Anonymous
Post 06/14/2013 18:41     Subject: GT Letters came home today
My kid was not identified as GT in the screening. Does that mean she's an unlikely candidate for HGC? Her scores were mainly in the 70s with two scores in the 20s and 30s. I was surprised at how low her scores were compared with her school performance.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2013 17:23     Subject: Re:GT Letters came home today
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My DS got labeled as Gifted as he got awesome percentile in all five areas: 99,99,95,91,91. So, there are no disparity in the score and this test is not useless. I am happy he would not go through the basic instructions in Grade 3 that will save his lots of time in learning more advanced stuff.


Congratulations. In real life, just be aware that describing in detail how well you or your children did, without any modesty, puts people off because they interpret it as shameless bragging. FYI for next time.

I am proud of my son and i am very happy also. I don't care of the people who are just jealous because they didn't put enough efforts for their children to get succeed. They just blame the system for everything. My words for them "Wake up". My DS also get 95% percentile in John Hopkins test. If you think this is bragging, I'll laugh on you. If you really know how he got these, I'll be more than happy to share with you.


LOL!! Who let the republican congressman in here? Are you the same person who said that test scores have been dropping ever since women returned in droves to the workplace? I mean, honestly, I agree with you. I am at the root of my child's failure to get 80% on all of the tests. It's such a shame that she got stuck with such a deadbeat parent who is the root cause of her failure. you ever heard of nature vs. nurture, my friend? Maybe you are the cause of your child's 90+ percentile scores but I highly doubt it's just your working with him. The gene pool is pretty deep. so thank your and your husband's DNA and don't go disparaging parents who don't have all the time in the world to spend with their special snowflakes.

No parents are the reason for their children success and failure. But their guidance can make the difference. I am sure every parent put their best effort to get their dear ones to succeed and they love them as much as we are. The problem starts when they start blaming. Before my initial post, all the post were about the fairness of this test even though everyone believed it useless test that does not achieve anything. When I try to explain them through my DS score, they start label me bragger instead of finding the root cause of their children's failure. I don't mind if someone calls me bragger as i have something to brag about but i pity on those who are not willing to accept and understand where their children's are lacking.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2013 16:10     Subject: Re:GT Letters came home today
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My DS got labeled as Gifted as he got awesome percentile in all five areas: 99,99,95,91,91. So, there are no disparity in the score and this test is not useless. I am happy he would not go through the basic instructions in Grade 3 that will save his lots of time in learning more advanced stuff.


This made me chuckle. We're all like this! If my kid does well on the test, it's a good test ("and not useless") If our kid does poorly, it's a bad test. I like your pride in your kid, PP, though I hope you'd love him just as much if he were in the 60th percentile. And that he's happy and healthy too. Your later post made it sound like you felt like it was your own doing that he did so well. I'd just say to remember not to push too hard. I think it's important that kids are challenged at any age, but even more important than high scores is basic happiness and well-being. (I'm not saying we can't celebrate smarts as we do sports! In fact, I'd say the same thing to parents who were doing everything to make a kid excel at a sport. Don't forget the whole person.) It seems to me that the people who do best in life overall are not often those who had the highest scores as young kids.

I totally agree with you. The funny thing we don't push our child. If it were 60% percentile, we still celebrate his success as he is better than many kids. My later post was only meant to explain some people in this forum that they should not blame the system for anything that goes against them instead try to understand why it happens. I am sure all the kids are smart but right direction makes the difference that only can come from parents. I am not boasting that i am the greatest parent in this world but i am trying to be. My son has watched almost all the kids movies and has playing all the video games. He is also a good swimmer. We let him do whatever he wants but there are only few sessions in the week that he needs to listen to us and apply what we are telling.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2013 15:43     Subject: Re:GT Letters came home today
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My DS got labeled as Gifted as he got awesome percentile in all five areas: 99,99,95,91,91. So, there are no disparity in the score and this test is not useless. I am happy he would not go through the basic instructions in Grade 3 that will save his lots of time in learning more advanced stuff.


Congratulations. In real life, just be aware that describing in detail how well you or your children did, without any modesty, puts people off because they interpret it as shameless bragging. FYI for next time.

I am proud of my son and i am very happy also. I don't care of the people who are just jealous because they didn't put enough efforts for their children to get succeed. They just blame the system for everything. My words for them "Wake up". My DS also get 95% percentile in John Hopkins test. If you think this is bragging, I'll laugh on you. If you really know how he got these, I'll be more than happy to share with you.


LOL!! Who let the republican congressman in here? Are you the same person who said that test scores have been dropping ever since women returned in droves to the workplace? I mean, honestly, I agree with you. I am at the root of my child's failure to get 80% on all of the tests. It's such a shame that she got stuck with such a deadbeat parent who is the root cause of her failure. you ever heard of nature vs. nurture, my friend? Maybe you are the cause of your child's 90+ percentile scores but I highly doubt it's just your working with him. The gene pool is pretty deep. so thank your and your husband's DNA and don't go disparaging parents who don't have all the time in the world to spend with their special snowflakes.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2013 11:45     Subject: Re:GT Letters came home today
Anonymous wrote: they get tracked as the B or C students probably headed to a second or third tier state school to become education majors.


