Who has the best state flagship U, CA or Maryland?
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2013 21:12     Subject: Re:How the East Coast is viewed by others
It isn't just California, people. I'd venture to say that maybe 4/5 of the country doesn't even realize there is this freakish obsession with ivy league education on the east coast (or, to be more accurate, the New York-Philadelphia-Washington corridor). I was a top notch student in another part of the country and it never even crossed my mind that I should be applying to the ivies. I didn't even know what they were, beyond some vague understanding that Harvard was a place for geniuses. The same educational obsession seems to continue into securing the right career path, working for the right investment banking or law firm, and so on. Life everywhere else is so much different. It seems to me that a lot of people who were born and raised and remain in this bubble have no idea. It can be so much simpler.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2013 20:51     Subject: How the East Coast is viewed by others
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

California is definitely not for the pasty-faced, the tight-assed and the self-righteous. West coast-represent, now put your hands up, baby.


A wonderful testament. Really impressive


+1. The CA poster has got to be the most judgy poster here....
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2013 20:05     Subject: How the East Coast is viewed by others
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:it's tougher to get into S now than H.

Also the author mentions having gone to HS in Socal.

I would venture to believe the attitude was somewhat different in Marin County or Cupertino High.


Harvard stlll accepts 10% fewer students than Stanford and Harvard's yield is 82% this year compared to Stanford's 76%. So tougher to get into Stanford? No. Does Stanford get more apps? Yes, so there is that. U.S. News strikes again.

As for East Coast/West Coast - lots of East Coast kids have never heard of Berkeley. Is that like Cal? Stanford has better name recognition because of sports, not academics. As for all the other UCs - hardly on anybody's radar at all.


My East Coast born and bred kids (2 in college and 1 in HS) and their pals definitely have Cal and UCLA on their radar; also, increasingly know of UCSD.


Well my two DCs at two different high schools had a grand total of two kids in their graduating private classes go to California. One to Stanford and one to some lesser UC. That's two kids out of 300. The schools sent more to Princeton than than all Cali schools combined. And I can't remember any Cal schools marketing to either kid although I do remember stuff from Arizona. The land of suntans, fake boobs, and casual attitudes just doesn't sell well around here.


California is definitely not for the pasty-faced, the tight-assed and the self-righteous. West coast-represent, now put your hands up, baby.


This is hilarious!!! I love your post and couldn't agree more.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2013 20:04     Subject: How the East Coast is viewed by others
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:it's tougher to get into S now than H.

Also the author mentions having gone to HS in Socal.

I would venture to believe the attitude was somewhat different in Marin County or Cupertino High.


Harvard stlll accepts 10% fewer students than Stanford and Harvard's yield is 82% this year compared to Stanford's 76%. So tougher to get into Stanford? No. Does Stanford get more apps? Yes, so there is that. U.S. News strikes again.

As for East Coast/West Coast - lots of East Coast kids have never heard of Berkeley. Is that like Cal? Stanford has better name recognition because of sports, not academics. As for all the other UCs - hardly on anybody's radar at all.


My East Coast born and bred kids (2 in college and 1 in HS) and their pals definitely have Cal and UCLA on their radar; also, increasingly know of UCSD.


Well my two DCs at two different high schools had a grand total of two kids in their graduating private classes go to California. One to Stanford and one to some lesser UC. That's two kids out of 300. The schools sent more to Princeton than than all Cali schools combined. And I can't remember any Cal schools marketing to either kid although I do remember stuff from Arizona. The land of suntans, fake boobs, and casual attitudes just doesn't sell well around here.


California is definitely not for the pasty-faced, the tight-assed and the self-righteous. West coast-represent, now put your hands up, baby.


A wonderful testament. Really impressive