Your very reasonable point was undermined by the gratuitious swipe at teachers.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2013 11:44     Subject: Re:GT Letters came home today
Anonymous wrote:
It seems to me that the people who do best in life overall are not often those who had the highest scores as young kids.


I'm not sure where you are getting this data. There are instances such as sales where social IQ and the drive to make money enhance success far more than academic performance or IQ but in general kids with high scores do better in life. Interestingly, it is not always because they are smart. The kids that score better are treated as if they are smart and they believe that they are smart. They have better confidence which is more important than IQ. Kids that don't score well are not given extra help or motivated to work harder. They are accepted as less smart, expectations are lowered by teachers and they get tracked as the B or C students probably headed to a second or third tier state school to become education majors.


The horror! The horror!
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2013 11:28     Subject: Re:GT Letters came home today
It seems to me that the people who do best in life overall are not often those who had the highest scores as young kids.


I'm not sure where you are getting this data. There are instances such as sales where social IQ and the drive to make money enhance success far more than academic performance or IQ but in general kids with high scores do better in life. Interestingly, it is not always because they are smart. The kids that score better are treated as if they are smart and they believe that they are smart. They have better confidence which is more important than IQ. Kids that don't score well are not given extra help or motivated to work harder. They are accepted as less smart, expectations are lowered by teachers and they get tracked as the B or C students probably headed to a second or third tier state school to become education majors.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2013 11:26     Subject: GT Letters came home today
Anonymous wrote:I found the letter to be unclear on several things. DD's current instructional reading level is above grade level, and her verbal scores were in the 90s. But the recommendation for next year sounded confusing. It made it sound like she will be instructed on grade level, but also mention William and Mary and Junior Great Books. Do all 3rd graders get W&M and Jr Great Books instruction?


In our school, JGB is a pullout program, and for W&M the students switch classrooms for reading and one classroom teacher does the program.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2013 11:11     Subject: GT Letters came home today
Anonymous wrote:My kids Reading Instruction recommendation also recommend WM and Junior Great, but says "Leveled text above the marking period target...."

Our letter had nothing on math assesments other than the Inview results and recommendations.

Anyone ever have any luck getting the MAP-M scores from the school or the raw Inview results?

I am the one who posted asking about W&M earlier. DD's letter recommended it, but says "leveled text at the marking period target", even though she is currently working above that target and her verbal scores were in the 90s.
I imagine they reassess reading levels at the beginning of the year anyway, but it is confusing.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2013 11:01     Subject: GT Letters came home today
My kids Reading Instruction recommendation also recommend WM and Junior Great, but says "Leveled text above the marking period target...."

Our letter had nothing on math assesments other than the Inview results and recommendations.

Anyone ever have any luck getting the MAP-M scores from the school or the raw Inview results?
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2013 09:21     Subject: Re:GT Letters came home today
Anonymous wrote:My DS got labeled as Gifted as he got awesome percentile in all five areas: 99,99,95,91,91. So, there are no disparity in the score and this test is not useless. I am happy he would not go through the basic instructions in Grade 3 that will save his lots of time in learning more advanced stuff.


This made me chuckle. We're all like this! If my kid does well on the test, it's a good test ("and not useless") If our kid does poorly, it's a bad test. I like your pride in your kid, PP, though I hope you'd love him just as much if he were in the 60th percentile. And that he's happy and healthy too. Your later post made it sound like you felt like it was your own doing that he did so well. I'd just say to remember not to push too hard. I think it's important that kids are challenged at any age, but even more important than high scores is basic happiness and well-being. (I'm not saying we can't celebrate smarts as we do sports! In fact, I'd say the same thing to parents who were doing everything to make a kid excel at a sport. Don't forget the whole person.) It seems to me that the people who do best in life overall are not often those who had the highest scores as young kids.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2013 09:02     Subject: GT Letters came home today
As far as I know, William and Mary and Junior Great Books = GT.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2013 08:37     Subject: GT Letters came home today
I found the letter to be unclear on several things. DD's current instructional reading level is above grade level, and her verbal scores were in the 90s. But the recommendation for next year sounded confusing. It made it sound like she will be instructed on grade level, but also mention William and Mary and Junior Great Books. Do all 3rd graders get W&M and Jr Great Books instruction?
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2013 20:18     Subject: GT Letters came home today
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Some kids are getting chosen to do the compacted 4/5/6 math schedule. I think I read that it's 13% or so of the kids?


Yea, but that's 4th grade. 3rd graders are out of luck.

My 2nd grader got 99s and was recommended for the same, on grade level with enrichment.


Right; for some reason I thought we were talking about kids entering 4th next year.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2013 20:11     Subject: GT Letters came home today
Anonymous wrote:
Some kids are getting chosen to do the compacted 4/5/6 math schedule. I think I read that it's 13% or so of the kids?


Yea, but that's 4th grade. 3rd graders are out of luck.

My 2nd grader got 99s and was recommended for the same, on grade level with enrichment.